Air New Zealand blamed 'sickness' for a canceled SFO-Auckland flight, but reports point to an altercation between two pilots during their layover.
The rumours point towards a political issue and if the two pilots really got into a personal argument about something like that , both should be assessed carefully, if they are still fit to fly.
Just a fast decline of another airline.
Realistically to run a govt owned airline effectively with a population of 5 million is nearly impossible unless you have oil revenue 😁.
Air France pilots do this, too: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62712278
This doesn’t sound like the New Zealand they advertise on the TV, nice calm and polite 😂
What's really an embarassing situation for Air New Zealand is that herringbone business class cabin. That looks absolutely miserable.
It looks more like Premium Economy on a city bus. No way I would fly J on those guys.
@uldguy, what are you talking about. That's the latest cutting edge business class... in 2002! Seriously, it was a game changer at the time.
So, "crew resource management (CRM)" is mentioned, and the Air New Zealand’s Chief Safety and Risk Officer's name is, ironically, Nathan. But, no one is yet to mention... Season 2 of The Rehearsal, where Nathan Fielder officially became a pilot in furtherance of addressing this issue, sorta.
This sort of foolishness should result in passenger compensation substantially beyond a free hotel night.
Hilarious and crazy (in a sullen way).
This is a fascinating story. We all have to work with people who are challenging to get along with. To escalate a disagreement to a level where (presumably) one could lose their job always raises eyebrows. I would love more details and this is a great teachable moment for all of us.
If reports are to be believed, then this was juvenile behaviour over a petty issue. Are these the types you want piloting your 787?
A 1972 air crash in the UK happened after the two pilots had a heated argument over union matters. After takeoff the captain had a heart attack and the copilot lost control of the plane.
Relief crew? One or two? If two, fly the bird to HNL to get passengers on their way. Go from there.
Is there a difference to customer compensation between no pilots available vs 2 knucklehead pilots?
Squabbling hobbits.
What an embarrassing way to let the world know you're not actually a professional.
On Australian news/social media...it got physical and therefore they were both suspended.
Hey @1990_
They argued over union.
Union causes they delay.
The one who will come out without any punishment is the one who is best buddies with the leader even if that person punched the other pilot.
But I agree that EU261 is needed to cover human error, crew stupidity, or any power trips.
Hi @Eskimo. No, Ben correctly stated that the 'flight was canceled due to lack of pilots being able to work the scheduled service.' That falls on the airline. Under an EU261-style rule, whatever individual interpersonal issues those pilots had are irrelevant to the fact that the carrier failed to operate its scheduled flight. As for labor representation, a dispute between two crew members is an internal management/HR issue, not an indictment of collective bargaining as a whole. Also, wow, nine years and 6,298 comments as 'Guest'? If only you'd registered by now...
I hope none of the passengers had a cruise to catch or an important meeting to make. That senseless layover could have been critical to someone.
Gross stupidity and a huge dose of immaturity. Back to training in the 172’s fella’s.
What is really embarrassing is how poorly the business class is laid out on this plane!