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Kuwait Airways Is Rebranding... But Will Anything Change?

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While Gulf carriers like Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar are known for their great service, the same can't be said for Kuwait Airways. For whatever reason they have among the worst premium cabin products of any longhaul carrier. For example, as of now the airline only has two 777-200 aircraft, and they features uncomfortable and tight…

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(@keitherson)
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Lucky, I'm kind of doubting you have a subscription to the Kuwait Times and monitor them for aviation news relating to Kuwait Airways, so you should properly start crediting your source for wherever you get this tipped information from. Simply just going to the primary news report and then writing your own analysis is disingenuous if the whole reason you were even alerted to the information is not properly sourced.


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(@alvin-ythk)
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According to some leaked seatmaps, Kuwait will feature 1-2-1 suites (hopefully suites - it's not confirmed) in first class, Qatar A340-style business class seats in a 2-2-2 configuration, and economy plus (branded as premium economy) and economy both in a 3-3-3 configuration. Looks like they don't have enough traffic for a 3-4-3 configuration, but I'm not complaining.


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(@alvin-ythk)
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Here it is:


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(@CraigTPA)
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The new logo is...well, not entirely new, but a nice evolution of the existing bird logo. As for the livery, the tail is fine, the rest is just another bland white fuselage with "billboard"-style naming on the front. Wow, how original.


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Diamond
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@keitherson

If he's anything like me, Lucky's got news alerts set up to deliver articles, wherever they pop up, to his newsfeed.

If a computer alerts you because you asked it to, who do you "credit" for the tip?

Just my 2¢.


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(@Timtamtrak)
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@keitherson: Considering this blog and other airline related tasks are his job, it is not inconceivable ithat he combs the net on a regular basis for airline news. I do and it's not even my job. Also, since he has been wanting to review Kuwait Airways for a while it is even more logical to expect he would keep a slightly closer eye on them. It is not uncommon for Ben to give a 'tip of the hat' or otherwise credit other sites or bloggers for information he posts, why wouldn't he have done that if today was the case?


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(@Petter N.)
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If or when Kuwait Airlines 'accept' Israeli passports/oassengers THEN there's a change; until then?


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(@Jacinda)
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"If or when Kuwait Airlines ‘accept’ Israeli passports/oassengers THEN there’s a change; until then?"

Who gives a sh*t if they do or don't?


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(@LSG Sky Chefs FRA)
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Kuwait A330 actually has 2-2-2 angled Zodiac Aurora Lite, These are the same seat type as Ethiopian 787 that you took few years ago. (but ET now has B/E Diamond instead)
Ethiopian 787: https://onemileatatime.com/review-ethiopian-airlines-business-class-787-beijing-addis-ababa/


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(@LSG Sky Chefs FRA)
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Sorry, it's Zodiac Aura Lite.


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 Rob
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@Jacinda I mean it did cause them to have to cancel a route from NY which was probably the most obvious way any of us would fly them.


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Kuwait Airways seem serious about this re-branding. They are investing heavily and recruiting new expat managers to guide this process - in fact one of the new team is a good friend of mine and a reader of your blog (although he hasn't started the new position and probably won't reveal himself yet).

That said, I have my doubts as to whether their realignment can realistically work. There is always going to be a market for labour traffic to/from Kuwait, but their ambitions are larger than that. The local market is tiny and capitalising on 6th freedom premium cabin traffic is difficult for a dry airline. No matter how well they execute, there is quite simply not enough traffic to go around and KU is already handicapped by their late start from well behind EK/EY/QR - not even considering GF/WY.

I wish them well, but I'm not optimistic.


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(@John L)
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Flew them from Istanbul thru Kuwait City to Colombo at the end of September 2016. Really poor service, evident they don't care. Won't be flying them again.


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(@Jacinda)
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@Rob they canceled JFK-LHR. They still fly JFK-KWI.


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 Ben
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@Sean M – I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there. The ME carriers have built their businesses on connecting traffic, especially between the subcontinent and US, and Asia/Pacific and Europe and they do this extremely well. They have invested heavily in their product for years – new aircraft, fancy new hard products, impressive f&b operations, beautiful lounges, both hub and outstation. They are established players with excellent reputations. Kuwait has the very difficult task of trying to compete from basically scratch with these big players and have the added handicap of being a dry airline, so are unable to offer something their competitors already do.
In order to compete given they already have the handicaps I’ve already mentioned, they need to offer something their competitors don’t. A reverse herringbone F and 2-2-2 J is not only lagging behind their competitors, its not offering pax anything incentive to fly with them.
I can’t see this rebrand being competitive.


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(@CraigTPA)
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@Petter N. - you realize that Kuwait Airways' policy regarding Israeli passengers is due to Kuwait's laws, not necessarily their own choice, right?


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I'd be thinking we'd see cabins like this sooner rather than later. With business class becoming more spacious and economy class getting tighter, many airlines are introducing premium economy to bridge the gap. Kuwait Airways' business class looks like a higher end version of many premium economy products. I'm surprised it took so long for an airline to brand recliner seats as business class and full-flat, direct aisle access seats as first class. "Real" first class cabins these days are largely empty (Which you wrote a post about based on a question I asked in your forum.), so introducing cheaper reverse-herringbone seats as first class will increase premium-cabin passengers I'd imagine. And I'd bet that more people would be willing to pay for "business" class if it is simply branded as business class while maintaining premium economy prices. Business class just has a sort of prestige to it which may entice some middle-budget travelers to see it as worth it to shell out the extra cash.


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 Zim
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The recliner business class seats that you put are actually for the a320, btw. The new a330s have the same business class seats as Air India has on their 787s. https://youtu.be/4sGJpNGY9Ao?t=1m24s


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@ Zim -- I might be missing something, but I don't think that's true. The KU J seats shown in that video are clearly angled (evident based on the lack of an ottoman), while Air India's 787 J seats are fully flat and have an ottoman.


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(@emercycrite)
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Not a fan of the new livery.


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(@Marc Hastenteufel)
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Well, at last, I like the tail of the plane much better than the old one. Took them FRA-BKK and back last winter and have them again this winter. Liked the new 777 - a lot of space in Economy and nice big screens. The airport is like a bus station but the new terminal is open now - let's see what this looks like. I got both flights for less than 440€ each winter so that is quite good value for money!


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