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Miami Wants Nonstop Flights To Asuncion, Riyadh, Singapore (Lol), Tokyo

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(@yoloswag420)
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I don't think Tokyo is that likely from AA.

But MIA could probably actually get Korean Air to ICN. KE actually has a pretty hefty US network and fly to many non-DL hubs like LAS, IAD, and DFW.


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 Anon
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It's kind of embarrassing that they highlighted Singapore as a route they're targeting, since it's neither possible nor economically viable. It suggests the MIA airport authority folks don't actually understand their industry very well!


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 Matt
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Totally possible as a one stop route. SIN-MAN-IAH was longer route.


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Diamond
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Singapore has many Direct flights that are not non-stop, Direct with 1 layover (e.g. LAX-SIN has a stop in TYO). So I'm unsure why MIA-SIN was rejected out of hand.


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(@Bob Chan)
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Its possible that Miami could replace Houston on Singapore Airlines old IAH-MAN-SIN route.


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 Matt
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I’m with you on that. It was such an emphatic NO. Chances of SIN happening in next 5 years are higher than chances of Riyadh happening in next 5.


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(@Eric Ji)
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I definitely think we'll eventually see MIA-TYO/ICN. Helps with South American-Asia connectivity


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(@Ricardo)
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Brazil, specifically the states of São Paulo and Paraná, is home to the largest Japanese diaspora in the world. There is also a large Brazilian-Japanese community living in Japan. Both JAL and VARIG maintained flights from São Paulo to Tokyo for decades, with a stopover at LAX. JAL later operated flights via JFK. Even VASP flew from GRU to Osaka and Seoul as well.
Clearly, there's a large market, but I don't think it's via Miami, but rather via LAX.


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(@Joe Jones)
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Japan-Brazil is difficult because one can logically connect almost anywhere in the world, and the US requires everyone to pass through immigration, which is at least a hassle and can make a US connection out of the question for many travelers. Europe was a popular connecting point before the Ukraine war; in the early 2010s I saw a bunch of people transferring between TAM and ANA at CDG. Nowadays most discerning business travelers would take QR or EK. Connecting in Mexico is also an option.


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(@WestCoastFlyer)
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The Brazil - Asia market now goes via the ME carriers. SAO has EK/Tk/QR amongst others. US transit is too complicated for Brazilian passport holders - visa required.


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(@Greg B)
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Avoid MIA at all costs! Everything is broken, nothing ever gets fixed, moving sidewalks don't work, escalators are broken for months on end. It discraceful that this airport is in the United States. It feels like you arrived in third world country.


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(@WestCoastFlyer)
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Most 3rd world airports are much better than MIA. Former South Floridian here.


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 RC
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Well, the USA is pretty much the 3rd world at this point...


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 Dan
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They’re working on it. Actually, they’ve fixed a lot. Get with the program.


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 Avi
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Miami is my home airport too and what an embarrassment it is. While these are interesting routes, Miami to South Asia would be an interesting proposition. The airport would need to be fixed from a disaster to a more modern and appealing airport.


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 Dan
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They’re working on. Follow MIA on their social media and you’ll see.


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(@Dusty)
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Can't really see a case for JAL wanting to expand to MIA. To my knowledge there's no real connection traffic angle since Chicago, Dallas, and CDMX provide great one-stop coverage, and I can't imagine there's much O/D demand for business or tourism either but I could be wrong on that one. Atlanta has a larger Japanese diaspora AFAIK, and Atlanta already has direct connections through Delta. United and American both offer a pittance of flights out of ATL, so not like either has much incentive to try to attract connection traffic there.


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(@Brian)
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I could see a MIA-ASU route done by Copa. They already go there from PTY, so adding a route directly from North America would make sense, especially since they already have a presence at MIA.


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(@Throwawayname)
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Their whole model is flying people via PTY, there's absolutely no chance of them starting to add off-hub routes.


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(@Andreas)
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Exactly, they have two and during season three daily flights ASU-PTY, with a lot of Paraguayan going to the Caribbean or Florida, New York etc. Thus, their hub in PTY is perfect to fill their planes out of ASU.


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(@Mikey b)
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Could definitely see ASU on AA within 5 years. Also Bolivia. The XLR is the perfect plane. AA just needs enough of them.


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 Xal
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Most of high paying customers move to Miami and Florida. I won't surprise if all New York routes will move to Miami in next 2 years. Its always follow money, which was reason of LAX, NY hub not the ease of flying


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(@yoloswag420)
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While NYC has stagnated a lot, Miami and Florida have a long way to go to catch up.

The Miami CSA is not even in the top 10 of the US lol. Less than 1/3 the population and GDP of NYC.


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(@yoloswag420)
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If anything Miami has a disproportionately small amount of money for its population.

It has 50% more population than the Seattle metro, yet a lower GDP.


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(@Speedbird)
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Republicans are under some sort of delusion that all the money is going to red states and cities when reality is showing the opposite. I listen to this daily at work from people making less money than the union workers they are the bosses of once you factor in hours worked


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(@yoloswag420)
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Correct. Even though Texans in Dallas or Houston might tout their population overtaking the SF Bay Area soon, they still have half of the SF Bay Area GDP


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(@WestCoastFlyer)
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Maybe Mayor Daniella could travel to Saudi, Japan and Singapore on taxpayer's dime to meet with stake holders.
She loves grift trips.


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Diamond
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Miami - Tokyo makes a lot of sense. It will happen. But, it might be ANA that takes the plunge first.

Miami - Hong Kong (via 5th freedom to YVR) is one that also makes a ton of sense. The JFK-HKG (via YVR) was fun... great CX service and you could just stay on the plane.


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 John
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There are no direct flights to Doha or Dubai, but there are non-stop flights.


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(@Terry)
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I used to occasionally fly AA #62 MIA-(DFW)-NRT, a thru flight. So, I always suspected the non-stop was aspirational for MIA if not AA.


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 Matt
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While I am not saying MIA-SIN is going to happen, I don’t think it is as less likely as you emphatically say. As a non stop maybe. However SIN does do fifth freedom routes. For example it used to do SIN-MAN-IAH, SIN-FRA-JFK so there is no reason it couldn’t do Miami. Particularly as South American connections are low from Asia.

However not a big Star airport so less likely. But certainly more likely than Sarasota to Yangon!!

Surprised Hong Kong doesn’t feature on the list because might have more chance attracting Cathay given oneworld traffic.


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(@Misco Jones)
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There is not going to be demand, if you don't create the environment for the demand. MIA-NRT is totally feasible and a great idea.


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 Matt
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I suspect the reason for the Airport asking for a lobby is because it is backed up by the data which is looking at current SIN-MIA traffic. Cargo volumes are also important. With SIN being a major cargo hub for Asia and MIA being for the Americas.


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(@Dr. D)
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Miami doesn't deserve anything in Asia without a one stop in DFW, LAX, or ORD. Simply put, a nonstop from Miami to any part of Asia, it takes away from the other connecting cities in the Midwest, Pacific North, and the Northeast. Those airports depend on the passenger's connection to Florida. It's the same in reverse if Seattle for example were to receive nonstop flights to Sao Paulo, where most of Seattle's passengers were connecting from Miami. And it doesn't matter how many Asians live in Miami or Florida, respect the law of the land. It's the same reason why Chicago only got Sao Paulo and Bogota, because anything else would make sense. Also about Chicago, it's in the Middle of the US, so it can take a little of everything but not a lot of one thing. South America, Miami can take a lot of one thing, and the same with Europe.


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 Dan
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Dumbest thing I’ve read in a while. Congratulations.


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(@Crystal)
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All international flights should go to Fort Lauderdale, not Miami. FLL is a superior airport and is only 20 minutes from Miami.

Miami should also consider direct flights to India, with Air India.
Direct flight to Abu Dhabi would be nice too, for people who prefer to fly Star Alliance.
Hong Kong, Beijing, or Shanghai, should be on the list too.


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(@ImmortalSynn)
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Why not Tatooine as well? Since you're just naming places regardless of actual demand.


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 Dan
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FLL is NOT superior. It is a landlocked, joke of an airport that only serves the purpose for domestic flights. MIA, has, and always will be, better than FLL.


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Diamond
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Given the state the US is in right now, asking Santa for a non-stop route from Miami to Singapore is actually one of the least crazy things that's happening so far this year. It wasn't on my bingo card for 2026 though. Just imagine an Airbus A321XLR without any payload and just a few enormous fuel tanks added. Let's make it happen! Or otherwise with a bit of payload and a fuel stop in Pyongyang. The possibilities are endless!


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