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Breeze Airways Considers A220 Flights To Europe

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Could Breeze Airways become the first airline to operate the Airbus A220 on transatlantic flights? It seems like it’s at least being considered.

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(@Klaus)
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Do they want to fly TO Europe or WITHIN Europe?


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 Bo
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Breeze first class on the A220 will be called "Nicest." Nice is the standard economy seat. Nicer is the extra leg room economy seat.


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(@derek)
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A220 range is limited so I would only expect Boston, Hartford, and New York to UK, Norway, Benelux, and Northern France.

I wonder if Stavanger may need service. MAN, BHX, LCY, BRU are possible. I doubt Stavanger Houston with a technical stop in Gander is in the cards.


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 Mark
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They wouldn't be allowed to fly within Europe as an American Airline


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(@Harry K)
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Hey Breeze. Manchester NH airport (MHT) is sitting there with plenty of capacity, just an hour from Boston, and with an auxiliary terminal with customs capability. (Was used by Air Canada for Toronto service.) Could make a great low-cost European gateway.


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(@James S)
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Providence to 3 cities in Portugal, you heard it here first


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 Nick
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Tampa to Guatemala


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(@Eskimo)
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When will airlines learn that they make a lot more money flying 3x 2 hours flight than 1x 6 hour flight across the ocean.


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(@Eskimo)
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Providence to 3 cities in UK, you heard it here first.


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 JB
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Maybe Manchester to Boston? Or flights from Glasgow and Birmingham, all of which have undeserved direct service from the U.S.


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(@John T)
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Boston to Manchester was my first thought.


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 Milo
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Boston to Liverpool, sponsored by Fenway Sports Group. One plane with Red Sox livery, another with LFC livery.


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(@SubwayNut)
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Service from my home airport of South Bend to somewhere in Ireland, giving the fighting Irish a direct link to their motherland.


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(@Stuart)
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The airport in the U.S. that intrigues me the most as a potential for massive growth in the future is New Haven, CT. It is, in actuality, the largest metro area (when including Stamford and Bridgeport) in CT. and offers Tri-State travelers (many of which are wealthy train commuters to NYC) a viable option closer to home and with less traffic. A rebranding of the airport to be Tri-State International Airport and marketing to this area with people tired of going to Bradley, La Guardia, or JFK could, eventually in a few decades, result in the 4th largest airport in the region. For Breeze, it would be a natural to launch these flights to London Gatwick etc.


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(@Mangiafica)
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Bristol to New York


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 KK13
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1. Nice to Miami
2. Barcelona to Orlando
3. Brussels to Charlotte
4. Vienna to Tampa ….


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(@shoeguy)
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This is hilarious. Perhaps they will merge with Avelo and fly Santa Rosa-Barcelona 7 times daily.


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 Rob
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BHX should be filling out the forms right now. That place might be UKs second city but being stuck between LON and MAN has really hindered its connectivity when only larger jets could be used in the past!


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(@John Luffred)
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LOL.
SERIOUSLY.
STICK TO DOMESTIC.
THEY CANT GET THAT RIGHT!


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(@Tim Dunn)
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The A220 is an incredible airplane but talk of Breeze flying TATL routes is typical Neeleman ADD.


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 BG
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Norfolk, VA to Norfolk, UK?

Jokes aside, I’d be happy if ORF went to the islands, Mexico, or Canada.


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(@KingBob)
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This article is primarily about them flying to Europe but it also mentions them possibly flying to the Caribbean. There is a complete lack of flights to the French islands of Martinique and Guadeloupe and what AA charges is outrageous.


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(@Apso Eyot)
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Delta’s apparently gone from the route without any announcement, so now’s the chance for BOS-MAN!


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(@Apso Eyot)
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They should add some flights to popular European destinations from Portland and other cities in Maine since it’s the closest part of the US to Europe (meaning more route flexibility) and not yet flown by any airlines. Better yet, operate a scissor hub there where people from across the US can connect onto their European flights.


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 Aman
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Breeze has a disruptive cost structure and super efficient low capacity A220. If they can find niched city pairs within the operating range of the A220, I can see it working.
Other LCCs tried to compete with legacy carriers on trunk routes or offered inconvenient transits which required them to undercut legacy carriers and sell tickets at unsustainable prices.
Breeze should stay clear from this and remain true to their business model.


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Diamond
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It’s England’s 2nd city, not the UK’s.


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Norwich (Norfolk’s county town) has 3 flights a day from Amsterdam, but very few other international connections.

Though I’m not sure a route from/to Norfolk VA would be where I’d invest my money. 🙂


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 Rob
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Source please, by population it is UKs second city...?


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(@Guillaume)
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@The nice Paul, I'm not sure you've ever been to Norfolk, VA, but you should know that the ever-growing and evolving ORF is planning a sizeable expansion to include a new terminal to serve that market of nearly 2M people. As you know, Breeze has chosen ORF as one of its hubs, so perhaps they have more confidence in that market than you do. I'd bet on Neeleman's judgment any day, no offense. So, I wouldn't be surprised if this happened at ORF at some point, especially given the NATO presence and various international shipping conglomerate NA HQs located there...YMMV.


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 Grey
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I have a hard time imagining this working. The primary costs on these long flights is usually taxes and airport fees. When the mainline carriers often offer routes between big cities for 3-500 EUR return, it is extremely difficult to imagine how they could offer a product that is more enticing and still make a profit with around 120 pax. I mean, people are surely willing to pay a bit more for a nonstop, but I am sceptical that it would be enough to make it worthwhile. Happy to be proven wrong though...


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Diamond
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Population is not the measure (until the end of the imperial era, Glasgow was always referred to as “the second city of Empire”).

In any case, population is tough to measure — is it the central core, the city, the metropolitan area, the TTW area…? Should Manchester include Salford? Should London include Croydon or Bromley?

Reminds me of the old joke. People in a number of cities were asked which was England’s 2nd city:
— the people of Manchester said Manchester;
— the people of Birmingham said Birmingham;
— the people of Liverpool said London.


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(@Chance)
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Avelo will lock up New Haven


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(@Chance)
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The article says the range is 3,400 miles. Airbus specs say the A220-300 has range of 6,297 KM which is about 3,900 miles. That's probably with standard tanks. It's been reported that MX is lobbying Airbus for extra fuel tanks which would give even greater range.


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Diamond
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You think they’ll fly between Norfolk VA and Norfolk England?!?!


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(@Yes Please)
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Norfolk PLEASE!!!!! Imagine flights from ORF to MAD, AMS or CDG?


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(@Stanley Morris)
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Someday an airline will get the message that older folks like shorter routes and will fly from St. Johns, Newfoundland to the Azores, the shortest way from North America to Europe.


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(@Chris Childs)
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CWL needs this type of service back.
Since losing Zoom years ago.
Contact Cardiff Wales Airport


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 Andy
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Perhaps Boston - Basle. Cambridge MA hosts Novartis' research HQ, Basle the corporate HQ. Also other Basle based pharmaceutical firms have large operations in the Boston area.


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(@Miguel Santos)
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There is an underserved market to be explored out of the Azores, Portugal, regarding Terceira island, which is set in the central group of the Azores, composed of 5 islands, besides Terceira, there is Graciosa, S. Jorge, Pico and Faial. There is a large azorean immigrant community in the US and Canada. From Terceira there is a large community in the S. Francisco / Oakland area.
Over the years, several important links have been dropped atTerceira island`s airport LPLA/TER which is one of the best facilities in the atlantic. It is used by the USAF as a transit point, has cib«vilian certification and is the approved diversion point for any kind of emergencies in the Santa Maria FIR.
Presently, only Azores Airlines flies from Terceira to Boston and Toronto using A321Neo a/c but this capacity is not enough.
We feel that Breeze could snatch a fair share of the market from the US east coast together with a convenient link to Oakland.


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(@Ana de Oliveira)
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I just flew from Norfolk to Hartford this Thanksgiving week - very pleased with everything and it was wonderful to fly direct (55 minutes) simply amazing.
I am hoping that Portugal makes the list for European countries.


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(@OHMEU)
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"Providence to Portugal"
With a huge Portuguese community living within 30 minutes from TF Green airport, it's a no brainer not to try and get Non-stop flights from Providence to Azores, Lisbon, Porto, or and Faro.


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(@Denis Rourke)
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Boston to Manchester UK. Manchester will be the connection to all of Europe.


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