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Singapore Airlines New York To Frankfurt Route Returns (Award Seats Available)

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With the United States lifting restrictions on vaccinated travelers as of early November 2021, Singapore Airlines will resume two additional fifth freedom flights to the United States. I first wrote about this a couple of days ago, but wanted to note that award seats have now been loaded, for anyone who wants to redeem miles…

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 Jody
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Joined: 13 years ago

Posts: 19

Looks like FRA-SIN is bookable on SQ25 (the NON-VTL flight). Not sure why JFK-FRA is not showing yet.


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 Alec
(@Alec)
Joined: 9 years ago

Posts: 120

So will they be having 3x daily flight to nyc? Direct to jfk and ewr and via fra to jfk?


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 Evan
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Joined: 12 years ago

Posts: 108

Ben, consistent with this theme, note that Emirates is upgrading its JFK-MXP fifth freedom route to the A380 effective 10-31.


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 R B
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Joined: 10 years ago

Posts: 282

is Singapore open to tourists? I have only heard about the "4 green lanes" for Germany, HK, Macau, Brunei.


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(@asprino)
Joined: 10 years ago

Posts: 54

SQ1/2 become SQ7/8? SIN-HKG-SFO has been the first transpacific flight for SQ and that's why SQ1/2


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 Dave
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SQ1/2 had a different schedule with SFO departure at midnight. SQ7/8 is more aligned with Cathay's suspended daytime flight.


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 DCS
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This explains why I saw a crew of pilots and flight attendants wearing Singapore Airlines uniforms in the lobby of a new hotel near me here in NYC. It seemed they were quarantined, but they were kind enough to let me take a photo them after I indicated that I'd been to SIN multiple times and could not wait to travel to there again...as a SQ KF Gold!


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(@Sam A)
Joined: 9 years ago

Posts: 46

Seems premature when you can’t enter Singapore yet and considering they have just increased restrictions seems like it’s a long way off before they will.


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(@david)
Joined: 8 years ago

Posts: 261

Haha "Personally I’m surprised to see this route restarting so quickly — most of Asia continues to remain closed to vaccinated Americans..."

This is parochial. This route opening is not for Americans to take discretionary trips to Asia.


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(@Adrian)
Joined: 14 years ago

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I am really surprised that SQ is restarting the HKG-SFO nonstop flight given US is on Hong Kong's high risk country list, which requires a 21 days hotel quarantine for HK residents returning from US, but I presume that there must be demands for lots of cargo. I honestly really like the timing of these flights. Too bad, SQ is no longer offering any printed menu and is "forced" by government to offer a simplified meal service now.

About NYC, I guess SQ will maintain double daily JFK flights for now. I wonder if Newark to SIN nonstop will return eventually but given this latest schedule, it might come sooner than we expect.


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 GTR
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Agree...the restrictions also have nothing to do with one's nationality but rather the location from which you are flying. I'm getting a little sick and tired with OMAAT and other similar travel sites constantly talking about "vaccinated Americans"...any American currently living in Germany can hop on the VTL flight to Singapore and enjoy a quarantine-free arrival.


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(@Anders)
Joined: 14 years ago

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SQ 26 FRA-JFK for next summer has been bookable for awhile. Starting on March 28, 2022, the FRA-JFK flight says it will be operated by A380 through the summer. Of course subject to change, but hopefully SQ will stick with that plan.


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(@Sam G)
Joined: 10 years ago

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They are restarting this (and other non-SIN flights) exactly for this reason - a way to capture passengers and cargo on routes where travel is open to keep the fleet profitably active


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(@invisible)
Joined: 5 years ago

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Wow, your article really helped me.

I had IST-SIN-SFO with 15 hours (!) connection in SIN. Now, if you are not familiar with the current Changi SOPs, all transit pax are treated like biohazards (well, except these arriving from NZ and China). They are met with the personnel in full PPE and quickly are herded into the 'detention box', AKA Transit Holding Area (THA).

Now imagine sitting there for 15 hours...

Once I saw this article, I immediately called and volla - now I have my flight going via HKG, detention time is just 2 hours and I will arrive at SFO 9 hours earlier.

Thanks again


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(@invisible)
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Any American can arrive in Singapore via VTL only if he/she is vaccinated either in Singapore or in Germany. 'Living' is a little bit broader category. Vaccination in any other country is not qualified for VTL flights.

P.S. Why would anyone come to Singapore right now for tourism purposes unless one wants to enjoy 'quarantine/lockdown tourism' is probably another subject...


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(@invisible)
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That's pretty much it. If you want to avoid quarantine. But even with VTL with Germany/Brunai, you must take 4 PCR tests - one before departure, one on arrival, and two more on days 3 and 7 which could all together cost >$700.

What is going here in Singapore at this moment you can read here
https://milelion.com/2021/09/25/phase-whatever-this-is-implications-for-travel-staycations-cruises-and-attractions/


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(@D3kingg)
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Would you rather fly Singapore First from FRA to JFK or Emirates First from MXP to JFK ? Both A380


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 MH
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Interesting to see the switch in both flight number and times (PM to AM) from SQ1/2 to SQ7/8. I presume it's to complement the daily non-stop SFO flight which departs SIN in the evening as well as providing a regular Y option as opposed to the ULR config SQ34/33.

MAN-IAH is bookable and on the schedule from Jan 2022, 3x weekly (as is non-stop SEA).


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Diamond
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Does anyone have any data points on First Class award space on the LAX to NRT flight? I was looking to go there in December, and while I know F award space on SQ has always been hard to come by, I am searching months at a time without seeing a single saver level seat. Do things open up close to departure? Or only when the schedule first opens?


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 Jody
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Joined: 13 years ago

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I had IAH-MAN booked in early December but it was canceled. They keep pushing it back.


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 LK
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Joined: 8 years ago

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One of these days we'll be able to fly it again! The best way to get to Europe from Texas.


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 SQ51
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Joined: 9 years ago

Posts: 70

The namesake for my username, they better bring it back soon...


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(@polarbear)
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The loss of cool SQ001 flight number is, still, sad...


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 Greg
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I'm puzzled by your comment at the start that this was the only A380 route to the USA. What about Etihad and Emirates pre-COVID too? Heck, even Lufthansa had A380 service to JFK.


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(@Evan C)
Joined: 5 years ago

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Lucky likely meant the only SQ US route to feature an a380


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(@JDawG)
Joined: 6 years ago

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Because food. Try to get a kaya toast or chili crab in the US. Or you know, to see loved ones who don't have as much vacation time to spend on going to Germany.


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(@Jason)
Joined: 10 years ago

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Hey Ben, I'm not sure A380's are going away for good. I'm considering a trip to Oktoberfest in 2022 (Here's hoping it doesn't get canceled, and with that, the date I want to go shows the airplane for the flight as the A380 instead of a 777. So, here's hoping things go according to plan!


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(@Victor)
Joined: 12 years ago

Posts: 18

Just booked two tickets today on the JFK-FRA route and they were indeed on the a380. Excited for my first 380 flight if it holds until June.


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(@54austin)
Joined: 14 years ago

Posts: 51

Somehow, my friends and I managed to get 4 saver level suites on the same flight. I reserved(*) two for me and my spouse when the scheduled opened. When I went to book two days later, I noticed the app still showing two saver-level suites, so I canceled my reserved seats and started a new reservation, selected seats and received email confirmation. I alerted my friend and he was able to book saver-level suites on the same flight. Still amazed that we are able to do this. Sadly, we may end up canceling, but if it happened once, maybe it can happen again. BTW, if you go through to the payment page of an award booking and stop there, the app automatically holds the tickets for you. Worked for me on two occasions while using the app. Not sure if same thing happens on the website.


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(@FabinhoBP)
Joined: 12 years ago

Posts: 61

Just booked 2 First Class seats roundtrip for September 2022 for a total of 344,000 points.
This is the old A380 Suites, but in my opinion they are still one the the best First Class Seats in the world. For longer flights (US to Asia/Middle East) the convenience of a shower is unmatchable but for a quick flight across the Atlantic this is pretty good.


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(@FabinhoBP)
Joined: 12 years ago

Posts: 61

My wife and I flew SG A380 1st class JFK/FRA and EK A380 1st class JFK/MXP, both on their “old suites”.
Singapore had better seats and slightly better food, both airlines had an amazing service and Emirates had the plus of Shower and Bar.
If you can fly any of their new “1st class suites” I would definitely go for it, but if it’s still the old ones, I would say they are pretty much even.


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 Dinh
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When flying JFK-FRA-SIN, do you have to deplane in FRA?


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