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Azores Airlines Is In Financial Trouble

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Last summer I had the chance to fly Azores Airlines from Boston to Ponta Delgada to Lisbon. Azores Airlines is a cute little airline that uses the Azores as a connecting point between North America and mainland Europe. They also allow free stopovers in the Azores, which is an awesome opportunity, since the islands are…

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(@erick schmitt)
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Unless the territory / government is a major creditor, seems like it would be sensible to let the company go bankrupt and start a new, more efficient airline with a better fleet. The cost of any layoffs / economic disruption would be less than the additional money poured down the hole.


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(@EvenSteven)
Joined: 9 years ago

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How unlikely would it be that TAP lobbies the govt so that Azores goes bankrupt and TAP takes over the routes to the Azores?


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 Tim
(@Tim)
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Looks like OAK flights will be on the HiFly A340 this summer


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 AL
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Shocker!


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(@Mauricio Matos)
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They want to be bigger than they should. The company plays an important role connecting the 9 islands in the azores. That part of the company will always exist because it has to, even if the local government pays the bill. Now....when it comes to connecting the Azores with mainland Portugal, they have the competition of TAP and also Ryanair. And on their transatlantic routes (Boston and Toronto), they used to be the only direct option from Portugal. Now TAP flies to both cities. So yes, I'm pretty sure they are in trouble.


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 Mark
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They need to limit frequency to North America. Their sad version of Business Class
is always filled with employees.
Get rid of the high-paid flight attendants who enjoy 4 night stays on a North American trip.
The Portuguese government can't bail them out - any loans are already going to pay the fat-cats at TAP.


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(@mikeb-2)
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Is SATA and Azores Airlines the same company? I flew SATA to Boston from the Azores once ... definitely disorganized


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(@Mauricio Matos)
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@Mike B

Yes, it's the same company. They just use the SATA name for their inter island service and use the Azores Airlines name for their connections to mainland Portugal and for their flights to the U.S. and Canada.


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(@Bob A)
Joined: 8 years ago

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Flew a trip in March from BOS to PDL and onward to Horta. Excellent results: the new A321NEO is a great airplane, cabin service was superior to US carriers on a transatlantic flight, easy connections at PDL to the Dash8 Q400s that run interisland flights for SATA. Efficient ops despite tough weather and winds. I wish them luck. Small fleets can be a challenge to keep tourists happy and on time. Mechanical problems are inevitable. Folks should stop complaining and be glad that this airline exists. Perish the thought that Ryanair will dominate with their extra fees and tight seat pitch !


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(@Anton K von Haag)
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2019 has not brought any improvements. The planes are new, the results are the same - long delays and endless cancellations. The situation of SATA/Azores Airlines is becoming a national scandal with a Portuguese news hour recently focused on their problems. Unpredictable weather and challenging airports are issues beyond their control. But there is obviously poor and possibly corrupt management, political cronyism, as well as pilot and flight attendant unions that strike repeatedly, year after year. These strikes - legal and otherwise - occur during the height of the tourist season when there are no other seats available in this monopolistic environment. Visitors' trips are delayed for days or even cancelled all together. I doubt TAP, or any other carrier, would be interested in taking on nightmare.


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(@Helena Morgado)
Joined: 7 years ago

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SATA Azores is a nightmare,never ever will flight on this company!!


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(@TheRealNotoriousBTC)
Joined: 6 years ago

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Problem with the Portuguese airline industry is the unions they have. The unions have this mentality that they run Portugal, even above the governments. The unions call the shots with these rolling strikes etc... In the past 5 years I have traveled to Ponta Delgada (PDL) from Toronto Canada 5 times in the month of August for 5 years in a row. I have only flown in Azores airlines twice, the rest of the times were rented airlines from Spain. Pilots and aircrew are always on strike, so they need to rent aircraft's because AA is grounded. What Portugal needs to do is put these unions in place and let them know it is the government with the agreement of the people of Portugal that run Portugal, not the unions. I have been in the union all my working life. I come from labour unions Local 183 and then local 27. If my unions were to tell when to go on strike and when not to go I'd see its all a game to them and they would lose my support in an instant, and I am not afraid to stand up for myself against these bully unions. I am for unions but not these Portuguese awful unions who don't care about they're members, companies, or even country. These kind of unions need to bullied out of Portugal.


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