American Airlines' Secret Customer "Eagle Rating"

I must have a low Platinum rating if its bases on profit for the airline, I only fly with mileage, and then on long haul cx or jl

The credit card companies must have a similar scoring system in terms of deciding whether to waive an annual fee.

Good lord, the video rental shop I used to go to 25 yrs ago had taken computer notes on all their customers that you could see on the screen ("gets irritated with late fees"). Some odd little link went around about 20 yrs ago whereby you could see that Delta had collected all sorts of nutty information about you if you were a skymiles member - your salary, the value of your home, etc.

With my "profile" in the AA elites system, I have no doubt someones noted every time I gave an FA serious grief when they told me to push my seatback up 45 minutes from touchdown so they could go sit down.

Of course they have "ratings" ... some financial, some behavioral. Big data, big brother. Pretty scary if you dwell on it, as every little thing will follow you forever.

https://loyalty-dev2.mi-devtest.marriott.com/loyalty.mi

Lucky - potential leak of new Marriott program.

Must be a great system I defected not long after Parker came onboard and ruined
the once good carrier & solid program to near ashes
After 8 million miles they couldn’t care less to see why
nor tried to win back my business
I’m quite pleased with the competition and feel valued as a customer
and well rewarded for my loyalty
The irony is American started the game in 1981 and ended it with Parker taking a wrecking ball to the company

@ Chris -- Very interesting, thanks for the heads up. Probably missing something, but do you see any new info here? The Marriott Bonvoy term is interesting, but not seeing anything that differs from current program?

Within the EU you have a legal right to see *all* individual data held on you by any company (and a lot of other bodies, too). For example, just send BA a message under “GDPR regulations” and see what they tell you. They’re obliged to present all the data in a manner that is intelligible, including all keys and codes (they can’t just dump on you a print-out of binary code).

Incidentally, in some circumstances not revealing all the data held, or destroying it after being asked for it, is an actual criminal offence, which can lead to jail time. In the U.K. (and most EU countries) there’s an independent regulator to whom you can complain if the company doesn’t play ball.

It is nice also for Parker to tell the maintenance technician s that they aren't worth any more money and keep all working at bankruptcy wages and benefits . When we get a raise they charge us more for insurance puts us in a higher tax bracket so we can bring home less Thanks Doug

Well have been a Chairman\ Executive Platinum for10+ years and I see that American really doesn't value my loyalty like they did in the US Airways days. They also have their Concierge Key level that honestly they will give you no info on what it takes to reach that level. I have flown with ”Key” members that have no idea how the achieved that level

@Lucky - some of the links are broken but nothing new besides name change to the program and Platinum Premier -> Titanium.

I’m curious about my rating. I have been Aavantangr member sine 1999, and have been at gold for couple years, executive platinum for several years, and just plain platinum for majority of my member years. I remember about a year ago, they called me and asked me why I dropped to platinum after being executive platinum. I told them the truth. My current job doesn’t need me travel as much. Although, I have been just a platinum majority of the time. I’ve been offered upgrade to Business Class quite a few times when I travel from Narita to LAX, a route that I use to fly frequently. I do feel special with Old AA (Before merge with US Air).

I'm pretty sure there is some sort of secret status ranking for non-elites also.
My experience: was elite on AA for a few years then beginning around 2013 flew them only 2-3x per year until last year. After I had no status was never lower than Group 6 boarding, never had a middle seat, got other little perks here and there. Once missed a connection due to an AA maintenance issue and when the gate agent was getting a hotel for me he said "Oh that's nice - says here to put you in the hotel we use for premium passengers." None of that was life changing but I thought I must have had some status due to past history.

@Nice Paul: Doesn't that apply only to data the customer has willingly provided? Customer rating data isn't data the customer provided - it is data the airline computed using their own algorithms.

"Botton line"

@ Jim

No: it applies to *all* data held on an individual.

Anything which is identifiable as your personal data *must* be released to you on request.

Otherwise, when the airline decides without evidence that you are a racist pig or a Satan-worshipping neo-Nazi, it wouldn’t have to tell you...

Whilst BA does have a CIV score for each passenger my understanding is that it doesnt have to tell you how it is calculated or what it means as they are a result of it processing the data it has on you.

I wonder if an EU based member of Aadvantage could use GDPR to ascertain their score? I’m not familiar enough with similar laws in the US regarding to an individual being able to get access to their data. in the U.K. for example Freedom of Information laws don’t apply to private organisations where as data protection laws do. They are not the same but often conflated.

@ ChrisC

“my understanding is that it doesnt have to tell you how it is calculated”

Correct

“or what it means”

Not correct. There’s some escape room at the margins, but they must give you the data in a form that is intelligible and meaningful. They are not entitled to hold your personal data forever, either: their holding it must be proportionate and reasonable (or you must have agreed to it - probably by ticking some vast set of T&Cs on a website - though you can usually later withdraw consent).

Do you have any journalistic integrity at all? You even said yourself you don't know what you're talking about a couple of times. You're just doing a story to scare people. Who is paying you off?

I did get told my eagle rating once when on the phone to a customer service supervisor re a problem.Was told that is why it was being fixed.Also told part of the reason I had a higher rating was because I complimented them on good service.But have always flown J or F cabins.
However I also left after Dougie took over and even when I fly AA nothing really good to pass on compliments.Though still benefits eg flying NRT-DFW and plane couldn't leave DFW due to ice storm by the time I got to checkin was already on the NRT-ORD service.Only plat at the time.

@Kevin Birnbaum Bloggers are not the same as journalists. While there may have been good intent on on posting the article, it ultimately drives clicks toward their page with ads on it.

To top it off, while there are some correct bits, I can verify that there are several areas that are wrong or don't have all the information considered on them. Take the article with a grain of salt and just try to be nice to the airline employees. That will get you a lot farther than your Eagle rating in day to day situations.

Well with a german passport why don‘t you start a request based on the new gdpr regulations... https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-request-your-personal-data-under-gdpr/

I am Plat Pro.... And I know someone on the inside of CS at AA. I have a 4 eagle rating while my friend has a 3 Eagle at Explat. It's a strange system.

I’m a corporate traveler, usually flying in excess of 150 EQS per year and I’ve been flying almost exclusively American for three years now. When I used to travel with my boss (I had no status at that time) and he was executive platinum, he was upgraded to first class on every single flight. This was in 2016. Once I reached executive platinum in late 2017, I was rarely ever upgraded to first class on flights in excess of 500 miles. This was my experience until recently. I’ve had some very major customer service issues with American in the last couple of months (always with gate agents or phone reps) and I sent one email. When the response was boiler plate and said “we won’t offer you any compensation for ATC delays” I hit the roof, because I never asked for compensation, only for them to acknowledge their terrible customer service. So I complained again and threatened to switch airlines. After those two complaints, I’ve been upgraded to first class on every single flight I’ve had. Flights that had in excess of 50 people on the upgrade list. Flights that I probably never would have been upgraded on before, regardless of status. Then my boss told me about the eagle score and he said he was sure mine rose by complaining, as his had done in the past. I don’t know what my score is, but recent events lead me to believe your article is very accurate, since they probably think I’m defecting. Either way, just wanted to share my experience with other travelers out there.