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Breeze Airways Flight Attendants Vote To Unionize

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Flight attendants at Breeze Airways have just voted to unionize, roughly three years after the airline launched…

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(@George Romey)
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In other words union management will live very well on members dues and do really nothing. Newsflash this is an airlines struggling to make it. Let's see how well the flight attendants do when the airline folds.


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(@Esther Lewis)
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Disappointing. I'll refrain from flying this airline in the future, hate unionis!


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Unions played an important role in advancing fair labor in the 20th century. Now they are a money-grabbing worthless endeavor that adds strain to employee relationships. Rather than having an honest conversation with 'management' it's straight to 100% escalation. If you don't think the company you work for treats you fair go somewhere else... I cant stand unions today. United pilots that walk off a wide-body with an 'over worked and under paid' lanyard on I just want to punch in the face.


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@ George Romey -- I'm a little confused. If you think the union will do "nothing" (in other words, not get a more generous contract), then how would that lead to the airline folding?


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(@Exit Row Seat)
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Not surprised pilots went union. That is a given!!

However, for 76.3% of FAs to vote union for a 3 year old airline, something must be amiss at Breeze. Either salary is too low, or mandatory attendance of college (on line) while working can be a burden. Also, failure to complete degree as a reason for dismissal is pushing labor relations law to the edge. Is the degree essential to perform the duties of an FA?

Doesn't matter to me. I live in one of their focus cities, and where they fly and their lack of frequency points me to one of the Big 4 airlines. Most folks in my city are not even aware of Breeze!!


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(@Paper Boarding Pass)
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@Ben

Since Breeze is not listed (public stock), it's not required to fully disclose (GAAP) its financials. OMAAT had a big write up of the cash flow at Breeze. If and when the airlines goes public (IPO), it will be required to bring its books in compliance with full disclosure with supplemental schedules. At that time, we'll get an idea where the cash is spent.


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(@Paper Boarding Pass)
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Sorry....I think it was VFTW....mea culpa !!!


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@ Paper Boarding Pass -- No, I think it was here. Is this the post you're referring to?
https://onemileatatime.com/news/breeze-airways-losing-money/


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(@Gentleman Jack Darby)
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Best to leave the accounting commentary to the accountants.

"GAAP" (Generally Accepted Accounting Principles) is a noun, not a verb.

Disclosure to the public, or the lack thereof, in the case of a closely-held (non-public) company doesn't mean that a company's financial statements don't follow GAAP. Most likely Breeze's financial statements do follow GAAP and are audited as well.

Simply because Breeze isn't required to make their financial statements public doesn't mean that the public should infer that there's anything wrong with their, as it was so quaintly put, "books" (accounting systems). "Books" don't comply with GAAP, financial statements do; and financial statements don't comply with disclosure requirements, companies do.


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(@Julia)
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"Now they are a money-grabbing worthless endeavor"

Not all unions. As with anything else, some are better than others.


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(@Barbarella)
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I don't see how this will prevent them from being acquired by Southwest (which apparently has its sights on their A220s, delivered and slots).

If anything theyll get better protection in case Southwest just wants the planes and none of the employees.


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(@ImmortalSynn)
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"which apparently has its sights on their A220s, delivered and slots"
"Southwest just wants the planes"

What is this based on?

Southwest indicating that they are actively looking at the A220 (or any fleet type other than the 737) would be headline news on every aviation website and publication out there. Yet that's not happening. So unless you have a citation of some kind, this sounds more like fantasy than reality.


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Diamond
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You sound like a completely serious and rational person........


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(@Esther Lewis)
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You sound like a petulant little brat... CONTINENTAL DISGRACE!!! I see what Darryl Stewart was talking about!


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@Julia, let's hope so for all involved. But my money's on the 'cos turbulence-induced' Candy Crush marathons beginning.


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(@Barbarella)
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(@Barbarella)
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Have you checked Leeham News recently?
They have an article on that specifically and they are usually well informed.

I have a comment that's still in moderation limbo probably because it had a link to the article in it. So trying without the link to see if it goes through


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Diamond
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SouthWest scrum for seats on a 2-3 plane like the A220 will be even more punchy than on their usual 3-3 airframes.


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Diamond
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LOL, a blog... offering pure supposition... derived from a meeting by OEM teams (that's a near annual thing between Airbus and Southwest, just like between Boeing and Delta) with zero knowledge of what was said, done, or transacted?

So in other words, still no source. Figured, but thought I'd ask anyway. 🙂


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Diamond
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How about an actual news source?


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(@Paper Boarding Pass)
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So the new name will be:

"SouthwestBreeze"
or
"SouthwestAzul"
or
"AzulWest"


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(@Barbarella)
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Yeah it's a rumour, but employees at Breeze hear rumours as well and that helps give more context as to why the employees decided to unionize.

Now, about your aggressive and entitled attitude, I'm a bit surprised as there was no such animosity in my message. I hope you soon fix whatever seems to be amiss in your life so you don't need to go online to vent it on strangers. Take care


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