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Baggage Handler Falls Asleep In Airplane Cargo Hold, Wakes Up Inflight

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I’m not sure whether to be surprised that this happened, or be surprised that this doesn’t happen more often…

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 Ray
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Alarming security issue if you ask me. This time around, it was harmless. Next up, you could be smuggling a person or worse.


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(@Ramp Stupidvisor)
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When I worked as a “ramp stupidvisor” for American in LAX, there were two baggage handlers that got locked into the cargo hold of a 757. They banged on the walls/ceiling and the aircraft didn’t take off and returned to the gate. Perpetrators were “fired” but got their jobs back through grievance process. Hated that job. Left LAX and the ramp.


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(@Always Flying Somewhere)
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I don't know how any sober Ramp Agent could fall asleep considering all the activity during a turn. As an LCC narrow-body, I'd expect it to have a short ground time, so I'm not sure when you'd have a moment to curl up and close your eyes. This is safety and security issue.


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(@Eskimo)
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Climate control cargo hold vs Mumbai pollution and heat?

Not surprised if anyone would fall asleep in it.

Now that's what I call sleeping on the job can take you places.


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 MD
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The guy should be lucky he wasn't in the forward two cargo holds on a MD-80 - he would have arrived in Abu Dhabi as an icicle


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 Doug
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I predict we will find that he intentionally hid in the cargo hold, but then fell asleep during the flight and was caught upon arrival. He probably was hoping he could hop another airline at Abu Dhabi, or he might have family he was trying to visit.


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(@Never In Doubt)
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Intentionally hid, or drunk/otherwise impaired.

Nobody does that “accidentally”.


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(@Kylie P)
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Wouldn't he die due to lack of oxygen or freezing temps?


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(@Europhile)
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Reminds me of the guy who got so drunk he passed out on the tracks of an active railroad line. A train went over him and -- because he was so drunk and unconscious -- he didn't wake up until the train had passed. He was unharmed. If he had not been so drunk be likely would have panicked, tried to move, and gotten killed. This was reported several years ago.


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 SS
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Considering the steep fares currently on the BOM-DXB sector plus the pre departure RTPCR and the expensive Rapid PCR tests this was probably the best option for him to land in UAE! Unlike western countries the UAE do not take other peoples problems on their shoulders so they just put him back on the next flight to BOM.


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(@Shaheed Hasan)
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Come on people..give him a benefit of doubt. Before making all kinds of complecated theories, think it straight. There could be a very simple explanation.. HE DID FALL IN SLEEP.


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(@Victoria M)
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Do cargo holds have oxygen? How would you survive…I thought only the ones for animals were survivable.


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 Tia
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When luggage is loaded, it does not always come in 1 stream. People drop off luggage at different times too. A tik tok video showed how they work, arranging luggage like puzzles and there is a time in between that is just waiting for more luggage to come. He Probably dosed off in between...


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(@Dan Berend)
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The cargo holds are pressurized just the same as the cabin. Think of it like a scuba tank with a flimsy floor separating the upper and lower sections. They can get significantly cooler though because of little or no insulation.


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(@Jacob)
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As an ex operations agent for Delta, he was lucky to be in the “conditioned” cargo hold. On most aircraft one of the holds is pressurized and heated and the others are not. That hold is used for transporting animals, not usually persons!


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(@Colfen)
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A total lack of safety procedures.
Should be procedures for loading and unloading. Where was the workers supervisor. There are many reasons why this could have happened.


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(@Bekzod Kholmakhamatov)
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Wife: where have you been last night!
Husband: in Abu Dhabi.


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(@SUNNY)
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Hey! These aren't the upgrades I paid for!
Where's the good seats????


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(@Aviator)
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I have worked with baggage handlers. They get paid minimum wages... sometimes have to pay for their own background checks... getting to the airport usually takes a minimum of an hour and a half. Then they try to do a double or a triple shift to make it worth it for them. Well if there is a delay and it's raining outside they may just be tempted to close their eyes after loading the bags.


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(@Jim Wall)
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I loaded planes for 35 years, and it is very easy to doze off. The APU is like white noise, the bin is often warm and the air a little "stuffy". If it is summer, and you have been going from flight to flight, fatigue sets in. And often, you end up inside the bin waiting for last minute things to load,or between loads. Maybe those last items do not arrive, the flight departure is minutes away, and everyone is hustling to close up the doors and push on time. The assumption might be all members of the team are required to stay with the plane. We may have had 4, or 5 rampers for a flight, but only 3 are needed for the pushback. All too often the slackers would drift off to the breakroom or need to use the bathroom 5 minutes before the plane pushed,and never resurface. So the idea of a headcount is not realistic.
One other possibility- the sleeper might well be the laziest person on the team, and his coworkers have been doing the lions share of the work while he showed up late and left early for flights, and even while there did the barest minimum, often dozing off in one bin while everyone else loaded the other bin. Someone might have been fed up and just closed the bin door, hoping to scare him, or someone doing a walk around saw the door open and no belt loader present and closed the door and moved on.
I worked with 1 guy who worked as many extra shifts as he could. He could pull a belt loader up waiting for a 757 to taxi in, fall asleep sitting there, and sleep thru the plane taxiing up the J line to the gate.


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(@Shawn)
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For a flight out of India the cargo hold is the good seats.


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(@Brianair737)
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He wouldn’t because the cargo holds are normally pressurized (at least on Indigo’s planes which are all A320 family). That’s why he walked off the plane in Abu Dhabi perfectly fine.


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(@Carlos Ahaka)
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Chai...what a funny trip. He should be medically examined properly, because it looks very strange.


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(@Born in Brooklyn)
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It's not quite the same but at large New York fires, the command post has a magnetic board and individual magnets for each fire fighter assigned to the fire. When one is assigned to go inside, the magnet is moved to show where they've been sent. When they come out, it's moved out. That's how they assure that no one is ever left behind or unaccounted for. I assume something similar is practiced at fire departments around the world.


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(@Brian Dunbar)
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Doesn't make sense. Someone has to do up the netting in a bulk loaded aircraft and that is usually the guy that is in the hold. The lead hand gives the word to close it up. If someone else went up to do up the netting and close the door, they would have to see them. I always knew where my crew members were so I have never understood how this happens.


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(@Rey Aquino)
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1. Send sniffing dog to check.
2. Sound a 140 dB siren before closing the door.
3. Charge the offending employee a round-trip fare. (with employee discount)
4. Don’t let sleepy or drunk employee to work in that area.
5. Fire the employee’s supervisor for mismanagement.


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(@Cynthia pittman)
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Email me I was a director for fedex's ramp for years I can tell you exactly how this can happen and how it should never happen [email protected]


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 Erik
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This is probably the most ignorant comment I show here. But then again pretty much many who haven’t travelled to Asia generally lacks any credibility of an opinion on such topic.For somebody who has flown to india many times both for business and leisure, I can more then assure you there are many comfy flights and in part Indigo is one airline which is leagues ahead of many LCC/ULCC in US and Europe


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(@Marty)
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Can't fix stupid.


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(@Bob Danley)
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Rampers will cat nap in the bins. Sometimes you have everything done. and you're waiting for the close out bags to get to the airplane....so it's snooze time. I've never heard of this instance before though. It's dangerous. Not sure about every aircraft type, but on some of them only the forward bin is pressurized. Fall asleep in the aft bin. and you likely won't make it. Still...a ramp team is usually four or five people (Allegiant uses three). So if someone isn't accounted for at push back time you'd know it.


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(@Bob Danley)
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Well put. Seen these things happen too.


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 Drew
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But he flew for free!


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