ANA Boeing 787s Get New Cabins, "The Room FX" Business Class

Those economy seats looks really terrible. They look like what you would expect on frontier.

Maybe they should retrofit the 777's with the ancient seats that feature iPod inputs first?

You get what you pay for.

One thing I can appreciate is that they're consistent for the most part in terms of hard product where JAL has multiple products even on a single type. The only gripe I would have with them along with JAL would be the number of configurations.

I wonder what their plans are for the -8s as the cradle seats are uncompetitive.

As for the -10s, just like SQ and BR, the staggered seats are perfectly adequate on the majority of the routes they're on.

These are the same model seats that you would get on QF, SQ, CX, JL, KL among other carriers. The only difference would be the cushions and covers, finish and trim along with IFE vendor. The "seat structure" would be the same with each airline customizing it to their spec.

But I agree that there are other seats out there that look way better.

I am waiting for the upgrade to the 787-8 business class. These are terrible.

Guessing this isn't going to happen. Instead, I speculate that these jets will just be relegated exclusively to intra-Asia business class.

Guessing those jets will be retired once the 777-9s come online anyway.

Nice to see they keep the 33-34" pitch - everyone else goes to 30" or below when they upgrade...scratch that - renew Economy seating.

They have the staggered seats along with the cradle seats. It's a given that the frames with the staggered seats are used on intercontinental flights, while the cradle seats are limited to low-yield intra-Asia routes. And 4 frames are bound for Air Japan with possibly more down the line.

So do they plan to upgauge those routes with the-9 or keep it status quo with the -8?

At the very least, I can see them harvesting the staggered seats on the -9 and installing them on the -8 while getting rid of the cradle seats on the 787 altogether.

Here’s hoping they put proper shades on the windows. Those dimmer windows do not reflect heat, making seats on the sun side really hot.

The current 787 business class seats are not "perfectly comfortable." They are terribly tight and uncomfortable. I would actively avoid them.

Agree. Combined with ANA turning on the lights at 4am to serve a soggy breakfast I’d prefer to avoid them when I can.

Wife and daughter flew the new cabin from HND to Chicago last year and it was amazing but the old product is very tired. I remember being very excited to fly it in about 2015.

Yes we loved The Room!

Yes, they look REAL thin and hard. Yeah, no.

The craddle seats are fixed stables on the Singapore and Bangkok routes. They are also swapped in on Sydney and Vancouver from time to time. So they go quite far.