Qantas has announced its narrow body fleet renewal plan. It’s bad news for Boeing, and good news for Airbus (and passengers, for that matter).
Continue reading: Qantas Ordering Airbus A321XLR & A220-300
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4,700nm (A321 XLR’s range) from SYD can take you to:
1. Japan
2. China
3. Pacific Islands
From PER, that distance could cover India. I think they’re not only going after flexibility, but also range options to the above markers while keeping operating economics sensible. We could, I think, see the likes of DEL-PER and BOM-PER where Perth will grow to become a bigger hub.
And from SYD/MEL, maybe flights to Pacific island nations, tier 2 Chinese cities, and perhaps even KUL. Maybe even CGK/DPS from MEL
QF are smart to order Airbus and even smarter for including 321XLRs in the mix. It will allow them to fly thin routes into Asia and other South Pacific destinations where the A330s are too much plane or only work at certain times of the year. The 320/220s are a great replacement for the 737, with wider cabins, better passenger service experience, and more flexibility across the fleet for domestic flights. The 737 MAX is a piece of junk.
The glory days of Boeing are over unless there’s a complete 90 degree turn in management culture. McKinsey hollowed American institutions…
McKinsey is a bloated, overrated institution that indeed erodes companies instead of unlocking value. Boeing was done in by greed, hubris, and too cozy a relationship with the US government. It will take years for Boeing to recover, but it will, and hopefully, its workers will learn to do their jobs properly and not cut corners.
Of course it could be that the A21NXLRs may go to Jetstar and some Jetstar A21Ns move to Qantas for the trunk routes.
In any event, this is a great development for Qantas, Airbus and Australia.
I am Upset by how little you are supporting American Industry and Jobs lucky.
This is not a good thing in any way, plus the French hate the Australians for buying superior American submarines, so while they order machines from the French again here, they may soon change their mind.
Could also allow SYD-KIX to be permanent and daily, add FUK. Also so southeast Asian tourist destinations like Phuket and langkawi.
Maybe even Melbourne gets some love and gets flights or places like KL, Jakarta and Saigon.
More generally though the XLR is such a great tool for airbus to have. Boeing has nothing to touch it, so if an airline wants those capabilities and a unibodies narrowbody fleet, everything has to be airbus. What with jetstar already having a320s it feels like it wasn’t much of a contest.
Can’t wait for it, the QF 737-800 I was on the other day was looking pretty tired.
I am sorry, but you cannot be upset at the writer for expressing HIS opinion on the jets on HIS blog
I have flew Qantas 737 between NZ and Australia, and other than having PTV on every seat it was less comfortable in every other way compared to their low cost alternative Jetstar's A320.
Missed the days when Emirates had 3x daily 5th freedom A380 flights between Auckland and the 3 major cities in Eastern Australia.
PS. The A321XLR will open up lots of opportunities between Australia and South East Asia and Japan. The premium cabin might sucks a bit but for the majority of passengers sitting at the back of the plane it might even be an improvement over their 787, at least the seats and shoulder space is wider.
Yes that order is made specifically for near Asia and of course to re- new the now ageing 737 fleet- no more going down on your knees to arm those doors !!!
It is a good thing for the travelers who get to fly on more comfortable planes. It's a good thing for the airline who can use their new planes on more routes. Perhaps you should be upset at Boeing and the polished turd they're offering in this competition. They look like the American auto makers circa 1980: offering poor-quality, obsolete products, and standing on nothing but their own institutional arrogance.
Also Western Sydney Airport will open in the life of these planes, No announced plans, but could see A320XLRs going there and working on VFR and holiday destinations in Asia for Jetstar.
Qantas will be putting plenty of pilots through retraining here.
Although Airbus have attempted to minimise training requirements for pilots transitioning between Airbus aircraft, the majority of pilots are certified to fly the 737.
Jetstar does operate the A320, however those pilots are on a completely different payscale. Virgin Australia pilots are also by-and-large trained to fly 737 aircraft.
The cost of training would have been a factor for Qantas - the value proposition here from Airbus was seemingly very attractive!
Given Australia’s remote geography, I would think the XLR is a perfect fit for Qantas to offer non-stop services from major Australian cities to destinations in Asia that cannot sustain long haul flights.
Competing with low cost carriers with its higher cost base, Qantas has had to develop a premium business model- which has made it hard to serve markets such as KL, Bangkok, Manila and even Southern Indian cities like Chennai and Bangalore with widebody aircraft’s.
I could even see them serving destinations existing destinations such as HK and SG from cities like Adelaide, Perth and Cairns with the XLR.
The 321s will work for long thin routes to the Asia/Pacific region if Qantas stops insulting their business-class passengers with 38” pitch recliner seats. We used to travel to Bali every year in the Before Times, and always flew Garuda because the biz product offered by Qantas and Virgin on their 737s was ok for the day-flight up to Denpasar, but horrible on the red-eye back to Australia. Qantas did start operating 330s just before the pandemic, but only out of SYD (surprise, surprise), and it wasn’t an incentive for those of us who don’t live in Sydney to connect, when Garuda were offering nine non-stop, A330 flights with proper flat beds in each direction every week.
Airbus aircraft are assembled in France from components manufactured in may different nations, just like Boeing aircraft are assembled in the United States from components made in different nations.
Ben is allowed to hold and express his own opinion, without feeling like he has to blindly nationalistic about it.
Going with the XLR means that during the day the planes can fly the triangle routes and during peak hour and be rotated on to red eyes to Denpasar, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Manila etc and then be back in time in the morning for the peak rush.
Also would allow for a transcon flight to land, go to somewhere in Asia and back for the morning.
The Australian government's decision to switch to a U.S./British nuclear submarine design over the previous French design has nothing to do with Qantas' decision to purchase the newer and better (more fuel efficient and more comfortable) Airbus aircraft.
Rather than be upset with Lucky, you should be upset at Boeing's senior management, which decided to squeeze out maximum profits from the dated 737 design instead of investing in a clean-sheet, single-aisle aircraft. Boeing offers only the tarnished and dated 737 MAX single-aisle aircraft versus Airbus' newer A320neo and A220 aircraft. Boeing is clearly playing from behind now. Furthermore, Boeing is having production/delivery troubles with multiple aircraft programs: the 737 MAX, the 787, the 777-X, and the KC-46 (military tanker). One wonders if Boeing knows how to do anything right anymore.
Maybe they intend to do multi city flights like SYD-MEL-TOKYO. Or MEL-SYD-Fiji?
I think that Qantas has chosen the 321xlr for a few reasons.
1. To match Virgins capacity with the Max
2. To fly multiple legs within Australia without Re fuelling. Faster turnarounds on the ground
3. To have a flexible domestic international option.
I think based on those reasons it's a smart move.
I have a feeling Qantas didn't specify the other 94 planes because are hedging their bets on an A220-500. If Airbus give that plane the go ahead, Qantas will be all over it like a flock of seagulls on a dropped bag of hot chips at Bondi.