A JetBlue executive has just made some interesting comments about the carrier pursuing partnerships. I don’t think there’s anything earth shattering here, but it’s still interesting to hear it directly from someone at the airline.
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Please, please, PLEASE bring back the NEA! I miss being able to choose between over a dozen transcon daily departures on AA.com, and love snagging those westbound evening departures in Mint for peanuts while earning LP’s.
IMO, tying up with UA makes the most sense. For the reasons already mentioned, I don't think DL would be interested, and there's too much bad history at this point to attempt another try with AA. Additionally, UA is very weak in terms of southeast (especially FL) routes, while B6 has a FLL hub that would provide UA a way to tap into that, the Caribbean and South America and even start their own hub to rival AA at MIA and do it in an organic way. Plus, UA would provide B6 frequent fliers with a chance to access lounges, earn/redeem miles to many foreign destinations, and both carriers have similar products (in-seat IFE, snacks, etc.) that WN doesn't offer.
As for international carriers, won't it make sense to partner up with the carriers in the new T6 @ JFK like ANA, CX, Aer Lingus, etc.?
And no one's responding because no one wants the human garbage that live in Noo Yawk and Bahstun on their metal.
It seems clear that B6 is looking for the right partner and they are willing to get into a bidding war for their services. They fundamentally have a decent franchise.
AA and B6 could work on the same basis as AA/AS - no revenue sharing and no joint schedule coordination or pricing.
UA wants back in JFK. Only if B6 is wiling to give part of their slots to UA for it to operate its own flights would it make any sense.... but the flights that UA wants to operate are transcon flights which are the bread and butter of B6' revenue... they are not likely to give a competitor access
WN could also make sense strategically and, given the hedge funds behind both airlines might be what ends up happening.
And then there is AS that could have a partnership at little cost and connect two eastern and western US airlines.
Lots of possibilities.
DL seems to be the only airline that strategically has what it needs to grow and can do it on its own.
Alaska /Hawaiian with their west coast hubs and B6 on the east could create a true 4th carrier that could compete with the BIG 3, Joining OW alliance would cherry on top.
Putting 2+2 together and likely making 9, based on the Southwest staff cuts and other considerations of further announcements, I'd suspect JetBlue either code sharing with Southwest or a merger between the two.
This would envisage JetBlue expecting a merger with Southwest to pass anti trust proceedings or that a code sharing agreement won't impact in the manner that the agreement with AA did.
I never flew on B6 when they were in the NEA however there were many good flight combinations when I would look at bookings.
I doubt the NEA would happen however a nice extensive codeshare along with joining OneWorld would certainly be a good step.
If Jetblue doesn't want a full merger the NEA makes the most sense. Take a stab at it again.
Yes, NEA please! Maybe the new administration would look more favorably on the partnership.
Given the lukewarm attempts JetBlue made to revive the NEA after it was struck down, it seems like American saw it as more important/beneficial than JetBlue did. The fact that commentators here liked the NEA due to cheap transcons they could credit to American supports that. I would be surprised if they did an AA agreement again (though I won't rule it out)
All good points. A WN tie up would seem very odd. I feel like the most long-run strategic sense lies with hooking up with either AA or AS and then joining Oneworld as a full member.
I mean now that we don't really have "antitrust" anymore, restarting the AA partnership (or replacing with UA) would be a slam dunk.
They're not going after DL for their games of footsie with Aeromexico or WestJet. Enough proof that the US government is letting companies get vwith criminal conspiracy? At the very least, it's RICO, considering that Delta is a criminal conspiracy by itself.
You went a long way to get that humblebrag in for your boys. That's unexpected coming from you.
I don't want my favored airline touching that evil pile of flaming dog crap B6. Idlewild isn't worth it, Scott.
Naming yourself after the most disgusting mid-size city in the US and the sleaziest reality show contestant in history does you no favors.
Are you off your meds again?
Delta has a JV with AM and equity in them. There is no JV w/ WestJet.
Feel free to let us know what is being violated in that relationship.
We've just been told here over the past few days that UA has the largest TATL JV which not only involves the LH Group but also Air Canada.
but to the point that you missed, no, we aren't going to have joint ventures between two domestic airlines as AA and B6 tried to do because they can't compete w/ DL - with whom they both most overlap in the NE.
and it is B6 that is shopping for partners - which should send chills up the spines of AA execs
HA had a lot of partnerships pre-AS merger and the B6-HA partnership might survive but AS is of a far more valuable scale if that can be pulled off.
Would the DOJ allow JB and Alaska to merge after Alaska just acquired Hawaiian?
you seem kinda rattled, tim, and i'm not quite sure why - surely a partnership with AA or UA would not threaten the world's most premium airline, friend! rest easy.
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it is actually the Phantom of Terminal 1 at ORD that is rattled.
Delta doesn't need partners to compete.
UA is begging to get back into JFK.
AA and its fans are praying that the feds will turn a blind eye to antitrust so they can give the NEA another try.
No, I am not rattled.
DL is competitively in the best position in the US airline industry.
aren't you glad you through your hat into the ring?
then that would mean B6 will never make more than 1% profit margins.
Maybe there is a fit
*threw
And UA already has the single best hub in the northeast with EWR. DL needs two airports, one of them restricted by a perimeter rule, to carry close to what UA carries.
Some transcons from JFK would be gravy on top of what they already have in NYC.
"it is actually the Phantom of Terminal 1 at ORD that is rattled." Thanks for that Tim, you made me laugh. A very ORDinary debating style. (Not that my saying that was much better.)
Oh yeah, the airline who is a non-player in the largest market that is London or even Mexico or South America without the presence of their ever bankrupt and money pinching JV partners? Yeah makes a lot of sense…
Oh, so DL can ‘compete’ in London without VS? In Mexico without AM? In South America without LATAM? Give me a break.
mark,
and yet UA does not fly from JFK which is the largest longhaul airport from NYC just as LGA is for shorthaul traffic.
Since you clearly can't grasp the concept, no airport in the NYC airport can support a 500 flight/day operation - and DL managed to build a network in NYC that supports more flights from NYC and on the east coast that allows it to be the largest.
Let go of the ego that UA did or has it best in NYC, Mark. The evidence is overwhelmingly against that notion. UA acquired CO that did some novel things w/ EWR but EWR is simply not the best hub on the NYC or can singularly do what multiple airports can do. Only by cherrypicking a few datapoints and ignoring others can you come up w/ your claims about UA at NYC.
and we can say the same thing about AA and and specific parts of the world including the US because of their JVs.