I’m not sure whether to be surprised by this move or not…
Continue reading: Vueling Modernizing Fleet With Boeing 737 MAXs, Replacing Airbus A320s
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My hunch is something to do with the trade deals and threat of tariffs otherwise.
Trump might just be the best salesman for Boeing thesedays.
The forst comment is someone posing as me thinking they are being funny.
I don’t expect Lucky to out them, but he can tell via email/IP address who is making these wretched comments.
Iberia is receiving ex-VY A320Neo and will keep receiving a few of them in the coming years. If there are any remaining AC after this, they could go to BA/EI as VY transitions to 737s
I wonder whether this decision should be reviewed through the lens of which IAG brands will fly the A321LR and A321XLR. i.e. Vueling will likely never fly the A321XLR, so it may have more flexibility to move to a Boeing or mixed fleet. Whereas Iberia, Aer Lingus and potentially Level will fly the A321XLR and hence are less able to absorb 737s into the fleet without creating inefficiency. (A321XLRs would be ideal for Level flying out of BCN?)
Re the comments about coercion and trade deals - those are potentially more relevant to IAG's decision that the 787s should have a mix of GE and RR engines, with BA specifically opting for the GE engine. Admittedly, there is a benefit for BA in that the GE engines can be maintained at the GE facility in South Wales, but equally they could be maintained by RR in the UK.
One was hardly likely to set a foot inside any Vueling aircraft before, now with the forthcoming Boeing Max order one definitely never will do so.
If it’s Boeing (MAX) I ain’t going!
Afterthought …. The current American administration is becoming as toxic as the EU political parliamentarians and the weak, woke labour political loons who ’U-turn’ daily.
Maybe I am paranoid, but I have been steadfast in avoiding MAXs ever since the crashes in 2018/2019. I know corporate America, and this product is just so emblematic of that. I don’t trust it it can ever be made a safe plane to fly.
I'm not sure why you describe VY as a ULCC when it's much more like easyJet than Ryanair.
I am pleased that the 737s aren't coming to British Airways, who retired their last 737s years ago, at LHR or LGW. That would have been a retrograde step.
This is not very surprising really. Lufthansa also got a great deal on the 40 737 Max 8s they ordered (some say they were almost free) and these will be going to Eurowings operating alongside the Airbus fleet.
Ryanair also operates a 26 strong Airbus fleet based in Vienna.
Of course they will..for a low-cost airline. The list-price of a 737Max is about $2M cheaper than that of an Airbus A320. (Not much, but it all adds-up) However, I still feel the quality, 'feel' and science behind an Airbus, is better than that of a Boeing. IMHO.
They're barely a low-cost carrier, let alone ultra low. easyJet don't sell through tickets and they certainly don't have a bunch of codeshares on their routes!
I am guessing all of these Boeing haters have not flown the Max and no nothing about it's performance. Ignorance is bliss.
How do airline retrain their pilots to transition from the A320 to B737? Or do they just hire new pilots?
They aren't based in Vienna anymore. They're based in Malta. Keep up to date. Niki Lauda's dead, you know.
Of course, you only fly Delta, Tim, so you're not going to encounter a MAX. I, on the other hand, have flown many MAXes and a few Airpus 321s that UA foolishly bought, and prefer the MAX in every way.
I've flown on Vueling just once on a short haul from Bilbao to CDG. It was one of those situations where I was on an airline in a place in the world where if I had spoken to the right people or been otherwise but deeply indoctrinated from infancy, I would have understood the Spanish Civil War and the cultural and social consequences, or for that matter had an idea about why a Catholic man like Hemingway probably made a rational decision to commit suicide.
I pronounce Vueling. Basque country and Valencia - that is going to be their airline in Spain. Does their rating suffer due to relatively few on time arrivals?
You poor darlink ORD ….. how unfortunate.
Quite frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
Clearly personal safety is more important to some than others. Those who burry their heads in the sand are the one’s who are blissfully ignorant, yes?
The Boeing engineering design and production faults are well documented. As is the $ driven ethos of the management team.
The U.S. commercial airline passengers have been subjected to the Boeing propaganda machine for decades, swallowing every drop of toxic rhetoric.
Wake up and smell the coffee Lack of Brains.
Those who “Lack Brains” are clearly content to live with their heads buried in the sand. They have no sense of self preservation.
It is well documented that Boeing design, engineering and production faults pervade the manufacturing of Boeing aircraft. That the $ rules the ethos of the management team and not human the preservation of human life.
Look no further than the MAX or the 777X for such proof.
Fly the MAX at your peril Lack of Brains …. poor darlink.
The Decision by BA to select the GE engine is simple: the T1000 engine is not performing, and forces BA (and all other B787 T1000 operators, for that matter) to ground aircraft (not as bad as A320neo/A220/E2 GTF powered aircraft, but still).
The 737MAX order came way before the tariff/trade deal saga and was probably heavily discounted because part of the deal was a component maintenance deal for IAG A320 fleet(s) attributed to BGS (which was at the time a major score for BGS and part of their strategy to become a $50bn business)