Virgin Atlantic sent a pretty clear message to Qatar today, with the aircraft it decided to operate to Doha.
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Thankfully though they’ve dropped the gender neutral uniforms for the crew on this flight to Qatar. As they should - respect for local cultures and customs trumps all.
And yet they have suspended their 'gender neutral' staff uniforms on this flight. Pathetic. Isn't this kind of flight what the whole gender neutral uniform should be about??
As per usual, Virgin being Virgin. All blah blah blah talk the talk but won't walk the walk.
There may have been safety concerns for the staff i.e. trans or non-conforming crew might be harassed by the authorities in Qatar. You can't arrest a plane for being gay.
This is plain silly. Is this really what the LGBTQ movement has descended into? Flying planes with mildly pro gay cartoons into a staunchly Islamic country as a "protest"? How about boycotting the World Cup?
It's interesting how people and companies choose to take a stance. If England doesn't agree with Qatar's response to gender rights, why don't they just boycott the WC? Seems like when it's convenient or when dollars are involved, all morals and sensibility just go out of the window. If the WC was being played in Russia this year, I bet you no country would be going.
Gendered clothing norms - those local customs to which you refer - are dumb, and should be ridiculed in Qatar or Arkansas or wherever they occur.
Where's the uproar for the THOUSANDS of migrants that died during world cup construction in Qatar? Oh, sorry, forgot that airlines wouldn't get awarded any virtue signaling points for that.
This is irresponsible on the part of Virgin. By flying this aircraft into a country knowing that such fuselage artwork may be viewed as both inflammatory and illegal in that country, they place their crew at risk. Hopefully the Qataris don't react accordingly but either way, Virgin shouldn't engage in virtue signaling at the risk of their employees.
So brave, so bold...
This is a calculated risk, not to send a message to Qatar but to make another (useless and harmless) virtual signing to the western world.
It is just hyprocrisy...
It's not the "LGBT movement ", it's just a private company making a stance about something, not surprising for VA, for anyone familiar with the company's history.
What is to be respected about Qatari/Arab culture in this context?
Should we also respect the culture of bribery, deadly labour violations, mistreatment of women etc....?
There's a rather amusing irony in people needing to signal that they may have identified virtue-signalling behaviour.
Virgin have a history of being progressive with having a more inclusive work force and getting rid of stuffy traditions that add nothing to on board service. They don't have a history of being involved with immigrant labour laws in Middle Eastern countries.
Clearly you haven't experienced the hatred that many of us have...all our lives. WOW. So sad for you
Will they be taking such a "bold" stance against Iran executing 15,000 protestors?
Or do they agree with the Ayatollahs that hijabs and headscarves are wonderful, amazing things?
This is nothing to be proud of. You must respect the culture and religion of the host country. Just because western countries are just recently decided to be OK with this issue, doesn't make it right or give them the moral high ground. Just last week, those same countries wellingly send their most high representatives to attend COP27 in a country under military coup for 10 years, that killed, imprisoned, tortured 1000's of innocent people and still continuing to committ atrocities till today. Hypocracy and no standard. Disrespect to Arab and Muslim people's is impeded in the sychy and cultures of the west.
I have lived in the GCC for years and do know that one criticizes the local rules at their own risk. My comment has nothing to do with the merits of the position that VA wishes to support and I merely point to who may bear legal risk accordingly, without staying a moral judgment.
According to Churchill " Most of the British men prefer men instead of those Ghastly women".
I’d love to support VA but their premium business class is mediocre and their availability worse than BA with copy cat outrageous extortionate fees and surcharges.Their food sucks too and their offerings in their lounges
So for all those reasons no thanks
Did I mention I have to call an agent in 2022 to book a partner award while holding for an agent that doesn’t care or isn’t interested typically or incapable of finding it despite searching forever
Otherwise Great airline lol
So 5 stars for marketing and progressive brand inclusiveness perception
2 stars for all the rest of the business failures
Richard could do much better
They *are* playing football (“soccer” as you call it).
This is just a discussion, it’s not preventing games from being played.
JFC, calm down, Mary.
Its good and all I respect the choice LGBT people make but stop promoting gay sh*t to my kids. I SURELY wont fly Virgin atlantic or any other airlines that promotes LGBT to our future generations especially my kids.
I'm not defending Iran, but the number of people currently sentenced to death for protesting is 1, not 15k
Who cares? Airlines should stop the silly virtue signaling and focus on performance. Be on time, be safe, be comfortable and provide decent service.
Richard who ? Branson has nothing to do with them now, although his name is synonymous with the brand
For clarity's sake, Hijabs are mandated by God, the Ayatollahs are simply applying the restrictions and the penalties they believe are appropriate!
I am curious as to why you think "hijabs and headscarfs" are terrible bad things?
I feel sad for your kids, not talking about it doesn't mean it doesnt exist. Growing up in a homophobic environment has consequences. What if they push a kid from their school to kill themselves? What if they realise they are gay and can't be open about it?
Hate is not a culture.
Killing and putting people in jail based on who they are is not a cultural difference like having diner at 5pm instead of 7pm.
It is wrong.
Almost as useless as Lufthansa‘s virtue signaling move. It will change nothing in Qatar. But maybe it will score them some brownie points at the next wage negotiations with the FA‘s Union.
All these stands and comments are great, but why weren’t they happening 4 years ago in Russia or during any of the Olympics in China? Seems a bit racist to only care about human rights abuses by Arabs. Totally cool if Russians or Chinese (who we rely on to make money) do it.
If they really wanted to make a statement, cancel your flights to Doha. Wimps.
First 10 words shows that you're full of shit. And poor kids, especially if one of them ends up being gay (ooooh, so scary, huh?).
Its good and all I respect the choice STRAIGHT people make but stop promoting straight sh*t to my kids.
As most airline "promote" LGBTQ, guess you'll be walking
BTW interesting choice of name HARDIK
I agree Sherry, lets all respect hate, err I mean the culture.... I'll start with you, I hate you, why? You're different from me.
Will they stop at one? How about the 26 protesters, including 43 children and 25 women that have been killed by security forces, already?
The 15,000 was a widely reported number which will hopefully turn out to be wrong but it's still barbaric.
Its not quite as honourable of virgin as you might think. Cabin and flight crew on board were not given the uniform choice reflecting their gender identity that virgin offers on its other routes and made a huge fanfare out of only a few weeks ago. So while what they did was definitely a statement they didn't quite deliver on the message they were trying to get across to Qatar
It reminds me when all the airlines did something similar in Russia and China.. Oh wait!.
They are still flying. A statement is if they said "no flights". Put other airlines on the spot.
That's skin on the game, not this joke of a statement.
Respect the culture and religion?
What about the gay and bi men and women in that culture and religion? Don't they deserve some respect?
Culture and religion of the host country have no value, if human rights are not respected!