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What The Heck Is Going On With This Aeroflot Flight?

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Global aviation has been absolutely wild in the past couple of days, as airlines are dealing with new airspace restrictions. Russian airlines are most impacted, as countries around the globe impose sanctions against Russia.

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(@Icarus)
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Humanitarian most likely means repatriation of nationals. Hopefully more anti Putin rallies in Russia as he’s a loose cannon. Americans supporting him, as I saw the other day, would clearly accept Mexico taking back what’s there’s and sending their army over the border at San Ysidro into California

Slava Ukraini !


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A Russian registered Antonov AN124 - Volga Dnepr #VI5854 RA-82078 - arrived in Toronto from Anchorage early this morning. But it will not be departing anytime soon due to Canadian airspace restrictions prohibiting Russian aircraft. An exemption needs to be requested.

https://twitter.com/TomPodolec/status/1498070912465358848?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1498070912465358848|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https://www.blogto.com/city/2022/02/russian-plane-toronto-airport/


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@ Icarus -- Repatriation of Italian nationals? If so, I can't imagine a Russian state-owned airline would be "rescuing" people from Russia...


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(@Eskimo)
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I remember asking something similar to this scenario once.

Only my questions was more extreme as the only diversion is the destination.

Maybe next time Aeroflot might try that flying to ATH and keep circling over the Aegean until ATH is the only out of fuel landing site.


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It's not clear to me what happens with the passengers on board the flight. Can they transit through Istanbul or must they return to Moscow? Even though it's not logical, I could see the latter happening as Turkey was never their intended destination so pax weren't cleared to arrive there. But exceptions can be made. Obviously, it would make more sense to allow the passengers who could board connecting flights to Italy to do so. There are quite a few connections between Istanbul and various airports in Italy - even if Verona isn't necessarily one of them.


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(@Icarus)
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Sorry it wasn’t clear. Russian nationals if it’s a Russian flag carrier, however appears they didn’t have permission to operate. Otherwise how are Russians overseas expected to get home ? I imagine a fair amount are stranded now, however they can blame Putin.


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Diamond
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https://en.sun.mv/72921 Maldives cannot catch a break. Hopefully can catch a break from all the Russians storing their yachts there to prevent them being seized.


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 Jon
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I watched the plane land at Istanbul but instead of approaching the terminal it was sent to an apron with no disembarkment facilities. I am watching thing to see if it reappears!


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 MDA
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Not related but @ben are you aware of the story around the Antonov AN-225? It’s reported to have been destroy. Not sure if it is true.


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 Luke
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Haha trying to be sneaky. It violated EU airspace nevertheless, entering Greece briefly as per your screenshot.


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(@Joel Roossin)
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If a Russia flight tries to fly over a country where it is banned or needs to make an emergency landing in a country where it is banned to fly over or land, all Russia citizens on the plane should be jailed. They should know better to not get on any flight to a country that has banned them.


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(@Giovanna)
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There was no flight with Aeroflot registered to land at Verona today. And I haven't read anything about Italian nationals beeing brought home (flights that would have probably landed in Rome and not at Verona), nor have I heard anything of Russians beeing asked to go home.


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Diamond
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It’s possible there is some limited exemptions to allow Russian nationals to return home, with the inbound flights EU nationals and outbound Russian citizens.


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 Cleo
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Perhaps the pilots were seeking asylum? Regardless, all of this is quite strange.


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(@Valerie)
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Perhaps they will just take off without clearance like KLM 4805.


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(@Emily)
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Russia has been operating special flights to bring back support staff from its embassies and consulates. There has been confusion with these flights due to the ban, which cannot apply to the movement of diplomats and government officials.


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(@Raymond D)
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I was a Air traffic controller for 35 years in the US. Aeroflot (and others) has lied and tried to evade the rules and air space requirements frequently. The humanitarian excuse is invalid.


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(@Stuart)
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No one is stranded. You can still easily fly via IST or DXB to pretty much anywhere.


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(@Nicholas Peter Leavsley)
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They seem to do what they like they should do what the Russians would do if we entered there air space shoot it down


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 TG93
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Saw the Aeroflot plane at MLE yesterday when landing here.


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(@Tracey)
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Yes I was watching intrigued too, on my Flight Radar app. It came up as ‘ a flight of interest’
I couldn’t work out what on Earth they were doing... fuel was going to be a problem at some stage.
So who knows what happened from there once they landed? I’m surprised it didn’t make bigger news.


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 RJ
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Nordwind is operating a flight from Moscow to Cancun today. For passengers who enjoy long ocean views.


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 Geo
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How are they countries legally banning Russian civilian aircraft? ICAO First Freedom of the Air regulations?


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(@Don MIMS)
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Confiscate it and sell give proceeds to Ukraine for food


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(@warren trout)
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ICAO does not give such rights


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(@Scotty)
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Who would want to return to Russia anyway?


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(@Slarty)
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Why so many private jets flying into and out of Russia, and through closed European airspace?


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 Anne
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“Special” passengers??


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(@Adrienne Kraft)
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The Russian government is a majority owner of the Aeroflot, so it is not a civilian airlines.


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(@Lewis)
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Has anyone noticed if the passengers are leaving there on other airlines trying to end run sanctions or is there plenty of people in place to keep that from happening..I know that would be the logical thing to do but I also understand that is alot of people to keep up with...do airlines self police there selves or are government agencies handling this?? thanks..I am curious about that..


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(@Lewis)
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Just a question about that.. can they consider military people government officials?? I'm trying to learn as much as I can on this stuff.. thanks


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(@Lewis)
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That was my question but doesn't that make that an endgame around the sanctions??


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 Ryan
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The airplane is probably leased to Aeroflot by Irish airplane lessor AerCap. The Irish company owns about $2.5 billion flying in Russia (149 airplanes) and have terminated the leases and are recalling the aircraft.


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 Jade
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Unfortunately Mirya it's been destroyed by Russian , on the 2 or 3rd day of invasion. Was on polish tvn.tv chanel.


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(@C Gonz)
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México had opened it's space to Russia, I read that yesterday


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 Len
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On the evening of March 9, Aeroflot flight SU159, an Airbus A350-900, tail number VQ-BFY departed Cancun, Mexico for Moscow. It is currently over the North Atlantic after taking a circuitous route that took it east over Cuba, then a sharp northward turn before it would have entered US airspace over Puerto Rico. The projected route (FlightRadar24) shows it arcing over Scandinavia, crossing Norwegian, Swedish, and Finnish airspace before crossing over into Russia. We will see in about 3 hours or so if it changes course and arcs north or Scandinavia and approaches Moscow from the north.


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