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Eurowings Adds "Real" A320neo Business Class, A Rarity In Europe

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Business class on narrow body jets within Europe is known for being lackluster, generally just consisting of economy seats with blocked middles and improved service. A few months ago, a Lufthansa Group carrier announced it would install more comfortable seats in business class on narrow body aircraft. Ironically, it’s not a full service airline like…

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I guess you made a mistake. It’s 309,.. PLUS the extra few for the new Business Class seats. I‘ve tried it Last Week, booking a DXB flight in December. Called the helpline as well. The final few was around 1.560 eur.

The normal biz Class with Eurowings is a joke. Narrow seat, just with an empty middle seat.


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I don't see how this is a real business class when it doesn't even come with dedicated catering, just a choice of some crap from BOB menu. It's just large chairs, nothing else.


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(I'm with you on the food, but still better than the existing 3-3 blocked-middle...)


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@1990

While much of what you say is, I challenge you on quality of LH intra-Europe food service


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@alanz forgot about the roast goose!


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"It's just large chairs, nothing else."

More accurately: this is just you prioritizing soft product over hard product.

For others, it's different. I don't give a crap about airline food, I often don't even eat it on short-haul or medium-haul. I care a lot about personal space though. This is something I'd value way more than any meal or drink selection.


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But how does this give you "more personal space"? People in these seats are closer to each other than in "classic business".


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Measured in just one dimension you may be right. But that seems to be very one-dimensional.


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@Samo
This is especially valid for EW!
While they otherwise have a decent product for a LCC, their food is the worst airline food you can find anywhere in Europe! Just outright terrible.


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Woah! It's almost as if some airline executives (or their underlings) actually read travel blogs, including my incessant comments that the existing 3-3 middle-blocked intra-Europe 'business' class hard-product 'blows' and should not be called that; even if they do these recliners, which are indeed an upgrade, they're really more of a 'premium economy' (true-J is lie-flat, IMO). Good on Eurowings, if they actually pull this off. I note they didn't include the seat-back, so I presume no IFE/AVOD (BYOD continues). Complimentary WiFi, please.


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You keep mentioning the irony of a LCC introducing “real” J seats in intra Europe flights. If we turn the clock back a decade… JetBlue, also an LCC, was the first to introduce doors in J cabin!


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@ Aaron -- Hah, I hear you, JetBlue was definitely innovative. I wouldn't call JetBlue a traditional LCC, though, as the airline has always been more inclusive than the legacies, so I'd put the airline more in the "value carrier" category. I'd define an LCC as one with a business model that's largely about charging passengers fees, and having "a la carte" pricing, as they say.


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"You done messed up, A-A-Ron!" Just kidding. You got this one. 100%. B6 has actually been at the fore-front of many things; suites with doors, everything Mint, espresso based coffee, complimentary WiFi, IFE screens with live TV. Like, as far as on-board experience, they're really awesome and certainly not LCC territory (more 'premium leisure') and I hope they stick around to continue doing so. The issues they're facing now, financially, are bleeding into operational reliability, and that's really concerning. Just look on their recent subreddit. Yikes. Get it together.


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(@Cedric)
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It would make complete sense for medium-haul flights, as noted in your post. Adding more seat pitch to the 3/3 layout for intra-EU business would go a long way. I've had 10-12 such flights in the past 12 months, and the service has been mostly great (LHG); it's nice to have no one next to you, but legroom is always tight. None of my flights were over 2 hours, so it's not really an issue.


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I would take this business class product over what I've experienced in the last three years from a few different Eueopean carriers in their "business class" on intra-European routes. The food is pathetic and the hard product is economy class with economy class legroom.


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Actually on many planes in Europe, the front of the plane usually has a bit more legoom than the rest of the plane, even with the economy seats. Sometimes it goes until row 5, sometimes more.


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(@Julia)
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A proper business class seat between London and a couple of German cities is pretty cool.


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Germany to Dubai is serviced by Qatar with a 787 wide body jet with full recline qatar business suites...eurowings is still lackluster, if they do this on 2-3h flights nice, but THIS is not noteworthy tbh..
Using an a320 to dubai from germany is already something where I say, thanks, no....


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It depends on how you value your time. Not everyone will want to spend the extra time of transiting via Doha.


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(@Frederik)
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Looks very similar to Icelandair Saga business class seats sans the screen.


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(@David)
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The fact that this is coming to EW is very telling about future plans to roll this out to further LHG airlines. I doubt they will be doing this massive rollout if they wouldn’t have plans to bring this to LH etc.


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Having done more research into this, I realised this is just Eurowings redeploying the product from formerly planned Middle East routes that got cancelled/reduced because of war. So it's not actually any sort of a strategic decision, just an attempt to monetize planes they have no use for.


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EW started flying 1 (one!) A320neo on their Dubai routes in November '25. Initially they had only one aircraft refitted and it was said to be a test. When the clown and the criminal started to bring unrest to the Middle East those flights obviously got cancelled. However, the test of the few months obviously was positive so that they now decided to bring back more aircraft with those seats. If you're actually retrofitting those seats to more aircraft then it is not just redeploying planes they have no use for. In that respect it seems to be indeed a strategic decision.


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I think it is quite telling that EW - the "low cost" airline of the LH group - now has a better European business class product than LH itself.

Now LH will be introducing this to the mainline quite soon - let's say in a matter of 1 to 2 years as well. (That's when I woke up from sweet dreams - and had to think of the reality of new seats at LH)


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 W.W.
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Hopefully this will give other airlines with the typical 'EuroBusiness' seats, impetus to change and upgrade their business-class experience.


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