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Swoon: Rossiya's Super Space Business Class

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In May I wrote about my fascination with S7 Airlines, which is a oneworld airline based in Russia. They’re almost like a mini Russian Emirates, in the sense that they useNovosibirsk as a hub to connect people between Asia and Europe.

Continue reading: Swoon: Rossiya’s Super Space Business Class

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(@James)
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Check out their 747. I think it has first class. But has incredible livery.


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(@alex-r)
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Sounds nuts but then again nothing you do is ordinary.


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 John
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Hey lucky I flew their 747 from VKO-VVO-VKO, all on the same plane. I did a lot of research on this, I booked business class on the upper deck, but when I went down to check out the nose, it was completely empty!! But Rossiya wouldn’t let me book those seats! They however did let me sit in the front for the last two hours of the flight. The crew thought I was crazy for doing 16 hours of flying in 18 hours (2hour layover in VVO)


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 John
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Lucky! Make sure to book refundable and call the Aeroflot USA customer service center to choose your seat! That’s what I had to do


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(@Evgenyr)
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For make benefit Super Space Class reservations must be secured en suite at Rossiya offices. Look at openings and closings hours, they have like Spain the rest time in after midday.

Effective monies accepted (RUB, or if Minsk offices BYN accepted) or payment card (must meet validation requirement and do not forget for presentation on travel dates)

This offices found Moskau, Minsk, Irkutsk, Berlin, and Istanbul.

If agent say computer problem, be ready what you call tipping small amount will fix.


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@ John -- Thanks for the report, fascinating! I'm curious, how was the experience? Found Aeroflot to be excellent, so curious how Rossiya compares. And is there another benefit to booking refundable that I'm missing?


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(@Denis)
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There is a lot going on right now with flights from Moscow to the Russia's Far East (VVO, PKC, KHV, UUS, GDX). So I would suggest you to hold for a moment to see the development. Coz it's really mark it developing right now.

As of now Aeroflot operats the majority of flights from SVO to the Far East by SU own aircraft. Additional frequencies are also operated by Rossiya from VKO (which is considered lower cost low quality alternative to Aeroflot).

A week ago Aeroflot announced it would cease operating flights to the Far East as of 10/28 and transfer most of them to Rossiya. Russiya is supposed to be replacing Aeroflot and operating these flights from SVO (and ceasing flights from VKO) under SU code and slots. The announcement caused a revolt from passengers which was backed by some parliament members and governors (who understandably do not want to be exposed to Rossiya service standards instead of the Aeroflot ones).

So mark it as developing. We really don't know at the moment how operations would look like. I think you should wait for a couple of weeks to see some certainty.

As of now. You can get a super space seat only at a check in counter for 12,000 RUB ($200). The aircraft with those seats are EI-UNL, EI-UNM, EI-UNN, EI-UNP, EI-XLP. They operate various flight from VKO to the Far East, SIP, AER along with other aircraft with different cabin layout. So it could be today a flight VKO-VVO could be operated by an aircraft with first class seats, but tomorrow by one without them.

Anyways if you're going to take a flight after 10/28 you should be better waiting a bit.


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(@aladeen91)
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Hey Lucky,
You can also try them out on a trip to Bali. Aeroflot just announced they will use Rossiya aircraft on SVO-DPS. The route is operated by 777 aircraft so I guess they will also feature first class.
I think you have been to Bali but still SVO-DPS is a nice long leg to try out their first class! 🙂


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 Bern
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I would guess your chances of getting one of those seats depends on who else is on the flight. If there are biggies of some sort, either government or private you’re out of luck. No amount of tipping or being first in line is going to do you any good.
Good luck. Dan


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Hey lucky, I’m glad I booked refundable, because I originally was booked from VKO-KHV on their 747, they changed the plane to a 777 a week prior, so it only cost me 40 bucks to change to VVO. Also, flight attendants are fantastic, food is alright but overall, don’t book business due to angle flat seats, get those super business seats! They were amazing for the 2 hours they let me sit in one


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(@stuffy)
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Lucky, as another commenter wrote you can go to Bali with new announced service on the Rossiya 777.


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 JRL
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@ Lucky — FYI: I've seen the Rossiya 744 on the ground at HKT on several occasions this year. Not sure if it's operating to the public or if it was seasonal charter service. "1A" is easy enough to say in Thai...

—JRL


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 Cal
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Rossiya doesn’t have B777-300ERs, however they have B777-300 non ERs which are ex SQ birds. Big diff.


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Pardon me, they do have 777-300ERs. Taken from Emirates just this year.


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(@SQFirst)
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Ben,

Your strategy on this is flawed to say the least. Russian airlines are super political so if there are VIPs on your flight, they won't let anyone else sit in row 1. You have flown Air India's First Class on 777-300ER aircraft--those are the exact same seats Transaero offered except with different upholstery. If you really want to maximize your chances, then choose a route operated by 744--those have 12 former Imperial Class seats (though note that the aircraft came from South African Airways back when the carrier had First Class).


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(@SQFirst)
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*Correction about my previous post: select Rossiya's 744s have 12 former F seats but these are actually from Singapore Airlines. See this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrIK_UUFBwU and forward to 10:25 where you will see what I mean.


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(@SQFirst)
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*Correction about my previous post: the F seats on the Rossiya 744s actually came from Singapore Airlines. Watch the url I attached and forward to 10:25.


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(@davygravy)
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Golden shower lol


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(@Nicolas)
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I did this summer during WC LED-SIP on 744. Nose was not opened for pax, upper deck was fine. I took a look into the nose during the flight and was fascinated. Get ready the check in agents on domestic flights may not have the best English skills and getting something from them can be a real pain.


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What about stretching the length of the flight and going all the way to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky? Beautiful scenery on approach. Not sure about connections to NRT though.


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(@jesse-3)
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@Denis Yeah, I read that on vl.ru recently. It kinda ticked me off. I fly Aeroflot regularly between VVO and SVO, and I love Aeroflot. I decided to try Rossiya from VVO-VKO one time. It was a horrendous experience. The planes were old and the service was subpar. There was no individual entertainment and the food was revolting. Plus, the flights in both directions were delayed due to mechanical issues. I hate the thought of being forced to take Rossiya from Vladivostok to Moscow. To add insult to injury, I read that they will begin charging the same as Aeroflot for that route, which is laughable. The only improvement would be flying into Sheremetyevo instead of Vnukovo.
@Lucky, I am a long-time American resident of Vladivostok. Feel free to ask questions about what to do in Vladivostok. Just an FYI, VVO airport literally has nothing to do, so hopefully you will enjoy the beauty of Vladivostok for a few days rather than just transiting there.


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