Delta Bans Employees From Wearing Flag Pins

I’m super confused… on one hand Delta donates to hard right congresspeople who refused to certify the 2020 election… and on the other hand they go and do snowflake actions like this… what are you Delta??

Here before the comment section becomes an official shit show again....

Yes it was the Palestinian Liberation Organization who hijacked planes. I don’t think is the passengers who are the reason “we can’t have nice things”

Adam is right.
Gary carried the story yesterday but Ben's assessment is certainly accurate "this is why we can't have nice things" - and Ben notes that even Emirates had to ditch the whole practice of wearing flags because of Taiwan.

Delta, like AA and UA and every other US flag carrier, gets its license to operate from the US government which negotiates its right to fly outside of the US (and inside as well, flag or no flag) from the US government. If any flag is worn, it should be the US flag.
But let's be clear that no one is required to wear ANY FLAG.
They just can't wear any flag other than the US flag.

Because of the actions of a few, no one can have nice things.

Business as usual, they must do everything like a chameleon, even if it is very hypocritical or ironic, to make Delta the “most profitable airline in the world”, as the DL fanboy in the comment sections would say

Tim, I would be extremely offended by a Delta employee wearing a US flag pin. Nothing like phony jingoistic patriotism to ruin the experience of flying the Singapore Airlines of America, complete with moldy chicken.

you clearly didn't read.

No Delta or any other US airline employee is required to wear ANY FLAG. They simply have to wear the required uniform items of which the US flag is not one of those required items.

ALL aviation authority in every part of the world is based on treaties which airlines obtain FROM THEIR GOVERNMENTS.
All aviation rights derive from the countries in which the airlines are based.
If Delta ALLOWS any flag to be displayed by its employees, it is the US flag which DL displays on its aircraft just as Singapore displays the Singapore flag on its aircraft, Qatari flag on QR aircraft etc.

This isn't about Delta and what you think about the US flag or chicken is immaterial to this discussion.

If you can find a form of transborder transportation that doesn't involve a flag or national identity, go for it.
Even busses and boats display the national identity of the owner and operator of that vessel.

sounds like you will be walking across the Pacific if you don't want anything to do with national identity.

Antisemites getting triggered in 3, 2...

China bullies airlines into not displaying Taiwanese flags, an otherwise perfectly normal behaviour.

Unspeakable influence bullies airline into not displaying another country flag - and “this is why we can’t have nice things?”.

Bizarre.

You can thank the thought labeler and the radical muscle meat for spreading the incident.

Bwah hah hah

Not sure I see anything here which explains why Delta can’t allow people to wear different country’s pins?

@Max @yolo

“they go over the heads of most people.”
"you clearly didn't read"

Again, Tim. Read.

LOL, cookie dough anyone?

In other news, criticism of Palm Springs now redefined as homophobic.

Wearing the Ukraine flag now anti-Russian.

Back in the real world, if you look at young people’s attitudes the tide is turning…

Ben explained it well and shows the parallel with EK. Flags other than of the home country of your airline -not your home country if you are not a citizen of the country where the airline is headquartered - is distracting and divisive.

No Delta employee is required to wear any flag but if they wear a flag, it must be the US flag.

Not a hard concept to understand and yet there are and will be those that argue because they can't accept basic facts or the rational interpretation of it.

So basically via it's post, Delta shows that is it as racist as that idiot "terrified" person who posted the comment?

Wearing a Palestinian flag doesn't make you an antisemite...if anything, it seems to trigger the people who are racist towards Palestinians.

"This isn't about Delta"

This article is *literally* about Delta.

They learned their tactics from groups like the Irgun and Haganah.

You might wanna know the real meaning of the word "anti-semite" before saying it out, no offence.

Also the flag in question is originally the PLO flag, and was used by PLO when they were in the plane hijacking business.
Years later the Palestinian Authority was formed and the PLO flag became the Palestinian flag.

Next they will be wearing Swasthikas.Interesting MOST of protest is from people of Muslim faith and others who forget that HAMAS started it.

I support this ban. Being employed does not entiitle you to free speech. Put the flag back on when you are out of uniform.

Seems very reasonable. Sorry if this offends the pro-Hamas crowd.

Surely not all, as Irgun and Hagana never hijacked planes.
Anyway, FAs shouldn't war Irgun pins as well.

I find flags useful if they indicate the command of a different language. In my experience, the number of Delta flight attentendants speaking languages other than English is the lowest of the big three. So it would be even more useful to have that information visible.

Good. US airline crew often have all different pins in addition to looking shoddy and unkempt. If one colleague wears a Palestinian flag what if another wears the Israeli one

Aside from whether is this right or not, I'd say that this decision was something they had to make. Better avoid something while you can, than not doing anything until something happens and a stupid drama break out.

For those who disagree with Delta's decision to ban flag pins, what if it were the flag of North Korea? What about the pre-1994 flag of South Africa? Tsar Alexander II's Flag of the Russian Empire?

To start with, there is no way you can conflate the flag of Palestine with the “badge” of Khamas. This was a deliberate and sinister post, with the person behind it being clearly pro-Israel.

Now just imagine the reverse: if one of the flight attendants was wearing a pin of the Israeli flag, and went on Twitter posting: “Since 2001……Now imagine getting into a Delta flight and seeing workers with Apartheid badges in the air. What would you do?”

Or if one of the flight attendants was wearing a pin of the Ukrainian flag, and went on Twitter posting: “Since 2001……Now imagine getting into a Delta flight and seeing workers with Neo-Nazi Azov badges in the air. What would you do?”

In the first instance, its almost certain the tweet would be met with an uproar of accusations of antisemitism, while the second would be completely ignored.

Let’s be honest, it’s not rocket science. The tweet went viral because dehumanizing Palestinians has become normalized. There is absolutely nothing terrifying about wearing a flag pin of Palestine. In the wake of Israel's sadist war of revenge and extermination on Gaza, accounts like these are what we should be afraid of, as they conflate Palestine with terror and weaponize claims of prejudice and antisemitism to dehumanize and vilify an entire group of people. This is, in itself, abject bigotry and blatant racism. At some point, it's going to backfire in a spectacular way... Free Palestine y’all

I see why it’s simpler to only allow USA flags.

Not sure I see anything here which explains why Delta can’t allow people to wear different country’s pins?

As a Jew, I would not want to see a flight attendant wearing a flag of Israel. I do not think taking sides of the conflict should be displayed in the workplace.

I think the issues is not who started, it is the utter failure of Israel to recognize Palestinian statehood and the insane amounts of civilian casualties they are causing. Al Qaeda did 9/11, that did not lead USA and its coalitions to flatten Afghanistan and kill 37k people, more than 25k of which are civilians, in a period of 9 months.

Also you can see by the rhetoric of individuals in Israeli military who also share that Israeli war in the region is not sustainable. It is a doom loop, you kill and do not resolve the situation, you perpetuate it to another day in future. Besides you have Netanyahu who is hellbent of prolonging this war and spreading it to other areas just for saving himself from corruption charges

This PC generarion is absurd.

Just because you support Palestinian cause or show solidarity to the humanity crisis there does not mean you are pro Hamas. Your utter failure to recognize that is despicable and sad

I support Israeli actions to retaliate against Hamas, but I also support Palestinian plight and condone the insanely high civilian casualties being caused by Israel. That does not make me Pro Hamas. It makes me rational, John!

There's no pro-Hamas crowd here. Maybe stop looking at everything with a partisanship-ish view.

Friendly reminder: Hamas was created by the Israeli Government.

@peterjayagopal

You seem to have forgotten about who started everything back in the days - the Jews.

The truthful history is telling you what is right. Don't expect to find one in the US though.

@Airfarer

And you'd be mad if they've also banned employees from putting a pride flag. Typical Western hypocrite double standards.

Completely true. The failure of people, mostly Americans, mixing up Palestinian cause and Hamas is ridiculous. Besides this conflict will never resolve until there is path to peace and eventual recognition of Palestinian statehood. It is just kicking down the barrel for something worse.

There is also a sad reality where how some people have started using the horrors of holocaust as some sort of a shield against the injustice they are doing. Trying to find the best possible solution for both Israel and Palestinian is not being anti semitism.

Accor does this well. Most of their privately operated properties have employees name badges with the language spoken by them. For languages that are spoken in multiple countries, they usually use the flag of the country the property is in.

"Meaning of the word 'anti-semite'".

This might be the biggest nonsensical trope that Israel-hating people from that region say. "I can't be anti-semitic, I'm from Palestine or Lebanon. I'm semitic" knowing full-well what anti-semite means in the modern context.

Heads up. If you use phrases like "you may want to know what 'anti-semite' means", you're probably VERY VERY anti-semitic in the modern context of the usage.

Ridiculous nonsense, Peter. The protests are from a mix of backgrounds and religions, including many Jews of all nationalities.

As for Khamahs starting it, history didn't begin on Oct 7th.

100% well reasoned and fair reasoned post.

No doubt it’ll be added to the forced definitions of antisemitism soon.

They learned enough from them, I guess.

Stop staying stupid things, the flag was being used since the 1920s, long before the PLO was ever formed.

I remember Korean Air putting a flag of that flight attendant's home country on a non-Korean FA's name tag.

It would be nice to see other airlines employing this as well.

the conclusions you come to are truly breathtaking.

It is pretty obvious Delta pulled the person off of social media channels because they opened their mouth - which was why the whole notion of displaying flags other than of the US was implemented.

Because a very few can't keep their thoughts to themselves, everyone is punished and "nobody can have nice things"

@MaxPower okay, but is it my fault that some uneducated people changed the meaning of that word?

I don't use the word "Semite" to justify an anti-Jewish movement. In fact, what I meant was more like to "criticising Israel doesn't mean anti-Jewish".

Calm down, mate.

EVERYONE can see it is about Delta.

The point is that olives is triggered by the US flag so she can pick whatever airline wears a flag that doesn't trigger her but every airline has some national identity as so virtually all forms of transportation.

If she doesn't like national identity being displayed, then she needs to walk.

If she doesn't like the US, then she can figure out how to get transportation WITHIN the US by any means that doesn't show some form of identity to the US or one of its states.

It's not a hard concept to understand

Shall you forget what happened on October 7th? This is a terrorist organization. They deserve everything that comes to them.

No workplace should allow the flag of ANY terrorist organization to be worn.

This will forever be iconic

History also didn’t start in 1917, 1948, or 1967… just saying

The “Palestinian cause” is the Hamas cause— the destruction of the state of Israel, and the establishment of a Palestinian state “from the river to the sea.” It is spelled out in black-and-white.

Delta should allow all country pins if the flight attendant speaks the language. Speak Palestinian Arabic and you can wear the pin. Don't speak it and you are banned from wearing the pin.

@Irithu if it didn’t get into your thick head, the Palestinian flag is not Hamas!!!!

Surprised nobody brought it up yet.

What about the rainbow flags.
Delta just sponsored a rainbow flag parade few weeks ago.

So for Delta, is rainbow flag a yes or no.

Completely false. What about the failure of people (mostly young, ignorant and misinformed) who conflate right-wing Netanyahu government policies with Judaism and Jewish people worldwide, who have nothing to do with this conflict? Anti-Semitism is real and it has exploded globally.

As for who wants peace, ask any Hamas member or their Palestinian supporters what their ultimate goals are. It isn’t peace or a two state solution. It’s the destruction of Israel and death to Jewish people worldwide. It’s literally their manifesto.

Political statements, including flag pins have no place in any work environment. This is especially important when there is a power imbalance, like being stuck on a plane with a member of a flight crew that makes people uncomfortable for their displayed personal belief

I think this is fair. It would be deeply upsetting to me to see countries where human rights are violated regularly (e.g., Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Eretria, Sudan, UAE, Iran, China, Turkey) endorsed by a FA. It's better to have a prophylactic solution, than to have instances where customers may be unnecessarily upset by what appears to be a promotion of a state that has caused many harm.

The counter argument - would Delta have bowed to pressure for the people disgusted with israeli flag pins? I doubt it..

Delta of course had a choice here, they could've simply just ban the terrorist flag and allow all others. It's not that hard and happens at many events for example.

@Eve - yes, peace is needed to end this.

If your truly for the Palestinian state, you’d support Israel in their destruction of Iranian proxies. Do you think Hamas has run Palestine well and treated the people well? The leaders are living in 5star hotels in Doha. They are finding hoards of humanitarian aid in the Hamas tunnels, the billions of $$ have been swindled by Hamas, taking away from Palestinians. Wake up.

Re the Palestinian state. Who is going to run it peacefully? Who is going to guarantee security measures?

Bigger picture. Understand that Hamas is an Iranian proxy…a Russian, N Korean and Chinese ally. Without destroying the proxies and deterring the others, there will be no peace.

Oh! we must know if you support gay people.

Guessing it’s ok because not a country flag

You’re looking good, girl

How you doin’?

Since flight attendants like to remind us they are primarily there for out safety, then they should not wear anything that might cause even one passenger on the plane to become agitated, which could lead to an unsafe situation onboard.

Exactly. It’s not TGI Fridays, it’s a premium airline. Nothing should be added that wasn’t designated as part of a uniform.

I fail to see what's wrong about supporting the people of Palestine and wearing the pin of the Palestinian flag. is not antisemitic, anti-Zionist, or racist, nothing. it's simple human compassion and sympathy.

We drop bombs on innocent people all the time and kill them, what do we call ourselves then?

Ask any Hamas member or their Palestinian supporters what their ultimate goals are. It isn’t peace or a two state solution. It’s the destruction of Israel and death to Jewish people worldwide. It’s literally their manifesto.

Political statements, including flag pins have no place in any work environment. This is especially important when there is a power imbalance, like being stuck on a plane with a member of a flight crew that makes people uncomfortable for their displayed personal beliefs.

Or just allow pins from countries where delta flies to.

Why do you doubt it?

Also, the counter argument implies that employees with opposing views might be just as likely to wear an Israeli flag pin. This ignores the obvious asymmetry of behavior (i.e. being an activist vs minding their own business), all the way up to the willingness/desire to martyr oneself for a cause.

So much for reading travel blogs to escape toxic political vitriol.

If that were the case then the US flag would be the first to be banned.

You really have trouble understanding this?

It's not complicated: they play both sides, and thus come out the overall winner, no matter who's in power at a given time. Every Fortune-500 in the country operates this way.

Why whine? Nobody made you that promise.

This is why we can't have nice things is EXACTLY what is happening here. Some employees have abused this perk of personalization and now all must lose it.

Just because you are comfortable with it, doesn’t mean other people are. No political statements, flags, or anything unauthorized for that matter should be worn by flight crews. it’s a premium airline, not a TGI Fridays.

Militant Hamas apologists have no place spreading their propaganda on an airline blog.

Curious, would you say the same thing of a flight attendant wearing an Israeli flag out of sympathy and compassion for the hostages?

Since when does the pride flag equate to the murder 1700 innocent Jews at a concert and a regime that supports terrorism, the use of its own citizens as human shields and actively advocates for the annihilation of an entire population of people/culture? Get your false equivalencies straight (pun intended). And for the record, I am a member of the LGBTQ community who believes that all flags should be banned on Delta flights (including the pride flag) to ensure fairness across the board.

Curious, would you say the same thing of a flight attendant wearing an Israeli flag out of sympathy and compassion for the hostages?

thank you!

and to the question about Israeli flags, NO FLAG EXCEPT THE US FLAG is pretty clear.

Emirates did the same thing over Taiwan so let's quit acting like DL is breaking ground in requiring uniformity for how its employees look - what a concept!

Nah, they're there for their own safety.

So many diversions and offload because they feel threatened by a passenger, sometime a junkie with tickling feathers.

Thanks for telling us you're not paying attention to the issue. Such a naive take on it.

Eve, the people of Gaza elected Hamas, and Palestinians in general seem to support Hamas moreso than they do the PLO government of the West Bank. I believe this makes it reasonable for a passenger to conflate wearing the Palestinian flag with support for Hamas, though the passenger would be incorrect in some cases.
For practical purposes, I think Delta no good option here.

@Lucky, you wrote, "Given how polarizing the conflict is, employees wearing Palestinian flags made some people uncomfortable and angry." I recognize some people may be uncomfortable and angry seeing the Palestinian flag, but some people would likewise be angry seeing the Republic of China ("Taiwan") flag or the rainbow flag. Would you make the same comment if this were the case?

You also said, "Delta’s policy has stated that employees shouldn’t wear 'any clothing that conveys a message or advocates a position or cause other than Delta-sponsored programs or initiatives.'" So, how does wearing a Palestinian flag convey a message or advocate a position or cause? A Palestinian flag does not even mean Palestine is an independent country by itself, or would you say everyone wearing a flag (no matter which flag) is conveying a message or advocating a position or cause?

PS: I make this comment as a gay Taiwanese person myself.

Neither do apologists for the genocidal Israel occupying government.

@Vernon C

Probably about as much sympathy and compassion you would express for the Palestinian hostages...

@Noa

That is pure BS. Conflating the Palestinian cause to Hamas is asinine and a way to de-legitimize and dehumanize the Palestinians and their right to live in an unoccupied country of their own.

Also what about Likud's own manifesto which states that "between the sea and the Jordan there will be only Israeli sovereignty"? Why is that rhyme ok in the world's eyes?

@The Angry Empath

The irony of you pointing out people conflating right-wing Netanyahu government policies with Judaism and Jewish people worldwide while yourself conflating all Palestinians or people who are sympathetic to the Palestinians with Hamas is just sad.

As pointed out above, it is literally in Likud's manifesto for there to not be any two state solution, but you seem to be ok when Israel has that policy...

@Irithu S

Shall you forget everything that was happening before October 7th? Seems so. The IDF has slaughtered more Palestinians, confiscated land, demolished homes, etc, more than Hamas ever did.

The IDF is the military arm of a terrorist state.

@Nick

Hamas doesn't run Palestine, it has been active only in Gaza.

They haven't found anything in the tunnels, just like they haven't found any evidence of Hamas in any of the hospitals, schools, mosques, and churches they have bombed in Gaza.

Hamas only exists because of Israel's occupation and it's methods of occupation.

probably not...

@Mark F that is such nonsense. Hamas is not Palestine, and Palestine isn't Hamas. Conflating wearing the Palestinian flag with support for Hamas is incorrect in ALL, not some, cases.

Ask any Likud member or their Zionist supports what their ultimate goals are. It isn't peace or a two state solution. It's the destruction of Palestine as an entity and it's people. It's literally in their manifesto.

I would because poeple need to learn to separate the israeli people from the israeli government and military. Likewise people need to also learn to separate Hamas and the Palestinian people. I support a two-state solution and the people living in those states equally.

"This isn't about Delta"

"EVERYONE can see it is about Delta."

Pick a lane, Timothy.

You need to remember that people of Palestine are humans too and they deserve to leave in peace as much as the Israeli people. Also stop pretending like this problem started on October 6th.

So basically Zionists have co-opted the word and taken it away from other Semitic people for their own exclusive use. Sounds right.

How are they breathtaking? I realize you need to keep shilling Delta via Tim Dunn and other sock puppets, but still.

Of course it didn't.

I think this is perfectly fine and valid response, and in fact, should have been the official position all along. Good job, Delta.

"Pride" has long since ceased being a gay lib thing, and become event which many LGB people feel disconnected from and embarrassed by as they watch a parade of BDSM acolytes, crawling "pups" on leashes, and heterosexual autogynephiles parade up and down the street. LGB people are no longer welcome at the event they pioneered - unless, of course, they swear fealty to the new orthodoxy.

There's lots of pointless bleating going on in these comments, but the bottom line is that Delta can enforce any uniform restriction they like. The First Amendment prevents the government from restricting free speech. Your employer, social media platforms, even your golf club, can set policies to restrict political expression whenever and however they like. If you're unhappy, then go work elsewhere.

thank you, Pete.
and, given that some people can't figure out that stating your opinion is not something your employer wants THEIR customers to hear, now no DL employees can wear any flag other than THE US FLAG - which is the same flag and no other that DL displays on its jets

Glad Delta dealt with the flag issue..USA ==USA

If the airline tried to enforce a uniform restriction that prohibited religious accessories deemed a requirement of faith and made no reasonable effort to accommodate religious employees, the airline could find itself in trouble over illegal discrimination on the basis of an employee or an applicant’s religion.

The most pro-Israeli thing that there is is to insist that Israel finds itself with a sovereign and sustainable Palestinian state across all the area of Gaza and the West Bank so that Israel can remain a Jewish majority state and stop putting a target on the back of Israelis by denying any and all legitimate national aspirations of a large Palestinian minority under Israeli domination. Otherwise Israel remains in this pickle of its choosing: choose to be an apartheid state with racist policies against Muslims and Christians in its midst or choose to barbarically ethnically cleanse the territories under its control/occupation and bury the head in the sand and hope that none of this comes back to bite Israel when WMDs become ever more widespread and even “democratized” to the extent that Israeli security ends up being to WMDs what the IDF was to Hamas on October 7th, 2023 — circumvented, and barbarically so — but then it could be an existential threat to Israel in the way that Hamas has never been to Israel. We all must hope it never comes to that, and the way for that hope to be realized is for there to be a unitary sovereign Palestinian state accepted by Israel that accepts Israel under the pre-68 boundaries.

Screaming by using all caps is just another thing that makes you a d**k.

Screaming by using all caps is just another thing that makes you a d**k.

Tim Dunn right now:
Omg. Delta hates conservative Christians and liberal Muslims. How do I deal with this when delta just announced they want to be paid by Saudi Arabia to fly to Riyadh to do nothing more than be a marketing gimmick for a murderous MBS regime bent on killing journalists

But he’ll find a way 😉
We know he will 😉

A number of top Hamas people have been killed in Gaza as well. Not all live in fancy 5 star hotels.

Just like people in Russia, China and North Korea can't pick their govt., neither can those in Gaza pick their govt.

I said political expression, not religious expression. Wearing a crucifix, turban, or hijab is religious expression, and wearing a flag pin is not.

A "terrorist state" that's kicking ass, and long may that continue.

Well to be fair, Palestine isn't and never was a country. The 2 state solution has been proposed and debated for decades but neither side is willing to agree to the others demands so it's not going to happen, wearing a Palestinian flag is part of a fad that has mostly died off despite the conflict still ongoing, people just rally and back these things and then lose interest after a few months. So while historically wearing the Palestine flag would have been normal with everyone else's flags they chose to wear it's being worn now as part of "cause". Not to mention the elected government of Palestine is continuing the conflict and not looking for a peaceful resolve anyways.

I completely agree with this decision whether because of the safety of the employees or to avoid political issues and differences. It is better to just go neutral.

This should be the way to go for all companies, a rainbow livery or logo should be more than enough. Companies should focus on service, differentiation towards customers not their employees, I'm all up for LGBT rights and inclusion but the pride thing has gone too far in the US and has been completely distorted, the current landscape doesn't help. People don't need to center everything about sexuality, corporations and companies shouldn't either.

Transport companies should stay out of politics and conflicts no matter what, this is the way to go, the US doesn't need more poralization on these defining and challenging times.

9/11. Delta Forgot.

Define genocide please...

Wearing a Palestinian flag has nothing to do with 9/11.

"Palestine isn't and never was a country"

Not exactly true.

"Not to mention the elected government of Palestine is continuing the conflict and not looking for a peaceful resolve anyways."

Well, the elected government of Israel has been continuing the occupation for decades thus being the ones who are really continuing the conflict and not looking for a peaceful resolve.

Yeah, lets not forget the thousands of Palestinian hostages being held by Israel.

See what is happening in Gaza and the occupied West Bank to see a modern gay genocide in action. Over 180,000 people killed, homes being razed, farms being burned down, homes being demolished, villages being stolen...

Good to know you support genocide enabling terrorist states.

Well, thanks to what we learned about the Hannibal Directive, a good number of those 1700 Israelis were actually done by Israel's own government. Also, apparently worth more than the 180,000 Palestinians killed by Israel so far in Gaza? It seems to be ok when Israel advocates (and is committing) the annihilation of an entire population of people/culture...

Patriotism is in the heart and mind, not a label pin, shoulder patch or even a flag. In the situations where someone wears a symbol of the nationality, it is a statement of "Us versus Them".

Yes, I agree with DL. Most people really do not understand the conflict between Hamas and Israel and even if the did they should be questioning why were 1,500 innocent Israeli's tortured slaughtered while enjoying themselves at a peaceful outdoor festival. Understand that October 7th holds a significance for the attack. Good for for DL to put a cap on the woke.

Yes, I agree with DL. Most people really do not understand the conflict between Hamas and Israel and even if the did they should be questioning why were 1,500 innocent Israeli's tortured slaughtered while enjoying themselves at a peaceful outdoor festival. Understand that October 7th holds a significance for the attack. Good for for DL to put a cap on the woke.

Airlines are neck deep in politics in the US. It’s why airlines have well-heeled lobbyists and why the airlines cozy up to government officials in various ways.

What about on El Al?

I always thought that the flag pins represented the languages a FA spoke. Silly me...
Then my wife told me that that was the case when she worked for United in the 1990s. I guess, we are just old and not hip to the fact that the flags represent a cause today

Whoever wrote the headline was seriously dishonest!! Delta NEVER banned flag pins; they banned flag pins that are not American flag pins; the flag pins ones most-often-used for in-your-face political posturing and personal intimidation. You already know who got nasty about a Palestinian flag. All you need is a picture of a gathering of right wing morons and you'll recall immediately why ALL flag pins should be banned, which the writer already mislead you about.

Thank you! Gary!! Like the secret hand signal to see if you hate ******* before you can be allowed in. It's used exactly that way in the US House and Senate, even today.

what the heck did bridarshy just say?

Your opinion not withstanding, let’s discuss the facts. There is no Palestine and there never was. Sure, throughout history there has been some country recognition but not globally. The people in Gaza elected a known terrorist organization - Hamas to represent their government. Then, as terrorists often do when they seize control, they eliminated elections. Next they declared war on Israel by crossing the border illegally to rape, pillage, burn, and kidnap Israeli victims. What EXACTLY did you expect Israel’s response to be? What would the US response be if the same thing happened here? Well, after 9/11 we invaded two countries and killed tens of thousands of people and replaced their governments. Israel is doing the same. I don’t want to se ANY pins on DL uniforms other than the US Flag.

Agree!

The funniest part of all of this is how many LGBTQ people support "Palestine" - There's zero chance you make it out of Gaza alive after declaring you are a homosexual.

This is an orchestrated Marxist movement rolling black, female, hispanic, LGBTQ, etc into one camp. Just look at origins of BLM - there's no actual benefit to blacks - only mansions for the founders - just like any general secretary of USSR.

Wake up people!.

You're right - a "Palestinian" flag supports Iran while 9/11 was financed by saudis

its hard to keep the terrorists straight

Gaza is a shithole. Given the beautiful oceanfront location, it should be an amazing tourist destination. There's a reason it's a shithole - it's their own incompetence and reliance on religion to govern.

The only islamic states with any power also have access to oil (Saudi and Iran). Some of the others have moderate dictators (UAE, Qatar, Jordan, etc) with tourism oriented economy..

all the others are 4th world shitholes. look at Pakistan which should be an amazing economy on par with India. it has the same people, brains and resources. Islam is its fundamental problem.

Which of those other countries you mentioned are under siege where an occupying force controls everything that gets in and gets out, down to the calorie? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/17/israeli-military-calorie-limit-gaza

Delta is an American carrier, with primarily domestic flights, American passengers, American flight attendants and American pilots. They are also the only major carrier to NOT have a plane flown into the WTC. 9/10 times, if a Delta flight attendant is wearing a flag pin its going to be an American Flag, because after all, "9/11 Never Forget." Well, Delta forgot.

Delta is an American carrier, with primarily domestic flights, American passengers, American flight attendants and American pilots. They are also the only major carrier to NOT have a plane flown into the WTC. 9/10 times, if a Delta flight attendant is wearing a flag pin its going to be an American Flag, because after all, "9/11 Never Forget." Delta forgot.

Religious expression can also be political expression, and at core it probably all is political expression since so-called religious expressions are fundamentally expressions of solidarity with an ideology and/or community and signal affiliation/non-affiliation with another person/party for purposes of empowerment of some sort or another.

There are too many snowflakes when it comes to non-violent expressions of political and religious expression. And this situation with wanting to ban a national flag pin is neo-political-correctness run amok and nothing but an attempt to try to get companies to “pick a side” or disappear concerns when it comes to the barbarity of the rogue Netanyahu regime.

It’s just a matter of time until these same neo-PC “Israel can do no wrong” types push to ban passengers from having such a national flag pin too or try to punish passengers for having such a national flag pin.

Haven’t you flown since 9/11? There was a very particular surge in flag pins for years thereafter. Also, Delta is fine with US flag pins. How about those “distress” darkened US flags that seem popular with the January 6th insurrectionist supporters and the upside down US flag that seems popular with the Justice Samuel Alito and Justice Clarence Thomas families? There are MAGA airline employees — just look at the DL “social media” contact person that played up anti-Palestinian/anti-Arab racism and who DL had to sideline because of that part of this controversy created by the neo-PC crowd.

Wow. You got the date wrong.

Terrorists support terrorists and wish that violence continues and disappears “the other”. Holds as much for the misanthropes who attacked Israel on October 7th as for the misanthropes laying siege on Gaza ever since. Putin’s war on Ukraine make Putin look like a generous philanthropist in comparison to Netanyahu and Netanyahu’s war on Gaza.

It’s “simply good business” Delta being Delta: calculating what is good for Delta and doing that regardless of the negative implications for others.

The flag actually existed decades before the creation of the PLO. The flag was actually around decades before the state of Israel was created.

Julia, you gotta get off whatever trash you've been reading online. That entire comment is "Bush did 9/11" and "Pizzagate" level of unhinged.

Mason, you're one of the most biased anti-Israel commentators here, who has previously stated that Israelis deserve to be killed, and you continue to repeat the lie that Hamas was founded by Israel.

Wear a pin if you speak the language. Otherwise, leave it at home.

well that's a new high and not accepted number for Gaza (its 5x what the Gaza ministry of heath reports). But its closer what the US killed in Iraq, or Saudi Arabia in Yemen, etc

Israel has supported the two state solution throughout its history and did at various points of the history offered to give up its territory, removed its citizens from whatever "Palestine" is, and even financed development of Gaza (with the funds later being used to bomb Israel in return). Every single proposal or goodwill gesture has been denied by the terrorist in power, because their only goal - quite openly stated in their manifesto - is to kill Jews.

I don't drop bombs on anyone, and my country barely has a functional army. What's your point?

The who? Are you trying to say that captured Hamas terrorists are hostages? Even the leftist left wing could not possibly claim that!

There is no country called Palestine - just a terrorist organization

For at least 3500 years Jews have inhabited the land now called Israel.

Around 660 AD a terrorist called M subjugated the Saudi peninsula with a peaceful offer to all the small villages - convert to Islam or die. (Subsequently he invaded and conquered most of southern Europe with the same message and the invaders were not thrown out until the mid 14th century).

Yet some claim that the Jewish people are colonizers and, typical of their religion, want Israeli's to convert or die. (Really just don't want them to convert). Israel chooses to exist.

Goebbels said it well - if you tell the lie often enough even you will begin to believe it.

Don't forget 9/11. After Israel you are next.