Europe’s largest regional airline ceased operations last night, after a very long fight for survival, which even included an acquisition by Virgin Atlantic.
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Nothing to do with Corona, as BE were bleeding cash for ages. Hopefully the profitable routes will be taken over by others (Loganair? Eastern Airways? Aurigny?), and hopefully they will have jobs on offer for former BE employees.
That has indeed been long in the making. It's sad, but we will see if the UK government now subsidises another airline for the routes which were subsidised for BE. Stobart might chip in for a few of them (Barra springs to mind)
Sad but inevitable.
I have flown with them many times and they tended to have very good staff who I have a lot of sympathy for.
However, on routes with competition they would not be my first choice as most of their planes were horrible Q400s and they were never that cheap or reliable
For any cabin crew looking for new jobs I understand that several UK train operators are looking for on board staff right now.
Corona will be used as an excuse for laying off employees or getting rid of unprofitable business parts by many corporations.
There was talk of IAG taking over Flybe before Virgin did. Would it be possible for IAG to step in and take over Flybe the way it did with BMI?
They were facing doom before Corona even appeared. This should also leave a neat gap for Aer Lingus Regional to jump for some of the routes in particular ex BHD perhaps.
What happens to their Heathrow slots now? Does Virgin get them automatically? If so, you have to wonder if that's what Virgin wanted all along... Just let them fail and get all of FlyBe AMS, CDG, and LHR times/slots.
Waiting at Schiphol's gate C11 yesterday for my KLM flight to Toulouse, I watched a Flybe Dash-8 depart from one of the D gates, with no idea I was seeing one of the last-ever Flybe departures... Very sad.
This reminds me of that meme, "Don't blame the holidays - you were fat in August." Everybody's blaming Corona for everything now...
@Stanley - why are turboprops "outdated"? They are more efficient on shorter flights than "pure" jets of the same size.
Shame about Flybe - I flew them between Exeter and Edinburgh and was very satisfied with the onboard experience. (Exeter Airport, not so much.)
This could be the ideal scenario for Virgin because they can now buy the parts of Flybe they were interested in whilst leaving out the unnecessary parts. Virgin were only interested in the parts of Flybe that linked into Heathrow and Manchester. So they'll probably buy those and ignore the more obscure regional routes. Although if the deal is good enough IAG might be tempted into buying parts of Flybe in order to protect themselves against Virgin making another attempt at the short haul market.
This is something that has been on the cards for sometime unfortunately - but the removal of FlyBe rips a huge hole out of regional flying in the UK - and it is hard to see how or where anyone else will fill that hole. It's very different from the failure of Thomas Cook Airlines last year - it may not get the publicity and drama of "165,000 stranded holidaymakers" but the failure of Thomas Cook was barely a ripple in it's segment, which has already been replaced - FlyBe pretty much was the segment.
I'll miss them - they were convenient, pretty reliable and provided a good service.
From my local airport I have (or had) a choice of direct flights to 25 regional airports within the UK - of those 5 are the various London airports and of the other 20 - 8 were served only by FlyBe. And for some of these routes flying was by far the best option - the last few flights on FlyBe I took were to Exeter - there is a direct rail service - 7 1/2 hours - and driving is probably the best part of 8 hours.
There doesn't seem to be anyone else interested in taking up these sort of routes - maybe some additional connectivity via London may appear, that's assuming the airports can survive without FlyBe. If FlyBe couldn't make money on the routes with the correct sized aircraft it's difficult to see how people like Easyjet/Ryanair could with even bigger ones.
We are currently in Florida, Flew with virgin Atlantic from Manchester,We we're ment to be flying back to Edinburgh on flybe from Manchester on Saturday 14th of March,We are totally in the dark, What we will do on arrival back in Manchester.
I agree with the folks saying that Flybe was bleeding cash and would be in financial trouble regardless, but I do think the Coronavirus-excuse does have some legitimacy here. VX is having a 40% drop in demand right now, and they're freezing hiring and reducing exec pay. In another scenario, especially with VX's recent resurgence, they might have been able to keep propping Flybe up until they could complete the rebrand, but because of their now-risky financial situation themselves, they can't.
I feel badly for the staff that lost their jobs today as a result of this; however, after my one and only experience with Flybe (in which they charged me an extra 30 quid for a flexible ticket, but didn't actually give me said ticket), I can't say I am sad or surprised that the airline went under.
@Brian
The harsh reality is that you will need to buy a new ticket/make alternative transport arrangements. Your Flybe tickets are worthless, sadly, unless you have travel insurance covering this contingency.
Loganair already snapped up the routes that make sense for them-and will employ staff(and planes?) from Flybe on them.
Other carriers will do same.
The unprofitable at any price routes shall disappear.
Unless the govt steps in with subsidy , but as there are many more demands on govt (taxpayer) aid that the public supports-don't hold your breath.
Virgin Atlantic apparently advised Flybe on Tuesday evening that it was unable to provide further support to the airline due to the impact of Coronavirus on its own bookings. Also, Flybe had just £5.7m of cash reserves but owed creditors more than £10m by today.
It's come to light that HMRC sought to wind-up the airline in January due to unpaid APD of £5.8m and a tax penalty of £844k.
You can get a direct Transpennine train from Manchester Airport to Edinburgh, it's not bad at all. If you look now you can probably get reasonably cheap advance tickets just in case insurance or compensation won't cover you.