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Found this on a Guardian article :
Findings from the wreckage suggest the flaps and other control surfaces were correctly configured for takeoff, indicating the flight crew followed standard procedures, the newspaper said, citing investigators.
The report comes a day after India’s aviation regulator, the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA), said its own inspections found no “major safety concerns” in the Dreamliner fleet but did flag recurring maintenance issues.
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Other than mechanical issue due to poor maintenance causing both engines to go off, which is very odd and rare to happen. Another cause I can think of is that some bad Boeing software update caused the engines to shut.
The FADEC is updated regularly on aircrafts. The 787 FADEC is designed to shut down an engine if it detects conditions that would make continued operation unsafe or impossible, such as loss of fuel control, critical system faults, or catastrophic electrical/software failure
Eve, not wishing to sound pedantic, however, I must request to which “Guardian” are you referring?
South Wales Guardian?
Nigerian Guardian?
Guardian Series?
Perhaps post the website link?
The articles today about the sole survivor laying his brother to rest are heartbreaking. Kept trying to go back to the crash site to save his brother until someone got him to a hospital so he could receive medical care. Just awful. Air India needs to provide him with free mental health care for the rest of his life.
try google. It's a useful search engine. The Guardian is very well known in the UK and globally. A real Brit wouldn't be asking if it's the "south wales Guardian".
Your fake profile is amusing but poorly researched.
FYI Plane Jane; he/she/it has multi fake profiles, commenting all over OMAAT like a rabid dog....
Well, the corrupt airline could give a shit about his overall mental well being.
One can see that the children are back again, playing their infantile games, posting false news and using multiple login accounts.
Poor, poor dears, they think that they are being so clever yet they are forever demonstrating their pathetic ignorance.
Thank you for the entertainment numpties.
@plane jane:
Yeah. I thought that question about which guardian was rather dumb as well.
Also...
"Poor, poor dears, "
are you a writer from Peter Pan or the 19th century British rom-com? this is the lamest attempt at a british voice ever from a user that has claimed to be a retiree and a fresh young thing at the same time.
This reeks of Tim Dunn's extreme mental issues. To include Aero's immediate look to VPN usage to explain his placement in past posts.
You'll notice they rarely reply to one another but post on the same time zone and around the same time zones
You lamely attempt to write like Beatrix Potter or Jane Austin but always end up in the echo chamber of Tim Dunn and on his time zone. Posting about Delta and Airbus as the penultimate of aviation like no one else does... except Mr Dunn.
Get a life. This is sad. Truly sad.
You writing three back to back comments to attack someone with zero evidence isn't equally sad or unhinged?
Might be
But it’s a comment section on an aviation blog
No one is posting here because they think it matters
Just noting a fake user
Aero, when somebody says Guardian, they are very likely referring to the Guardian. They are in the same league as NYT WSJ WaPo. Their name is recognized and renowned in journalism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian
I wonder however if it will cause a shut down given the parameters of a takeoff..one would guess that it might cause a shutdown during in flight, etc. however not at V1/V2, etc. Just a complete guess on my part. I have no idea to be honest.
Dear Plain Jane, your unbalanced posts tell us more about you personally than anything else. From them one can see that you are obviously a compulsive, obsessive individual of limited intellectual capacity.
It is difficult for us to distinguish between your obsession for Tim Dunn or for me. We are not flattered. Your inability to tell the difference between us is a clear indication of your lack of intelligence darlink.
You think that you can determine that our posts are from one and the same person, however, you are unable to grasp that at least one of us is regularly travelling between different time zones and that we reside on totally different continents. One is clearly English, whilst the other undoubtedly not so.
Furthermore, despite being ridiculed for not being able to grasp the fact that all posts are recorded with Ben’s Eastern timestamp, you choose to belittle yourself by ignoring the facts. A further indication of your stubbornness and incompetence.
Plain Jane, you need to get real lass (if you are indeed female?), grow up and move on with your life. The film Fatal Attraction comes to mind, could you really be as attractive as Glenn Close? …. somehow I doubt it, furthermore, most importantly, you couldn’t afford me darlink …. by the way I cannot speak for Tim.
Stalking dearie, is hardly conducive to good mental health, don’t you know?
@Plane Jane - I don't think that Aero is Tim Dunn, but his tone is for real disgusting
Eve, thank you so much for indulging me by sharing the link to the UK Guardian ‘viewspaper’. One is interested to read all views on the subject air incident.
Please be advised that to discerning UK newspaper readers, the Guardian is hardly renowned for its unbiased journalism, hence my question. One would have been ill advised to assume that you were referring to a UK ‘viewspaper’ on a predominantly U.S. airline blog, yes?
Get a life Aero, it is clear you know nothing just like how you know nothing about Middle East. Here I was imagining you will stay out of politics, nope, your ego is sooo up yourself that you are taking pot shots and bringing politics at the same time into a conversation about a purely aviation related topic. DO BETTER mate, because you are acting like a little kid
You cannot be serious Eve?
Sadly, I cannot “DO BETTER mate”, I have not been “Bringing politics” into any conversation with you dear. Surely, it is you who is “Acting like a little kid”, much in the same vein as the pathetic stalker Plain Jane.
I took the trouble to thank you for providing the link to the article you referenced and all I get in response is your childish rhetoric. Quite pathetic …. birds of a feather!
Figure out who you are, Aero, then come back to us.
Are you a retiree or a young person? You've said both in your own posts spaced a week or so apart.
I'm aware of how timezones work. Thanks. You don't seem able to and also seem to have no idea about major UK-based newspapers despite claims to be a Brit. In fact, your own reply seemed incredibly ignorant about one of the biggest papers in the UK to the extent that you even asked if "the Guardian was a Nigerian publication". You claim to travel regularly but also have a split personality between a retiree and a 20-something new to the aviation news sphere, per your own posts.
If you want to keep up the persona of a "Brit", you haven't done much research and you speak in a 1800s-circa English language style that reeks of ChatGPT translation.
You're also abnormally obsessed with Delta for a Brit. And also have an unhealthy obsession with Airbus and dislike for Boeing wide bodies, like another previously banned user here.
Do I know who you are? no. Of course not. But your insults are tiring as is your fake persona. And you say enough to make it obvious what you are not since you have claimed simultaneously under your "diamond" username to be a retiree and a 20-something fresh-faced to posting.
You also became a "member" on this forum immediately after Tim Dunn berated other users for not being members and using guest profiles.
To say nothing of your absolute tirade about using "guest" usernames while then continuing to go between guest and diamond logins.
Perhaps you are not Tim Dunn. I could care less. But Tim has a documented history of fake usernames and when first confronted, you immediately started talking about VPN usage.
Don't forget your bedtime. You LOVE to post on US eastern time every day, forgetting it's well past midnight in the UK when you do.
Whoever you are, it's just a comment section on a blog. Nobody cares. But if you're following in the footsteps of a known multiple profile user while echoing his exact feelings over and over about Delta, Airbus, and Israel with the exact same obsession of replying to EVERY post, you do cause questions and curiosity.
And as previously noted, there's only one other user I've ever encountered on this website that seems to take great pleasure in belittling other users via changing to their username to some strange demeaning term like "Plain Jane" and explicitly talk about why they're doing that as a means of derision.
That other user is Tim Dunn. You both have a uniquely childish way of attempting to demean others. So you'll excuse those of us who find everything about you to be a Tim Dunn fake username. Be your own person if you aren't him.
You two never reply to one another despite believing many of the same things.
@NS
what do I know. It's a comment section, i certainly don't run the website.
Just a curiosity based on some similarities and oddities in times posting
You could certainly be right.
I'd also note, there's another user that constantly resorts to personal intelligence attacks over and over and over (like above) when he's proven wrong, Tim Dunn.
Try to find new attack lines.
@AeroB13a
I'll just point out that nowhere in Eve's post did she claim that the Guardian is unbiased. Only that it's a major journalism outlet in the same tier as WaPo, NYT, etc. I don't think you'd find many, especially in the past 4-8 years, that would describe any of those listed journalism outlets unbiased either. I may be more plugged in than many Americans, but I immediately recognize the brand the same as I recognize other foreign news outlets like South China Morning Post, Al Jazeera, Haaretz, NHK, Deutsche Welle , etc. etc. Just because Ben is American and posting primarily for American audiences doesn't mean that there aren't readers from other countries, or even that American audiences don't know about non-American news outlets (especially one of the more prominent UK outlets).
"One is interested to read all views on the subject air incident.
Please be advised that to discerning UK newspaper readers, the Guardian is hardly renowned for its unbiased journalism, hence my question. One would have been ill advised to assume that you were referring to a UK ‘viewspaper"
Stop pretending. Your question was one of complete and utter ignorance about what the Guardian is. Your backtracking now is funny but stupid.
You're either Tim Dunn or some kid on the eastern time zone of the US.
"Stalker"? More like someone exposing you for the fake profile you are.
You speak like Tim Dunn.
You care about the same things as Tim Dunn. Delta and his weird Airbus obsession
and you obsessively reply to EVERY post (especially on Israel) allowing no dissent to your own worldview, just like Tim Dunn.
If the shoe fits, you're Cinderella, my "darlink"
Because, in theory, you don't just take planes out of service for no reason.
We haven't heard anything from Boeing or GE so the logical conclusion is that Air India maintenance is looking for something specific related to Air India.
For example...they did an engine change on this a/c recently.
Was the work done properly?
and yet you and Aero never reply to each other. Somehow ever despite identical views about delta, airbus, and Israel. A Brit... that cares about Delta this much. Delta... for a brit... Any person not from Atlanta finds your fake persona laughable.
Get help, Tim. You're the one with the documented past of bans from a.net for multiple personalities (they banned every identifiable trait about you in case you forgot, IP address, Cell phone ID, and all because you kept recreating fake names) and on OMAAT where Ben specifically said you continued trying to post under fake names when you were banned.
Aero said in one of his first posts that he uses a VPN to confuse people.
right after you were banned, Tim.
Stop using fake names. Again, I'll note how you never reply to each other.
You have a documented past of fake usernames over and over and over again. A.net banned everything about your internet protocol that can be tracked.
Own who you are. A loser who uses fake usernames over and over again.
Everyone knows it. It's almost ironic that your fake profile, Aero, normally responds excessively between 3p - and 8p eastern despite UK timezones while you're also responding under your usernames, despite Aero claiming to be a retired Brit (that stays up past 1am regularly in the UK) on Tim's exact time zones.
your mental issues are obvious and clear, Tim. Give it up. This is lame. Excessively lame. Your history is known. Your history has been banned due to multiple posters.
Tim or Aero? I'm happy with one of them. My issue is their insistence on a fake persona.
But I agree. Boot Aero or Tim out. Tim has a long history of being booted out for fake usernames.
Aero claims to be a Brit that claims to have a Tim-esque obsession with Delta and Airbus.
Tim is just banned most places for just who he is and his multiple personalities.
Aero,
you're normally awake at 1am London time (or long before). Did Tim clip your wings? or was he just too lazy to switch his profile logins between you two?
Let's just be honest that there are some people that go to bed at 9p Eastern. They aren't british and they align with a documented Tim Dunn past performance... that of a person who consistently uses fake usernames to do what Tim has always done, create fake profiles (and why he's been banned over and over again))
Life is what is it is. Brits are great, but they don't speak like Jane Austen today. Only a complete loser with a documented past of fake usernames would suggest otherwise
🙂 …. one has to be amused by the Plain and Simple trolls with female logins.
One is obviously a Plain compulsive, obsessive individual of limited intellectual capacity.
Definitely a glaikit, moreover, one step up from a heid-the-baw ….. a bampot even!
Let us simply ignore their gross ignorance …. 🙂
And here she is on eastern time trolling about female posters to feel better about fake posting
Don’t forget your time zones, “darlink”
You’re pathetic, Aero
“One is obviously a Plain compulsive, obsessive individual of limited intellectual capacity.”
And this exemplifies Tim’s intelligence to the utmost
Attack women to keep fake usernames intact
No defense of what has been said. But just find new attack lines
Attack women’s intelligence as a last ditch attempt to keep fake usernames
You’re pathetic, Aero (tim)
Keep your time zone In mind when you reply, aero
You reply on Tim’s time zone always and tim, you’re pathetic with your mysogyny and comments
Keep up your mysogynistic tendencies
You couldn’t be more “fired from delta” if you tried
What kind of moronic post is THAT? Find one person on the planet who ever said that a billion people are qualified to do ---- anything.
That, and if you think that any of the nations you mentioned at the end are free of "short cuts, bribery, and [especially] nepotism," then congrats on being even dumber than the folks you're disparaging.
"We haven't heard anything from Boeing or GE"
What do you think you would hear from Boeing or GE, other than some cookie-cutter generic statement? The Black Boxes haven't even been analyzed yet, and you think they're going to give some kind of speculative statement to the public regarding potential liability?
What crash investigation have you ever seen function like that?
Root cause was poor maintainence of the pilots seat, causing it to lurch while his hand was on the throttle leading to engines being turned off.
🙂 …..
Demonic, Plain and Simple. One has to wonder which nut-house the creature has escaped from?
Twentieth Century Fox will be looking to audition it for their future horror films …. “Demonic Jane on the Plane”. On second thoughts …. no audition necessary, you have the part lass.
🙂 …..
Randomly capitalising words made this post seem even more deranged and idiotic. Congratulations!