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Here's Why United's CEO Doesn't Fly His Own Airline

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Last September Jeff Smisek stepped down as United CEO, following the scandal involving the Chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Smisek was replaced by Oscar Munoz, who seems like a good guy who genuinely wants to change United for the better. Unfortunately Munoz suffered a heart attack about a month…

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 JC1
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Lucky,

Very simple as someone who had a loved one undergo a transplant in the last 6 months it has to do with bacterial and viral infections. Specifically individuals who have a transplant are placed on immunosuppressants for the rest of their life which means they have no immune system. As such, being on a commercial jet with numerous other individuals where the air is circulated and one or more of those individuals is likely to have a cold you increase your odds of catching the virus or bacteria. In addition, it typically takes 6 to 12 months for the medications to be fully tweaked which is why doctors advise patients who have undergone a transplant to not fly and also to limit their exposure to sick individuals and where a mask out in public similar to those that you see worn by many in China and other Asian countries.

This is definitely a real issue and should not be taken lightly by anyone who has undergone a transplant.


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 Avs
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When you undergo a transplant, your immune system is severely at risk of an attack (due to all the immunosuppressants you are required to take). Most people are expected to avoid leaving their homes / mixing with a lot of people. He can't afford to do that given he is the CEO of a major corp, so flying private minimizes the interaction he has with other people.


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(@danfromsanfran)
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Chances are due to the transplant he has to take medications that suppress his immune system so he can avoid rejecting his new heart. Flying commercially in a crowded plane would probably be more dangerous for him than the average passenger. Just a guess.


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 Tom
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This is a very tmz shitty article. Your turning into parez Hilton. You are better than this Ben.


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 Jack
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Ben a little research on your part would have answered this question. We read this for real news, not tabloid sensationalism. Step up your game and don't fall into the gutter.


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 Jeff
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This headline is like clickbait


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(@chancer)
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I don't need a heart attack/organ transplant to avoid United. Having an overnight delay on the one and only UA flight I've had all year is reason enough.


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 Frog
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Clickbait again. Seems like its becoming a regular feature here. Disappointing.


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(@Keith)
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Total clickbait - why not just write an article about how you are banned from United? That'd be a lot more interesting.


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(@Noel John)
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What the actual FU*K Ben?
You're a blogger, this blog was way better when you had fewer readers but as the number of readers increase the amount of shit posted by you keeps increasing, more clickbait articles, posts that are just copy pasted news articles with a question at the end to garner more comments and so on...
HUGE DISLIKE!!


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Gold
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Sometimes Lucky comes across as having a very childish mentality, and it is happening with increasing frequency. Instead of writing truly valuable travel-related articles, it seems you are writing articles in the hope of getting traffic.

A few weeks ago, there was the "the rules don't apply to me" article....flaunting the cell phone/airplane mode directive.

Now....what high schooler does not understand the possibility of rejection following an organ transplant? If he continues his work, of course Muñoz needs to place himself in an environment that diminishes contact with lots of people.

Lucky, your naïveté is showing .... and it's not pretty. Time to grow up a little -- if that's how you want to be seen.


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(@santastico)
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He only drives his Polaris off-road vehicle. 🙂


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(@nolan-snoeyink)
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I would really like to hear your United story, Ben. Maybe by sharing the story, United would be compelled to work something out?


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 JRT
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I don't understand what prevented you from just googling "heart transplant air travel," which would have immediately clarified the problem. I know you're not a journalist, but come on, that's the type of investigation that even middle schoolers with minimal curiosity are capable of...


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(@Ryan Bingham)
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@Lucky I met Oscar at the GS event that was held at Gotham Hall yesterday and I tried to put in a good word for you with him. Hating on his health issue is not right if you are trying to come back home to your original love.


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(@DougG)
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Although the primary reason is related to his health I think there is another reason to fly private, it is much more efficient. While it is easy to be jealous and/or snarky about high ranking business people or government officials flying around in private aircraft (and there are instances where it can get abused of course), in reality, those folks are really busy with huge demands on their time. Having Mr Munoz sitting around an airport or standing in a security line is just not a very efficient use of his day.

Given that he runs the airline he would definitely want to experience the product and interface with employees periodically. But flying regularly scheduled United flights? Not so much.

PS: I will add my voice to the chorus that this piece (especially the headline) was below your standard.


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(@Andy J)
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maybe if recirculated air is such an issue on planes and making people sick, he should use this knowledge and United should invest in research of better air filtration technology that they can install on their planes. or maybe United should clean their planes better. getting sick on planes from other passengers' germs puts me off the idea of flying too much


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(@Martina)
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@Keith

Is Ben really banned from United? Or was that just hyperbole?


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(@donna)
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If you have ever watched a cleaning crew at work following a flight, you will realize very quickly that nothing is actually "cleaned." The same wiping cloths are used over and over on tray tables and arm rests, just spreading germs evenly throughout the cabins. I don't even want to think about the biohazard situation in the lavatories. I always shower as soon as I arrive at my hotel or return home following flights.

If I were him, I'd probably never fly commercial again.


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 Jim
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Total clickbait title and tabloid-esque article. The article doesn't even address "Here's Why" as the title says, and you're implying in the title he's flying a commercial competitor. Please don't degrade the quality of one of my "go to" blogs.


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 me
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Echo everyone else--crap post.


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(@stuart-falk)
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@Ben,

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By registering to become an organ donor, one person may save the lives of up to eight people. Anyone can indicate their desire to be a donor, regardless of age or medical history.

http://www.organdonor.gov/

https://donatelife.net/organ-donation/


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(@Keith)
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No not hyperbole - Ben is banned from United & despite a brief mention of it in a Rolling Stones article, he *never* talks about it.


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(@stuart-falk)
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@Keith: I don't know why Ben had more trust in the readers of Rolling Stone than of his blog, especially when the UA ban has such a devastating effect on the blog's content. As one who has always admired Ben for his openness, this continues to perplex me.

At this point, with new UA management, I would think that there is a good chance of their reversing the ban, if Ben made an effort to ask them to do so. But once again, we, his loyal readers, are left in the dark. So, it is not out of place to wonder if Ben's current relationship with UA is rooted in bitterness and revenge, or if he is open to flying UA if they would agree to it.

As it stands, Ben has put his readers in the middle.


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(@Martina)
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@Keith

Wow. Thanks for the reply. Now I am curious....about how/why? If I were to hazard a guess, either they didn't like something he wrote about...and/or he found a loophole and used/exploited it. e.g. bought a bunch of 1st class erroneous fare tickets so they found a way/reason to ban him rather than honor them.


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 Stvr
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I think this post was fine. You all should steer clear of view from the wing if this flavor of content offends you. The two blogs are exactly the same this morning


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Gold
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In re: UA -- Fraudulent reuse of travel vouchers ("exploiting" or "hacking" a "glitch") equals Lifetime Ban.

OneScamataTime

res ipsa loquitor


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 Eric
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More TMZ clickbait - but hey, so long as it drives up page views who cares?!

If you really had doubts about the explanation given, Google is your friend, Ben, this isn't rocket science to figure out.

I'm sure an additional factor is that flying privately in a biz jet opens up more options for emergency landings at airports that may be accessible to a nearby hospital but might not accommodate a 737, 767, etc.


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 Sam
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Total clickbait, but kudos for letting through comments on your UA ban.
An post on that would indeed be far more interesting.


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 Kent
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Same reason why all my corporate accounts use my biz jet service - flexibility, guarantee, luxury and speed... Good luck using commercial airlines when you have back to back meetings in three continents within 48 hours.


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(@petter-paulsen)
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OMG@Lucky,
If this gentleman, was my CEO, I would seriously re-consider my position as CFO,
in European terms, this would have lead to some serious crisis, we are seeing one in Sweden at the moment.
There must be tons of boards looking straight in the mirror and say, I "*ucked up".


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(@nathan)
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I think it may have to do with the stress we encounter at the airport, even on the premium lines, the waiting in line, the carrying of luggage, security lines, check in lines, boarding lines, even a line, to get on line, like at the AA term at LAX !!!! (IM NOT MAKING THIS UP) there's a line to get on line to the the escalator up to then get on line for security !!! Private jet travel is much more civi and relaxing. Doctor ordered private jets.


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(@Kieran)
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Apart from the reasons mentioned by other posters, I would think that it's far easier and quicker to divert a private jet, if there is a medical issue, than a United flight full of passengers.

While I would agree the article title of this post was clickbaity, I didn't think the article was terrible or vindictive as a lot of comments here suggest. Surprised people commenting on this article (commenters usually are regular readers) aren't aware of Ben's ban from United, for pushing too hard on hacks (I only read this blog intermittently and I'm aware of it). It's true the quality of this blog has decreased since Lucky did his Rolling Stones interview, but this article is hardly the worst example - it's mostly unremarkable.

Not sure why it's got all these negative comments.


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(@emercycrite)
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Glad to read from many of the comments that I'm not the only one who thinks the quality of this site has really deteriorated. Perhaps one day the realization will hit that brand and quality dilution is not good for business.


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(@stuart-falk)
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@emercycrite I would add that the quality of Gary Leff's blog has also seriously deteriorated and more and more instead of being about frequent flyer/hotel points and offers, it has evolved into a forum for Gary's political views, which reflect his affiliation with the Mercatus Institute (heavily funded by the Koch Brothers to promulgate their libertarian economic biases).


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