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FAA Concludes Southwest Airlines Safety Audit, Finds Nothing

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In July 2024, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)stepped up oversight of Southwest Airlines, after the airline hada series of close calls, mostly involving pilot error. Since then, the FAA has been auditing the airline to figure out if there are any areas for improvement, and the results are in

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(@Never In Doubt)
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Yes, but have the amateur safety experts in the OMAAT comments done the same?


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(@Tracy S)
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I personally suspect it's a confluence of all the factors you mentioned. Less seniority = more incidents in general, several incidents coincidentally happening in a relatively short time frame, and increased public awareness of incidents in general. Social media can substantially amplify that last, even if nothing tragic (or heroic) resulted from the incident.


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Diamond
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just because the FAA didn't find anything systemic at either UA or WN doesn't mean nothing significant happened.

It just means that the events are the result of individual actions rather than a systemic problem due to a lack of training and control regardless of whether it involves pilots or mechanics.

There undoubtedly were a few pilots at both WN and UA that were not following procedures but I suspect the investigations have made things alot safer and more standardized.


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(@SkepticalFlyer)
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I think you are missing the possibility that the FAA is an at best ineffectual or worst corrupt organization and remains in bed with Boeing and possibly its predominant clients as well.


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(@Eskimo)
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Of course FAA found nothing.

They didn't even find out what's wrong with the 737MAX until it's too late.


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(@SkepticalFlyer)
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Presumably this is less so that Southwest is a perfectly safe airline with a robust safety and reporting culture…and more so that the FAA is incompetent (at best) or corrupt (at worst). Time will tell.


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(@Chuck)
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Remember when delta landed on a taxiway? Why doesn’t the dunce talk about that?


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Diamond
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any person - intelligent or not - can figure out that something that happens once without a repeat is not reflective of any trend.

UA and WN both had multiple types of similar incidents.

and the FAA will review every airline at some point because that is what they do. They just accelerated UA and WN's reviews.


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(@Eric Schmidt)
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I might suggest the way to read this:

"The safety audit did not find systematic issues at Southwest that are not present at most other carriers as well, or common to operating norms."

Perhaps the string of recent incidents is simply an outlier roll of dice of typical risks that happened to land multiple times on Southwest this time, and might equally have happened at any other carrier had the roll been different.


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(@widerightv)
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The FAA knows that this report is at the tail end of a Failed Biden administration with a worthless former mayor (Pete) of a Quaint Indiana town that is only known for a college that happens to have a football team.
The signers of this report are saying "the heck with this, we looked, we saw, nothing to see here... keep moving on".
This is now the problem with the Trump administration. Lucky, look foward to seeing your future post on the s... [whoops] crap show that LUV will have sometime in the near future. And then we will hang that turd around Trump and (nominated Transportation Secretary) Sean Duffy's neck.


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(@CynicalAviator)
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Are we sure these rubber stamps for UA and WN reflect FAA incompetence or corruption as opposed to reassurance for American PAX?


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(@timothy_dunningham)
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@Chuck, how on earth is that related to the topic at hand?


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(@FlyerDon)
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If you want to see a more thorough report on the safety culture at Southwest go back to 2020 and read the findings of the DOT Inspector General’s 18 month audit of Southwest. The IG’s report was truly a harbinger of the incidents that have occurred since the report was issued. Now along comes a three or four month study from the FAA that says there is nothing to see here. Based on the IG report, and the recent FAA report, you really have to wonder how hard the FAA really looks at Southwest.


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(@Endre)
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Because the FAA must work overtime for SpaceX — wasn’t that the lame excuse the FAA made for not being able to get their work done?


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(@Chuck)
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Same as the dunce talking about delta every topic.


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(@Robert Fahr)
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Using your logic, the four, maybe five, incidents of stowaways this year on DL would be a trend.


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Diamond
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then we should be talking about the dead body that finally was found when UA arrived in Hawaii.
Could have been there for 2 flights.... which would be a trend... not adequately knowing who was on a UA flight for 2 flights would be a trend.


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then we should be talking about the dead body that finally was found when UA arrived in Hawaii.
Could have been there for 2 flights.... which would be a trend... not adequately knowing who was on a UA flight for 2 flights would be a trend.


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(@Robert Fahr)
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"Could have been there"
That has not been proven yet.... Of course you deflect from DL and the five documented stowaway incidents in 2024. That is a pattern.


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 Jum
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Look at you ignoring all the issues with Delta and whining that Southwest wasn't found to have systemic issues. Shocking.


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(@Layne)
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He is a Delta cuck. Always has been.


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(@Mason)
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Lmao, they're now mad about Tim Dunn being right?


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Diamond
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Please don't make him get off-topic, this was a sane comment for once.


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