In early 2022, Finnair announced some major passenger experience upgrades, as the airline planned to refresh the cabins on all of its long haul aircraft. In addition to introducing a new business class, the airline also finally introduced a premium economy cabin, which it didn’t previously have. There’s now a major update when it comes…
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By now it’s going to take Lufthansa 5 years to update wide body fleet and then allegris will be outdated
While the first meal service in PE is okay, the second service is a minuscule cardboard box with some inedible mush. The same as in Y. Please don't call it a light meal, as it is nowhere near a "meal".
I am a fan of the new J seat. There is a lot of room to sleep in different positions and lounging is comfortable, too. The seat is also very private.
The soft product is increasingly lacking, though, from lacklustre meals to a narrow and cheap drink selection to non-existing memory foam pillows (Those were marketed as an integral part of the new J hard product, but were quietly "enhanced" away in its early stages. However, a few are still loaded on every flight so make sure to ask for one, they are a lot better than the flimsy ones now offered).
I am struggling to see how this seat is any different than SQ's a350 and old a380 business class seats except the recline possibility. You still sleep at an angle, but somehow everyone thinks Finnair's seat is miles better than SQ's for sleeping, when it's essentially the same experience.
Thank you for this article. I will put Finnair on the radar from now on. The seat seems better than any of the current J seats of LH group, which counts. Sorry for the food though.
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Long story short, I and many others now actively avoid Finnair because of this. The new J product is actually just a really nice PE product, where you give up recline in return for a lie flat (as many other industry concepts propose). To those mentioning SQ, Singapores J product is much better than this.
This J seat is nothing more than a race to the bottom with a new tv screen.
I have taken a few flights in those seats. I dislike the lack of recline tbh, but you buy yourself a bit of extra space, it seems. I don’t need that tbh. Each to their own I suppose. Also dislike that their Platinum (One World Emerald) lounge in HEL is mostly closed, except for a few hours when no long haul flights actually depart . Food is mediocre, in the lounge and on the flights. After four longhaul flights I struggled with the weak IFE options. You quickly run out of stuff to watch tbh. Otoh, at least when I booked, way cheaper than other OW carriers, so I would book again if the value proposition is right. HEL is a great airport to connect.
I havent tried this but I also dislike these new lie-flat seats without any recline at all. In my opinion these are just nice for over-night flights but else much less comfortable than a normal recline non-lie-flat seat.
The new J seats are really great, I love them. I’m happy that now all longhaul planes have them.
Your headline says that there's now business and PE on all jets. Unless I'm missing something your post says that it's widebodies only though. You may want to revise one or the other.
On Mars 2017 OMAAT was publishing "My Thoughts On Qatar Airways’ New Business Class Qsuite" , and until this days (7 years later) some planes of Qatar Airways still fly the antic business class and Qatar Airways had no plan to refurbish most of their fleet. What a joke.
Gratulation on Finnair for the achievement !
They have to do something given how they need to promote people to connect via Helsinki and how out of the way it is these days.
As a tall person (6ft3) I find it’s actually much worse than the old SQ seat for sleeping. Perfectly good for a day flight but not for sleeping.