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Japan Airlines Cash Upgrades On Domestic Flights: A Great Deal

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In a previous installment, I shared my experience flying Japan Airlines’ domestic first class on an Airbus A350-900, from Sapporo to Tokyo. As I hinted at in the post, Japan Airlines has a pretty lucrative cash upgrade program, whereby you can buy upgrades on the day of departure at a reasonable cost.

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Diamond
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The pricing for booking first class in advance is often a much higher uplift than the day of departure upgrades. This is due to the fare class and what available fare class allows for a first class booking outright. The number of first class seats available for the discounted fare classes are very low, so while you might get a super discounted Y fare, the base fare you need to be able to book domestic first class can be a lot higher. And often you'd see a 30,000 yen or more difference between Y and F.


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(@Pogonation)
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Great post Ben. I have availed of the F class upgrade to ITM a few times now and it really is worth it! Firstly to point out a typo: you have put 11,000 JPY = 22USD and you meant 72USD.

Secondly I wondered if you know of any way to do this without physically presenting oneself at the office if on an AA award ticket? I have one day in Tokyo before my winter flight to CTS and if it could be done on the phone instead and give us an extra hour in the city centre that would be great?


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Diamond
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On a non JAL issued ticket you need to go to an airport counter. You can request it at check in manned or kiosk, at ticket counter landside, a service counter airside, or at the lounges.


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@ Pogonation -- Fixed, thank you! And unfortunately much like CPH-Flyer said, I don't think there's any way to do this outside of the airport if you're on a partner ticket, sadly.


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 aC
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Great, this will mean more folks that don't bother to learn the language to demand they're "now in first"...
Frankly, I think one of the reason that JAL domestic first is not easily bookable via partner miles is because they want to keep it catered to the domestic client orr clients who bother to learn the language and local etiquette.
I love Japan and travel there probably 3 or 4 times a year, and learning the language makes you realise how shallow the "western" view of Japan somewhat underappreciate what it has to offer.


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Diamond
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given the very narrow timeframe in which these are even available, these are just a very cost effective way to monetize the few remaining seats.
The price differential and the lack of difference in pricing depending on time probably says there are some flights where multiples of these seats are available and other times when there will be none of these seats available.

Since it is so close to departure, JAL undoubtedly caters the first class cabin full so they will have 100% pork for every seat - which is notable since the Japanese clearly don't think pigs are any smarter than dogs or other four legged creatures.


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(@Jesse)
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It normally would have been 8,800 yen (8,000 yen plus 10% sales tax). You might not have had to pay sales tax because you were transiting on an international ticket, but it could also have been an oversight.


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@Ben: Does the upgrade have any effect on lounge access when connecting to a JAL international flight? If you have a CTS-HND-JFK award ticked in business and buy a domestic F upgrade, does it get you into the international F lounge?


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@ SBS -- It doesn't, as there are dedicated domestic first class lounges, with different access requirements than international first class lounges.


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@ Jesse -- Ah, that could be it, thanks!


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Oh, it actually says tax free right on the receipt. 免税 next to UPGRADE means "tax free," so mystery solved.


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 dx
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If it’s a cash ticket, do you earn bonus AA Loyalty Points for flying premium economy or domestic first on JAL? Just curious as that would obviously sweeten the deal a bit.


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@ dx -- It's my understanding that it credits based on the initial fare class.


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Diamond
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Good to know. I prioritize the experience over loyalty when flying domestic in Asia. I've found OW carriers there (CX and JAL at least) too obsessed with fare codes to make it worth prioritizing them.

I flew NRT -> TPE on CX for like $300 on an economy fare and it earned me 0 miles and 0 AA loyalty points. From a review of the JAL earning, a good deal of fare codes also earn nothing, or a scant percentage of miles flown in economy.


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(@Philip)
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Thanks Ben. Sounds a good deal. Can I confirm that an upgrade to first using this option does get you lounge access at departure airport? Thanks


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Diamond
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It credits based on the upgraded fare.


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(@Jesse)
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CX from NRT to TPE is a fifth freedom flight, so it's super cheap, but you don't really get any miles.


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Diamond
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+1 to CPH-Flyer and it is quite popular way to boost JAL status credit called Fly On Point and improve SCs/cost ratio. I remember that it was also popular trick for other OW programs using Status Credit to boost SCs like BA and QF, but I am not sure still that is the case.


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(@JessicaH)
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According to the picture of receipt it says "UPGRADE 免税" - so the Japanese here means exactly that, tax free.
That's why it's 8000 Yen.


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(@Jinxed_K)
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This is new to me.. when I regularly flew JAL domestic, the same day airport standby upgrades to Class J were a flat 1000jpy. I would get a Japan explorer fare for 10,000jpy and add the Class J upgrade where I could for another 1000jpy more which made it very cheap and comfortable to fly 1-2 hours domestically.
Googling shows this was changed in 2022.


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Diamond
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Great idea, a separate class only for certain people.... Kind of like those who had to sit at the back of the bus and those privileged enough to sit at the front. Is that what you are getting at?


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 Samo
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@aC - Yes, we know that Japan is super racist, no need to remind us.


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 Samo
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Was this part of an international ticket? That could explain why tax wasn't charged.


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(@James)
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JAL is great in so many ways... except both JAL and ANA arbitrarily limit carry on allowance to 10kg TOTAL regardless of the cabin you're in...

I didn't know this, and had medical equipment in my roller carry on (too large to transfer to my laptop bag). I told them, I simply can't check it. They did end up letting me on with it... but honestly seems insane to me that on a $7k - $8k ticket you're still 'limited' to '10kg' of carry on luggage...

They didn't seem to even be checking at the gate. Saw plenty of business guys with the aluminum Rimowas (that way like 6kg empty...) and I know first hand it's near impossible to get a laptop bag to weight less than 8 pounds when full...

Lesson learned is don't check in at the counter or don't fly domestically within Japan... but as you said, JAL is super picky about availability, and there's often WAY more availability if you are connecting...


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(@Jessica)
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Your CTS-HND ticket was sold as part of an international itinerary, and all international air tickets are exempt from the 10% Sales Tax, so the tax won't apply as long as the connection time between the international and domestic flight(s) is under 24 hours.
https://faq-en.jal.co.jp/app/answers/detail/a_id/30559/~/does-the-international-fare%2C-charges-or-fees-include-japanese-consumption-tax%3F


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(@Brodie)
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Great tip! Just boarded ITM-HND and chilling in 1st class. Money well spent.


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(@Brian Van Dorheim)
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Hi Ben,

I was looking up information for JAL Departure Date Cash Upgrade. Their web page now says "Departure date upgrade will be the service only for the JAL Mileage Bank (JMB) members starting from December 18, 2025." Does this mean that tickets not booked under/linked to a JMB membership will not be able to take advantage of same day upgrade from Dec 18?

Thanks,
Brian


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