Delta Premium Select Domestic Expansion: Now From JFK To LAX/SFO

Obviously this is in preparation for Delta taking the 757s off JFK-SFO and either going all 767s like LAX or using the A321 flat bed subfleet once it is certified.

$150 price difference-I'd jump on that in a heartbeat.

It’s not $150 - premium select is listed under the First column

Premium economy is the highest margin cabin for airlines right now.
It is essentially what business class was for airlines 30 years ago and is affordable luxury.

in other news, DL just released another round of new additions from AUS, in preparation for its 3rd new hub in the past 10 years.

Come along now Tim! …. Ben has posted a ‘D’ word article and we await your words of wisdom …. 🙂

Blow! You beat me to it …. well done Tim …. 🙂

Wonder if they will add this to their Hawaii and Alaska flights.

Delta does have premium economy on Hawaii routes from most hubs and I can see JFK-ANC getting it in summertime as well.

Wow...at $814, if allowed, I would just buy 3 economy seats @$567 and lie down across. I think United & JetBlue? let's you buy extra seats online at booking.

Delta is reportedly retiring the last of its 767s that don't have premium economy this winter and some of those aircraft are used for domestic flights.

Their premium configured A321NEOs do have premium economy but are supposed to have less than 150 seats so are not going to be used for heavily leisure destinations including Alaska or Hawaii.

DL's flights from the eastern US plus SLC need the range of a widebody so those routes will have premium economy. DL also has some widebody flights from the west coast to Hawaii so those two will have widebodies w/ premium economy

Uh oh.... what's cookin' as you're 'stirring the pot' !
.... lol

It’s interesting to see Delta finally monetizing Premium Select on JFK-SFO, years after United led the way with true premium economy on select premium transcon routes like EWR-SFO and EWR-LAX. As usual, Delta’s playing catch-up while trying to sell an aging 767 product as “premium.” United’s widebody fleet is significantly younger and better equipped, with more consistent product delivery.

As for upgrades, United offers more transparent and flexible options, particularly for elites using PlusPoints. Delta’s “waitlist and hope” method for Delta One upgrades from Premium Select isn’t exactly confidence-inspiring. Sure, you can still clear for free, but then there are 40-plus people on a waitlist for 1 seat.

And let’s not forget aircraft. United’s use of the 787 Dreamliner on domestic premium routes is a leap ahead of DL’s 767s and recycled interiors. United’s continued investment in NextGen interiors, Wi-Fi, and IFE consistency, even on the 737 fleet, puts the overall passenger experience ahead.

Of course, Delta’s marketing team will do its best to spin this as innovation. But in reality, they’re simply catching up to a product United has already refined and scaled.

You just used 5 trigger words to summon Tim.

No, United's widebody fleet is not significantly older. It is, in fact, the oldest widebody fleet among major global airlines.

and a 10 abreast economy and 8 abreast business first class product is far from premium - which is what UA offers on its domestic configured 777s.

and UA's fleet of 757s, like DL's do not have direct aisle access. DL is reconfiguring its international 757s to standard domestic airplanes while UA is deathly afraid of losing market share so they will not retire any international aircraft.

and DL does use its 339s and 350s on international routes, both of which have a class-leading business class product, not some high density business class product that crams more "premium" passengers into the same amount of space than virtually any global airline. Polaris is nothing to write home about as much as you and the usual bunch of UA fan nuts want to convince us otherwise.

Following again, so they announce this after AA did as the XLRs and 777/787 start flying the route. Rising. . hardly.

DL announced years ago that it would use its transcon configured A321NEOs on some transcon flights supplemented by widebodies. DL has been using A330s as well as 764s which have premium economy for years. Most of the 767-300ER fleet has them and the ones that don't have it are being retired.
The reason for this announcement is because DL can say w/ certainty that it will not have any widebodies that don't have premium economy and won't use the 757s.
no, DL isn't copying anybody and certainly not AA.

It just seems United with the in-flight screens, Bluetooth, and Polaris have much newer aircraft across. Flying Delta seems to be much older seats years back.

All three US airlines seem to converge on offering the same product. Delta and AA will fly the A321XLRs transcons with some lay flat and premium select. All three airlines have flagship lounges at their hubs along with general lounges. Not sure why people get so passionate about talking about DL or UA. They are largely the same product, especially if you fly in Y.

I’ve only been reading OMAAT for a few months. I still fail to grasp why many commenters are so adamant about their preferred domestic legacy air carrier. It’s a few hours in a confined space. It’s almost always mediocre. In the rear it’s virtually identical. It’s one thing to be avgeeky; quite something else to have permanent cognitive dissonance.

I don't think your details are accurate. I think the Comfort+ is premium economy and the premium select is a section between business class and premium economy with some features from both.

United has far fewer airplanes with seatback AVOD but what they are installing is newer than what DL installed years ago. That is no different than the technology you put in your home.

Last United flight I was on was a 737 with those armrest controls - not something I have seen on DL in a very long time.

And UA has precisely ZERO mainline aircraft with free high speed WiFi while more than 90% of DL's mainline fleet has it. UA seems very dated to me.

I think DL is going to have an issue differentiating itself here, since they spam domestic search results by categorizing their extra-legroom product as Premium Economy in Google search and others. So, many of us filter DL out if we are looking for P.E. transcon (including transborder Canada) because we'd get all those false "Premium Economy" positives on DL.

That was the plan: be prepared for more.

Tim, I love how you throw out ‘average fleet age’ as if passengers are sitting there doing math instead of noticing the cracked plastic and yellowing panels on Delta’s 767s. United’s 787s aren’t just younger; they’re quieter, have better cabins, and actually smell like the 2020s.

And yes, United’s domestic 777s aren’t glamorous, but at least they’re not being passed off as premium on flagship transcon routes. Meanwhile, Delta’s 767s out here cosplaying as cutting-edge, when in reality, they’ve seen more seat refurbishments than a Spirit Airlines upholstery shop.

Also, bless your heart for bringing up Delta’s A350s, if only they actually showed up on JFK–SFO. United’s running Dreamliners with Fauxlaris daily, while Delta’s over there “Premium Selecting” passengers into a cabin that screams 2004.

But hey, I’ll give Delta credit: they’re excellent at marketing nostalgia as innovation.”

Yeah. No.

the internet - on any subject - is in no way reflective of reality.

that is part of the point.