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Garner: IHG's Cheap New Hotel Conversion Brand With Infused Water

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Lately we’ve seen the major hotel groups announce all kinds of new budget hotel brands, including Hyatt Studios, StudioRes by Marriott, and Project H3 by Hilton. Well, now it’s IHG’s turn to announce a new hotel brand.

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Diamond
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"But are you telling me that people sit in a room brainstorming, and this is what they come up with?"

It's usually a combination of marketing and product development. They have an idea (e.g., this new brand), do market research (think surveys, focus groups - both owners and Hyatt guests, and the like) and then decide whether or not to move forward with the idea/brand.


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(@derek)
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I do not like the proliferation of hotel brands but it makes sense to have a dumpster brand that allows lots of variability so that the remainder hotel's are consistent.

As far as...
"Look, I’ve never had a “traditional” job, so I don’t know what these board room discussions are actually like."...

I have kept attract of a small town where a city government staff member on a political agenda (they are supposed to be neutral) pushes something to city council, which allows public comment for show but such comment period has no effect. As soon as public comment is mentioned, there is no discussion but they pass the ordinance. Not much different from Putin except it's in America.


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 Stvr
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Will you do a trip report?


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 Evan
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The number of brands these chains are coming out with is just plain idiotic. I really liked Marriott before the merger. They had Fairfield, Courtyard, Residence Inn, Marriott, JW Marriott and Vacation Club (maybe one or two more). Each one had a distinct market. Now, with the merger and the new brands, I can't really tell what market any hotel is in. Ugh!


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(@PointsBhai)
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Just for some perspective, Ben is spot on.
My uncle runs a hotel that is currently under a lower-tier Marriott flag. It's aging and he is now looking for conversion options. The reason why brands like these are coming out is because of segmentation. Half of the hotel's rooms have kitchenettes, and half do not. Brands like Home2 won't allow conversion, even Tru or Spark by Hilton, as you can't have half and half.
This sort of flexibility is really helpful, and this seems like an interesting option to convert, all the while staying under a Top 4 brand flag.


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 LEo
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Holiday inn Shin Osaka is the same as what you have described


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 tom
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I reckon an they asked ChatGPT to come up with blurb for a new brand. We have seen so much of this **** over the past few years the AI should have plenty of material to work from. After all, unlike some other uses of AI none of this needs to mean anything, it can be complete BS so long as it sounds nice


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(@KingBob)
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Why would I want to stay in a hotel brand that is likely made up of rejects from other hotel chains? As a customer, minimal conversion costs to me = worn out carpet, worn out mattresses and seriously dated bathrooms. No thanks.


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 Mg
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I agree, but the average Joe will seek them for the $10 in nightly savings. Spirit (after add ons) anyone?


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(@FNT Delta Diamond)
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This looks targeted at owners of older Courtyard and Fairfield properties in Marriott that are approaching the point at which major renovations are required.


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(@FNT Delta Diamond)
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Marriott and others need more brands because some franchise or licensing agreements for legacy brands have exclusive geographic territory built into the contract that prohibits Marriott from opening a new property under the same brand within so many miles. In other cases, an owner wants a different brand instead of the third Courtyard or second Sheraton in any given market. The latter makes no sense to me because you don't see McDonald's or Burger King having spin-off brands for owners who don't want the third McDonald's in Anytown, USA.


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 LEo
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Also, it's risk protection as well, creating more brand allow spin-off more easily in case the parent corporation is struggling. Renaissance used to Ramada.


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Diamond
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""But are you telling me that people sit in a room brainstorming, and this is what they come up with?""

Or they pay a consulting group truckloads of money to dig up some presentation they did for another hotel and find/replace Hilton for IHG or whatever.

Yes, welcome to corporate America. I got tired of being the operational person on a task force at an airline that came up with initiatives ("we need someone from operations to make sure this can work!"). Like let's start with our agents are friendly and check people in efficiently. You mean do their friggin job? Pay them a bonus for being spotted by management smiling! Wait, isn't that called a paycheck for... wait for it... doing your job? Let's use paddles with fun faces and sayings on them to motion "guests" forward! Yep, those will look great in a TikTok video when someone who has been in line for 4 hours after a cancelation takes it off the counter and tries to hit our agent with it. Let's put signs with the policy on the counter! Another object for our "dear guests" to turn into a projectile when angry.


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 Mike
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spot on. I am willing to bet that none of these will look/feel as pretty and fresh as the pics suggest.
that being said - there is a lot of room in the market now for lower end hotels. I am planning my next trip and can't get over how ridiculous hotel pricing in the US has become. Not even going to go into what I am seeing in Singapore these days - glad work is picking the tab there...


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 Mike
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Obviously you are not their target audience KingBob. They are not planning to sell this to you or any other royalty.
I think there are *a lot* of people struggling to find anywhere to stay these days, with the cost of hotel rooms. People that go for a wedding or a short-term work contract or a medical procedure and just need somewhere to stay that won't break the bank. Many of them will be able to tolerate a worn out carpet if it saves them $50-100 a night.


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(@Joe Dan Draffen)
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The term “Garner” means to gather or collect through effort. He garnered the respect through his networking efforts.


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 Kair
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So this the brand for hotel opeators to "ptice match"?
I don't undetstand how it can be cheaper to convert to a whole another brand, than to renovate with existing brand.


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Diamond
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It can easily be cheaper. If the brand standard is pretty low, you don't need to do much other than change the signage, repaint the lobby, and maybe replace some cheap branded items in each room.

Far cheaper than spending millions on an actual proper renovation.


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 BRMM
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A 24/7 front desk! What an amenity. How groundbreaking. I can't wait!


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 Gray
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Given the market slot (i.e. not a boutique brand), I feel like this is the first time a company has tried to pitch inconsistency as a plus for customers. I agree that this feels like a brand that ChatGPT would generate.

Not that the others are doing great, but this makes me feel particularly glad that I more-or-less shook off the dust from my shoes at IHG about six years ago. Still, this brand proliferation has just gotten absurd...but clearly with Hyatt and Marriott floating around 30 brands, IHG felt compelled to catch up. *eyerolls*


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 Kair
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But not doing any of that would be even cheaper.....


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Diamond
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The point is that if you don't renovate at all, you probably will cease to meet the brand standard for your existing brand, and will eventually get kicked out ofb it.


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 Kair
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Ok thanks. But my point is that, how can scope of work to convert a property to a new brand can be smaller than renovatiing under the current brand. Unless the new brand's theme is "outdated Courtyard" or "wornout Fairfield Inn"


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 SK
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So your 15-cent assignment has been to weave Putin into this, no matter how absurd? Well-done!


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 W Ho
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Love it! As a solo business and leisure traveler, small simple and clean rooms are all I need.
Don’t need a gym or pool or fancy breakfast!

Best concept ever!


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(@T. Magee)
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Often the requirements for keeping a Hampton or Fairfield, for example, are so high the return isn’t there. For example the exterior corridor Fairfield’s. There were a handful that converted, but most just downgraded and built a new property down the street.

Garner and Spark seem to be requiring new decor packages and maybe furniture, but not exterior changes or layout reconfiguration.


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(@Debbie McDermott)
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We have stayed here 2 times in a week. There are no ice buckets and no glasses in the rooms. So you get to your room then have to go back down for these things. Please put these things back in the rooms


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