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Avelo Air Brings Airline Service Back To Delaware

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Ultra low cost carrier startup Avelo Air has just announced it's setting up a base in Wilmington, Delaware, and this is noteworthy for one major reason. Delaware is the only state without commercial air service Delaware is currently the only state in the United States without commercial air service. While Wilmington Airport (ILG) has an…

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(@Jayayess1190)
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Delaware Valley is Southeastern PA (Philly), not Southwestern.


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(@jackg)
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You probably mean Southeastern PA, right? Little far to drive over from Pittsburgh.

Great news for the area!


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 MG
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The ease and convenience will be nice, but with PHL being 19 miles away, who knows if they too will survive here.


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(@alonzo)
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Anyone who has lived in the area like myself, knows this is great news. Especially with PHL being an absolute train wreck dumpster fire.


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(@Janice)
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I would love it if they would go from Wilmington, Delaware to New Haven, Connecticut!!!


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(@Eskimo)
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Always wondered, wouldn't Trenton be a better alternative than Wilmington?


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(@monopod)
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Perhaps with multiple rail options to get to Philly and connect to PHL, air service is just not needed.

(You still have to backtrack from PHL into downtown before changing train out to Delaware, easily adding 30 min to the trip. Sounds like some easy service improvement here.)


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(@Icarus)
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When there’s another major airport 30 mins away it is ridiculous, especially for environmental reasons.

Wilmington is 50kms from Philadelphia. There’s no need for a commercial airport.

Birmingham is 150kms from London and there are trains, buses and rail.


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(@Linda)
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They are only offering flights to places not many really travel to in my opinion. I travel to Texas at least three times a year and because I don’t care for either Philly or Baltimore with all the layovers you have to have in order to get a good deal on tickets so we drive. It would be nice to go from Delaware to Texas but that’s just me.


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 MG
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Frontier has that little airport stuffed with flights I believe.


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(@chasgoose)
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Yet Birmingham still has a bustling international airport that was servicing over 12 million passengers annually before the pandemic...

It would be one thing if Avelo was offering flights to PHL or BWI or even DCA, but they aren't. Also, Avelo wouldn't be starting these flights if they didn't think the area had a market to support these new flights in addition to the ones already available from PHL/BWI to the announced destinations. Unless these flights go out empty or cannibalize enough passengers so that existing flights go out empty, I don't really see the environmental impact issue. If it attracts people closer to ILM that would have driven further to PHL/BWI, then wouldn't it cause those people to drive less to get to the airport?

Also, the US doesn't have the infrastructure for trains/buses to be a feasible way of getting from the Delaware Valley region to Florida for most people.


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(@Never In Doubt)
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"especially for environmental reasons”

Nonsense.

You can’t be referring to the flights. No different environmental impact than if they flew from PHL (maybe less if ground time is shorter).

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt you’re referring to getting to the airport. How could you possibly know the ground travel patterns of the people who’d choose this airport vs BWI, PHL or others?


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(@Never In Doubt)
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“in my opinion” and “that’s just me” are my favorite kinds of statistical analysis!

I love when OMAAT randos think they know better than professional airline schedulers.


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Frontier has seemed to make TTN work. Decent amount of frequencies, destinations, an employment base, etc. What used to be 4-5x weekly service to MCO is now 2x daily. Just need a new terminal...


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 Evan
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And I love it when Never In Doubt takes time out of his busy schedule to clutter up the comments further.

Keep up the good fight, NID. Someday you'll vanquish every wayward commenter.


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 Evan
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Eskimo, certainty TTN doesn't work for the Delaware Valley crowd that lives south of the Philadelphia metro.

PHL and ILG are very close to each other, but they could serve different people the same way DCA and BWI serve different people.


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(@Scott)
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I'm surprised you didn't mention ILG also having appeal to Northeastern Maryland residents. The combined populations of Harford County (with growing Bel Air, MD) and Cecil County are 350,000. For most of these people, Wilmington would be the same or less travel time than reaching BWI. Add that to the other areas you mentioned, and there's a pretty decent catchment area for this airport.


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(@Chris P Bacon)
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Yet here you are, following up on NID's comments.

It's fair game when someone makes a comment that they don't think people fly from the Philadelphia area to Orlando, Tampa, Fort Lauderdale, and Fort Myers. They have clearly surrendered all credibility.


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(@Confused)
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You drive to Texas because of layovers required out of Philly and Baltimore? Philadelphia has non-stop service to Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio. BWI offers service to most major cities as well.


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(@Confused)
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Avelo does also service ILM but we're talking about ILG here, no?


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(@CHRIS)
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Why all Florida destinations? Spread it around. I think there would be much interest in New Orleans, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Memphis, Chicago, San Antonio and maybe a mid western city, like St Louis. I think you have to look at Philly flights and maybe pluck some routes where there are connections and make a market for non stop, an example might be Key West nonstop as competitors all require you to go through a hub.


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(@DELDEN F. MILLER)
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Personally I think it's great rather than fighting traffic and when you get there the long lines and being late for a flight ✈️ a ways from 4oclock am 5 it's crazy good luck to you


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 Evan
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Mr. Bacon, I view it as my special mandate to troll a troll from time to time. Thanks for understanding.


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(@Sonja)
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Avelo coming to Delaware would be Great!!! I believe if they advertise on a consistent basis they will be successful, also if they expand there destinations other than Florida that would be even better. As a resident of De. I'm so looking forward to the addition.


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(@Eskimo)
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@Evan, I know it captures the Delaware Valley crowd, but from an airline stand point, TTN serves a much larger market right?
DCA isn't a good comparison to me because of it's capacity vs demand mismatch. If you switch DCA and BWI size, then airlines likely wouldn't bother flying to BWI more than into RDU or CLE. It's like EWR without UA located at SWF.


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(@Charlene)
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Commercial Flights much needed for Delaware; hoping the start of flights to Florida will lead to flights to other destinations in the US.


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