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Japanese Pilot Tries To Operate Flight Over Legal Alcohol Limit, Co-Pilot Tries To Cover It Up

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Japan Airlines has been in the news recently over some alcohol related incidents for their crew members. The first major incident involved a Japan Airlines pilot who attempted to pilot a flight from London to Tokyo while ten times over the legal alcohol limit for pilots. He ended up being jailed in the UK for…

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Diamond
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Drinking is pervasive in many cultures, but having spent many years living and working in Japan, I found it to be be much more ingrained in daily life there - and not just drinking per se, but getting very drunk - than in anywhere else I've lived on three continents. The number of salarymen asleep in the subway or JR stations at 4/5 am on a Saturday morning after some nomihodai (all you can drink) after work on Friday can be staggering to the uninitiated. While this saddens me, this news is not particularly surprising.


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(@Kevin)
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When the punishment is harsh enough, these pilots will obey the rule and stop drinking at the appropriate time. It’s really not that hard...drink soda instead or some non alcoholic beer. If you can’t obey the rule, don’t be a pilot. It’s really simple.


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 John
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Less news, more travel reporting. Get to work, Lucky!


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 Sean
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Came here for Debit's commentary, not disappointed.

When all is said and done, hungover pilots barely sounds better than drunk. Just lay off the loopy juice while working, it's not hard for most. If they have a legit problem, they need to get help. Alcohol's not a great way to deal with stress anyways.


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 Bill
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" this guy may not have actually been “drunk,” but was rather just over the limit for pilots." He doesn't need to be falling down drunk. If his judgement is impaired it can lead to the death of everyone on that plane. There is a reason why the limit is what it is.


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(@xavier)
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@debit you know absolutely nothing about the people in the catholic church if you make a comment like that-in every organization bad things happen


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 Jay
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Xavier, you must be new around here.


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 lu
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yeah, it was taken very serious.. again. hahaha... you have to love the Japanese


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Diamond
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"@debit you know absolutely nothing about the people in the catholic church if you make a comment like that-in every organization bad things happen"

Xavier,
You been living under a rock? The catholic church is ripe with pedophiles.

On a sobering note, I lived in Japan for a few years and alcohol is ingrained like I have never before seen in any of my travels. Hell, the street I lived on had a beer vending machine. Do not let this flaw your outlook on the country, as I have yet to spend time in another country that is amazing as Japan. Where I lived the police did not even carry guns.


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 ben
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Ouch for ANA. Misleading header image?


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Diamond
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@ Kevin
“When the punishment is harsh enough ... [they] will obey the rule”

I don’t think you have *any* understanding of human nature. Most of us simply don’t work like that.

Consider cultures where the punishment for adultery is stoning to death - you can’t have a harsher punishment, yet some people still commit adultery.

This ain’t about punishment: it’s about developing a corporate culture where it’s everyone’s business to help their colleagues to conform to the requirements (and to report any time they think someone hasn’t, rather than leaving it to random bus drivers).


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 W
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@lucky - Have you ever had a drunk pilot on your flight before?


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(@schar)
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@ben well, it was ANA's subsidiary, so the closest image they could find in their database was prob from the mother company, so not entirely off base. chill.


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(@christ)
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you need to change the photo - that and the headline together make it look like the issue was with ANA. all japanese airlines aren't one.


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(@Eskimo)
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@Xavier
Don't blame @Debit. Remember God created @Debit for a reason. God made Trump the President of a reason. God made his clergy seducing young boys for a reason.

Even Xenu isn't that sick. Maybe this is a good time to bring the e-meter to measure the Bishop's Thetan every Sunday.


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