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Florida's Everglades Airport To Be Turned Into "Alligator Alcatraz"

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I’ve written in the past about the Dade-Collier Training and Transition Airport, which is located in the Everglades. Nowadays, it’s a small, nearly abandoned general aviation airport. However, the history of it is fascinating, as in 1968, there were plans for it to become the world’s biggest airport.

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(@lavanderialarry)
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America's worship of money and its culture of political theater and cruelty, knows no limits.


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 Jack
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Arbeit Macht Frei


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(@Leigh)
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Political theater and waste of taxpayer funds.

Wasn't the Grand Old Party about fiscal responsibility back in the days?


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 Tom
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Speaking of regime change, if it does happen, exactly how much will it cost to ensure a stable and peaceful new government is established? In an era of no foreign aid. MTG is right when she just said "bait and switch."


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Diamond
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The cruelty is the point.


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The funny thing about the airport... it could have been a huge success and a blueprint for future airports. It needed high speed rail to feed it. Make it 15-20 minutes from West Palm, Miami, Ft Lauderdale, Tampa/St. Pete, Naples, etc - and it would have worked. So many other areas could have replicated it. Looking at you Dallas... San Fran/Oakland/San Jose... etc.

Better weather, easily expandable,


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(@Dusty)
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>Uthmeier
Isn't this the clown that blatantly ignored a court order and got held in contempt for it? Something about directing state law enforcement to ignore a court stay and enforce an unconstitutional new state law?


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 Mike
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A tent city in one of the most active hurricane zones, what could possibly go wrong? As others have said, the cruelty is the point.


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(@George Romey)
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Don't commit crimes and you won't have to worry about being sent to such a facility. But as usual people seem to think the worst of criminals are heroes. Never a word about the victims.


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(@big al)
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no need to be cruel if illegal immigrants dont break the law right.


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(@Dusty)
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There's been quite a few innocents sent to these facilities in the past 4 months, but you lack the mental capacity to grapple with that. Nobody is against imprisoning actual violent criminals after those claims have convinced a jury in court of law, or deporting people who entered outside a port of entry and aren't trying to claim asylum. What people are against is picking up alleged "illegals" off the street and immediately sending them TO A FOREIGN PRISON without a trial. That's illegal, immoral, and un-American. Doesn't matter how they entered the country or what they're accused of.


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(@AeroB13a)
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An interesting thought has just popped into my brain cell …. how many of those who have posted in response to this article are actually Native Americans?
One suspects that Native Americans would be very pleased to see most, if not all, immigrants banished from their homeland …. perish the thought …. 🙂


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Diamond
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There are innocents sent to prison after trials wrongly convicted them. Such wrongs need to be corrected and avoided, but we don’t just shut down the criminal justice system. But go ahead and insult someone’s “mental capacity” who has a broader and deeper perspective than you. As for “no one” opposing rounding up illegal immigrants who have committed non-immigration crimes, watch and read the news as well social media; there certainly are people who oppose this (or more accurately, they oppose literally anything Trump does, now including backing IRAN).


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Diamond
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Umm, pretty sure they would take other measures when a hurricane actually threatens.


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Diamond
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Enforcing the law is cruel? Illogical. But “cruelty” is a common talking point.


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Seems like a good idea. You would think those who don’t want illegal immigrant sent to Honduran prisons would favor something like this, but, alas, no. And that exposes their true motives - oppose anything Trump does, now including backing IRAN.


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(@AndyS)
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GOOD!
I'm getting what I voted for. Deport all illegals.


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@AGrumpyOldMan_GA
If you agree that such wrongs need to be corrected and avoided, then why are you and George supporting the government making it easier to DO THE EXACT THING YOU ARE SAYING SHOULDN'T HAPPEN? Please, enlighten me. Because both you and Romey have backed the Trump admin's actions to put deportees IN PRISON indefinitely without any due process. Is your ability to question authority limited to when other team has power? Or just when that authority directly affects you?


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(@Christian)
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Gotta have some pen to store all the people grabbed off the street without due process. I’m surprised they didn’t just reactivate the Krome facility though.


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 Ross
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I think you mean Salvadorean prisons, not Honduran, but to some people I suppose they all look alike. The point is that it is being called a "temporary detention facility," which to me sounds like a way station before being shipped off to, let's say, South Sudan.

The US provides everyone 12 years of education and then expects some of them to spend the rest of their lives flipping burgers and making beds at Motel 6. The fact is, the economy would fall apart without immigrants, especially in the agriculture and manufacturing sector. Come back when your 401(k) has lost 20% and tell us what you think of negative population growth.


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(@Gavin)
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@Ross
We should be encouraging Americans to have children, not import third worlders with limited education for economic growth. Machines can do those menial tasks you mention...


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@Ross
I'm sure all the developed countries would love to hear your ideas on how to get people to have more kids, because lower birthrates are currently the endgame as people get more educated and economies more advanced. Personally, I don't think the GOP platform of "literally do The Handmaid's Tale" is a good idea.


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Do you realize just how much work is done in this country by illegals? Picking crops, construction and heavy manual labor, groundskeepers, janitors....


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(@Ethan Romans)
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I find it astounding that we, the people of Florida, put up with allowing the governor emergency powers based on a non-existent emergency like immigration. More authoritarian actions by the governor. Between the state legislature and the governor, they are ripping away authority from locally elected bodies and vesting themselves with more and more power.


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 Ross
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Show me the company that makes the machine that changes the bed at Motel 6, so I can invest my life savings in it. Unless someone first invents a machine that will watch children at the daycare centers needed for your fertility program.


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Most of us hate him. The state legislature hates him (for the most part). This is an ecological and humanitarian disaster waiting to happen.
We are powerless again these assholes, DeSantis and the AG Uthmeir ( under investigation for a number of things).


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They have activated Krome.


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you going to pick strawberries in Plant City ? Tomatoes in Imokalolee ? how about mowing lawns in Florida's tropical heat and doing roofing work ? washing dishes ?
you and people who think like you are profound idiots.


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we are powerless here


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 Gene
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I live year round in Naples about 30 or so miles north of where this will be. This is all politics specifically those of Mr. DeSantis having seen how cruelty worked for the orange Mussolini in the last Election thinking how well this will work for him when he runs for president again in 2024. There's just one problem. People don't like DeSantis. As a congressman in Washington prior to becoming governor he was ignored even by Republicans in the U.S. House. How truly and pathetically cruel a man he is. There is a very special place in hell for men like Ron DeSantis!


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Can you imagine how miserable it would be to live in a tent in the Everglades?? Probably shackled and guarded by fascists or wanna-be-fascists? Remember these people are mostly only guilty of civil violations. They're not criminals. Imagine being treated like that for your unpaid speeding tickets or customs violation.

But I'm not surprised the proto-fascists there (Florida's admin was as vocally fascist as Texas) are eager to grab some federal dollars. I hope that Miami-Dade county (blue, educated) puts up a fight about property ownership.


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(@It Just Keeps Getting Better)
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This is brilliant and I absolutely love it.

No more nonsense. No more child rapists, human traffickers, murderers, wife beaters, cartel members, or terrorists.

The adults are back in charge. FAFO.

I'll take WINNING for $1,000 Alex!


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(@airfarer)
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There's a simple way not to end up here, don't break any laws. Seems pretty easy. And if make sufficiently public, an excellent deterrent.


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(@RoadTrip)
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BradStPeye. You are exposing what the Democrat party has always been about: Having an underclass serve them. The Dems were the slave holders, then the Jim Crow law enforcers. Now, they are worried about their cheap labor to fulfill their needs. Shameful.


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(@RoadTrip)
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Oh, yeah. It's such a cruel country here. That must be why millions try (and many succeed) to sneak into the U.S.A. They must be masochists, right? Willfully sneaking into this "cruel" hellscape. I haven't noticed much of the reverse: Americans sneaking illegally into other countries to escape the cruelty here. Gee, I wonder why that is?


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(@AeroB13a)
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This topic, being political and U.S. centric is of course interesting to many readers; however, the only reasons this topic has been published is because the location is a disused airfield and it offers an opportunity for click-bait.


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(@Dusty)
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@RoadTrip
Strange, most of the businesses @BradStPete mentioned are run and owned by GOP voters. In reality, the Democratic party has wanted to reform the immigration system for a long time now to allow more people to enter legally through existing systems, because the green card quota is obviously not working. The Republican party DOESN'T want to reform the immigration system entirely because their base makes bank exploiting those illegal workers. Proof is in the pudding, Trump revoked the parole system (with much celebration from his base) set up by Biden that allowed Venezuelan, Cuban, Nicaraguan, and Haitian immigrants to enter the US and legally work, as long as they had a business sponsor or family connections here. Many of the people Stephen Miller is deporting are people who LEGALLY entered under that program and are now being told ex post facto that they're here illegally. Citing slavery to support your point just shows you don't actually know anything about the history of the country you supposedly inhabit.


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(@Dusty)
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My apologies @Ross, my reply was meant for @Gavin


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 LK
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The farmers, and the owners of meat packing plants and senior care facilities , etc, who employ undocumented workers are more likely Republican (and have been complaining to Trump about the roundups). You are exposing the stupidity of Republicans.


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(@Terry)
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lol . People complaining about tents being used . They are the same tents the military uses . They are not backyard tents . They are large tents that can accommodate hundreds of people and have A/C.


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(@Terry)
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They are the same tents the military uses . So you are saying the tents are good enough for our military but not illegal immigrants ? Also those tents have A/C . They are not like your backyard tents .


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 dz
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Are you dumb?


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