Delta Reports First Quarterly Loss In Five Years

All things considered, Delta is well positioned to weather the storm. On the other hand, the “we will never lose money again” $60 Doug...

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“Delta reported a $534 loss in the first quarter”

If they had only lost five hundred bucks, I think they’d be very happy. 🙂

Isn't GA reopening the state this coming Friday? If that's successful, ATL may have more passengers during the 2nd quarter for Delta.

Does Delta have ownership in Virgin Australia?

This would be what I expected from DL. I do see them and UA hurt much more by the loss of Atlantic and Pacific routes than AA since AA is stronger in the US/Western Hemisphere. It will be interesting to see if AA fall in between or does what UA did and dumps a lot of expense/loss to help with future taxes.

I Know DL has ownership with China Eastern, LATAM, KLM/AF and Korean Air but I don't think they own any of Virgin Aussie. They have enough problems with what they own right now. Looking back, closing Tokyo and moving to Seoul and the LATAM/Korean Air investments might have been bad moves and will hurt them down the road. Will just have to see.

Now for AA's announcement tomorrow. . ECK!

I was expecting a bit worse from Delta. However, we still don't see AA or UA full numbers yet.
All I can say so far UA is doing much worse. Trying to raise cash through equity (before they can't) isn't a good sign. With DL numbers they seem to be able to stay in business till end of the year, UA might be less than that. But that doesn't mean any of the airlines won't file Chapter 11 sooner.

@Lucky - Delta’s last quarterly loss was Q4 of 2014, not Q1 of 2011. May want to adjust the headline to reflect.

@joey - while Kemp has decided to say he's reopening Georgia, everyone there isn't exactly with him on that.

For some weird reason, some people in Georgia are saying that a 4% death rate on 20,000 cases ( https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional/coronavirus-georgia-the-latest-figures/HXfoEnBqHW7i0AJpYArL0J/) means they value their life more than opening their business. Go figure!

@khatl

and those people are being ignorant since Sweden hasn't shut down and has the same death rate. The lockdowns are pretty much worthless.

@khatl -- Science is definitely on his side. Multiple studies now, the most recent from Stanford, are saying that the real # of infected people is easily 50-85x the known number of cases now.

20,000 positive x 50 = 1,000,000 positive cases. If that's the case, CFR = 0.0846%
20,000 positive x 85 = 1,700,000 positive cases. If that's the case, CFR = 0.0498%

For reference the common seasonal flu has a CFR of ~ 0.2%-0.25%.

Some other food for thought:
A study in Germany also reached a similar conclusion of actual cases being ~50x known cases.

Deaths (overall) for the USA have been falling somewhat dramatically since Jan 1st. 59,000 people a week were dying the first week of January. Last week only 28,000 people died (I think this is an anomaly in the data, as the two weeks prior to that were 49,000 and 52,000 respectively)

GA's number of new cases has dropped to pre-lockdown (mid-March) levels and continues to do so. GA's deaths work out as: Average: 72.8 years old, Mode: 73 years old, Median: 74 years old. Perhaps it would be prudent for those who are most vulnerable to avoid going out in public as much as possible (which is good advice during any flu season, period).

Sweden didn't close down at all. Restaurants are still open, schools are still in session. People are being cautious, but no lockdowns. Now they're talking about possibly reaching herd immunity in the next 2-3 weeks. No need to wait for a vaccine at that point.

Grocery store / hardware store / warehouse store workers are exposed to a huge number of people these days due to them being the only stores open, reduced hours (increasing density of customers), customers going to multiple stores in search of hard-to-find-items, etc. Lots of high-contact/high-touch interactions with things other people have touched. Yes, some have tested positive, but very, very few considering how much exposure they have and how many workers there are.