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This afternoon at around 3PM I finally got around to going to my local Chase branch and opening up a personal and business checking account to earn a total of 50,000 miles. I did this last year and it was among the easiest 50,000 miles I've ever earned, so I figured this would be an…

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 JOSH
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Joined: 17 years ago

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LUCKY,

I think one account is enough don't you think?

JOSH


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(@chris)
Joined: 18 years ago

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Last fall I was unfortunately the first one this particular branch had ever seen coming in with this offer so I spent nearly 2 hours training them on it and having to explain to the flunky I was working with and then of course her manager about the precise details of the offer. ("No, a direct deposit is NOT required," ...etc.) and even then they had to call their head office for verification. Quite an ordeal but not that bad considering it was just about worth a trip to Europe.
As to your situation, you just got an unlucky draw. I would definitely just find another branch and try it again. 25,000 miles is worth it I think.
This is maybe a good reason to always do the personal account online and then you don't have to worry about the hassle of doing 2 in person.


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(@chontz)
Joined: 16 years ago

Posts: 5

I'm eagerly monitoring this situation...I opened a personal and biz account in December and (once those miles post) am planning to do the same in 2010. If it happens to me I'll likely try another branch. Good luck!

Also, thanks for the Costco / Hyatt certificate tip. I'm going to get 1K worth as soon as I can confirm they are accepted in China.

-Chontz


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(@mrpickles)
Joined: 16 years ago

Posts: 27

Go to a differant branch or try it online.


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(@deltaPMflyer)
Joined: 17 years ago

Posts: 11

from frg ricks blog:

#4 Continental 25,000 Miles for Checking and Debit. Personal and Business Offers now Available

Use this link to get your unique coupon code for this simple personal offer. Offer now expires 6/30/10. I have always been successful within the lower priced debit card and in the new terms and conditions they state it is OK with the lower priced debit card. They typical run one personal and one business account promotion per year. CO miles never expire. You must refresh your browser for a new coupon code. If you do not have a Chase branch nearby you can sign up by calling this national number: 1-800-935-9935 or Chad or Stephanie in Ft. Collins at 970-377-9599 to open a personal account only.

UPDATE Here is a link for the business debit card. Don't forget to refresh the coupon

http://frugaltravelguy.blogspot.com/


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(@HunterSFO)
Joined: 17 years ago

Posts: 73

Hey Lucky- I had the exact same problem. Since I work in IT at a financial institution, I pushed a little harder. They opened a ticket with 3rd level support and after a bunch of calls over about 4 weeks, I was told that even though the coupon said "calendar year" they would not honor that and instead would only honor "once per social security number." I politely asked for the contact information for the legal department and informed them I would file a suit against them in small claims court. I thought that might do it, but still no response so I might actually have to make good on my threat and take them to court for the cost of the miles at whatever exorbitant price continental sells miles for.


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(@Chris)
Joined: 16 years ago

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Chase has pushed back on me too, indicating that they cannot open a business account if I do not live in the state of the branch...There are no branches where I live! I think they clearly are cutting back on these type of promos for the Frequent flyer types....remember financial institutions are the next target in the current environment.


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(@Patrick)
Joined: 17 years ago

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I would suggest opening it online. I haven't had too great of an experience with chase customer service before either. When I opened the continetal debit card online it didn't ask for my OnePass account number. I emailed CS and the response was he added it to my account, but to reconfirm after I made qualifying purchases. A few emails later I'm getting mixed responses from the team saying that it's credited to the chase account and no onepass number is needed. Blah blah blah.


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(@Elizabeth (LizzyDragon84))
Joined: 17 years ago

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Ugh, that's so frustrating. I'd try a different branch next and see if you can get a more helpful bank rep.


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(@Steve K)
Joined: 17 years ago

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at chris #7,

I am an attorney (Intellectual Property Law) admitted in NY but living in Pa and working internationally. I have a NY based chase business acct (several, in fact). Never had a problem, though the do want to see "business papers" such as incorporation or other filings and tax ids.

I also have a Wachovia business account with a DC routing number and address.

That excuse might sound good, but it is garbage.


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(@mowogo)
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Lucky, just wait a week, and we will have a FT'er as a Personal Banker with them, who would definitely work to get you your promo over all that, if not get you an even better promo.


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 Ann
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Joined: 16 years ago

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I had experienced this, check your coupon code and look in google. You must have same coupon code from last year that you used? the first six characters must not be the same from what you used last year. Google this and you will find 2 versions of coupon for business.


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(@chitownflyer)
Joined: 18 years ago

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I would try another braanch and talk to a VP or PRes of the bank if necessary, or I would cancel the account and talk with mowogo's friend whom will work with Chase in the future.


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 ed
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The coupon I printed has a footnote that says "Chase reserves the right to withdraw this offer at any time without notice. Attempts to ean multiple premiums may be voided by Chase, at its discretion.. "

That might give them 2 outs.


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(@rick ingersoll)
Joined: 18 years ago

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Chase has intrepreted for others the day the pay the bonus as the calendar year. did you receive all your points for both promos in 2009 or did some of them post in 2010?" If you 2009 biz card promo posted in 2010, that will be their next line of argument


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 Jeff
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I'm considering taking up this offer for the first time. Question: How long do you keep the accounts open? Have any of you closed the account shortly after getting the miles? I wouldn't use the Chase account as my primary account, so I'm not really interested in maintaining a direct deposit or 5 debit card transactions a month to avoid the account fee. Thanks for any advice!


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(@chitownflyer)
Joined: 18 years ago

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@Jeff, a Chas csr told me the account needs to stay open for 6 months to receive the bonus offer.


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(@heather)
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Thanks for all the feedback, folks! Both premiums posted last year, so it's not that anything posted this year.

@ Ann -- That's VERY interesting. Do all six digits have to be different, or just one or two of the first six digits? Might make another quick run to the bank...


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(@oldguy)
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My suggestion...

Send a letter to Chase customer service with a cc to their legal department (fax is best). If you don't hear back or can't resolve to your satisfaction, repeat a couple of months later however also send a copy to legal certified mail. Repeat a third time a few months after this. You have now given them ample time to resolve the matter.

File a claim in small claims court. I'd suggest that you file for an amount equal to the value the 50,000 points would entitle you to towards a tickets. So if for example a first class ticket to europe costs $12k and 120k points file for $5,000.

When you finally hear from Chase (and you will) explain the situation calmly and offer to settle for the miles plus your filing and serving costs. If they refuse go to court.

Be prepared to show documents and be able to prove they are from the website, are genuine and the date printed. Carefully lay out your argument.

You would probably sue from breach of contract. Do some research so you understand the meaning of offer, acceptance and compensation so you can assert you had a binding contract (offer is pretty clear, acceptance could be you went to open the account and compensation might be the time you invested but think it through).

You might try and assert fraud, but that gets complex on the other hand a California court just allowed punitive damages for the first time in a case that didn't involve personal injury which is a big deal. The fraud could be that they knowingly made the offer with no intention of keeping it. You could assert that if they continued to post the offer after telling you it wasn't valid as written without changing it to what it really was so make sure to give them notice of the alleged fraud, when you write them. I doubt they will be aware of the California case so they will probably dismiss your assertion as coming from someone without much knowledge, but you could hold it in reserve. I certainly wouldn't discuss the matter as part of any discussion over a settlement.

Enjoy. These guys think they can make offers they don't intend to keep or be sloppy and change the rules and no one will call them on it. Fortunately its easy to prove them wrong. That is why we have small claims courts.

And class action lawsuits.


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(@George Pap.)
Joined: 16 years ago

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Well, I am not surprised as I am still trying to get half of the 50k CO miles for doing this last year. Back and forth with the Resolution team and last vm he left me was to call CO!!!!!!Yikes, back on the phone again Monday am...By the time I get the second 25k I may be dead or the company bankrupt or merged:-)


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 Ann
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Joined: 16 years ago

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Here's the 2 business bonus certificate that you can use, both have the same expiration June 30, but then they have different link...

https://www.chase.com/index.jsp?pg_name=ccpmapp/shared/marketing/page/Continental_Consumer_9938

example coupon code:
3678339000269442

https://www.chase.com/index.jsp?pg_name=ccpmapp/shared/marketing/page/businessCoup&ID=0000009898

example coupon code
Coupon Code: 3546852000348103

grab the one that you haven't use above.

good luck!


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 Ann
(@Ann)
Joined: 16 years ago

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Sorry here's correct link... these are the 2 coupons i brought to the branch just to make sure i am covered..

3546852000320593 - https://www.chase.com/index.jsp?pg_name=ccpmapp/shared/marketing/page/businessCoup&ID=0000009898
3546360000266145 - https://www.chase.com/ccp/index.jsp?pg_name=ccpmapp/shared/marketing/page/businessCoup&ID=0000009893


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 Russ
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Joined: 16 years ago

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Lucky, I had exactly the same problem with my business account (as well as my family members accounts) . You need to have your banker to call their marketing department and they will push it through with a special overwrite code.
Good luck.


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(@HunterSFO)
Joined: 17 years ago

Posts: 73

@Ann and @Lucky - the solution that Ann presented will not solve our problem. The difficulty is that our social security numbers are already tagged as not being allowed to even attempt to enter a coupon code on the "personal banker's" system. Therefore, even if we have another code, there will not be anywhere to enter it.

Since I work in IT for a bank, the personal banker let me see the entire process on his screen. The coupon code field is "greyed out" and won't let you enter anything, and has a side note showing the account# and date from when I opened my first business account.

In my department we would have someone manually edit the SQL tables on the back end, but Chase doesn't seem to be willing to do that. Since this is a flaw in how the software was coded, I don't see any other solution.

Thanks for the suggestion though.


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 Ann
(@Ann)
Joined: 16 years ago

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Well i opened my business checking last Dec 2009. I opened my new business checking March 30.

Now, I don't have the new miles on my account posted yet but i was able to open it at a branch here at UT.

I even have the receipt of the bonus miles -- Tracking number. As what Richard Ingersoll said earlier they might say that i had my bonus miles this year posted for business but at least i have something to show them that they did allow me to enroll. And i can go to the branch for them to follow it up for me.

No harm in trying. 25,000 miles is 25,000 miles. I should have waited for the mileathon but then they just extended it the day i applied for the offer.

again, good luck!


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(@kelly)
Joined: 16 years ago

Posts: 5

I signed up for this promo several days ago. The banker I had wasn't very good either. My boyfriend signed up for the same deal at another bank and his guy gave him all these papers confirming the miles, whereas my guy did not.

One thing I haven't seen anyone mention about this offer is that you have to make 5 or more non-PIN transactions with the debit cards every month or you are charged a small fee. (I believe this may be waived for 3 months for the business card only.)

One of the accounts (I forget which one) says in the fine print that you must keep it open a minimum of 6 months.

It's going to be a PITA to have to remember to make 5 purchases with both cards every month.


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(@Mackenzie)
Joined: 16 years ago

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I posted on flyertalk about this just a few weeks ago. Here's that:

My husband and I each opened a personal and business account at a branch last weekend. I had done both last summer and he had done both last fall. Mine went fine, but when the banker went in to redeem the coupon for my husbands business account it didn't work. She got into a huge arguement with me over the meaning of 'calendar year' (from the T&C's). I spent a long time trying to point out the fact that a calendar goes from January to December and she insisted it just meant 12 mos. She was obviously wrong, but she wouldn't budge and I wouldn't give up. She eventually agreed to speak with her manager on monday. She finally called me back and said that the reason the system wouldn't take the coupon code was that even though it was a different code from the account opened last fall it had the same first 7 digits, which the computer recognized as the same promotion even though it is a different calendar year. When I pulled up a new coupon code from the links here on FT and tried refreshing I always came up with the same first 7 digits. I finally did a google search and came up with a coupon with a different first 7 digits. Sent her an e-mail, she input it, and we are on our way to another 50k miles!


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(@Henry)
Joined: 16 years ago

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@kelly--if you didn't get the coupon receipts then you're probably not going to see the bonus miles ... i did this promo for the first time on 10th march 2010 and got both bonuses credited (-2,500 that's supposed to come from continental, according to the coupon receipt for the 15000 bonus) were credited to my onepass account on the 29th of march. there's quite a bit more time before they have to have credited everything so i'm in good shape.

it's easy for me to get five debit transactions per month--my office cafeteria takes cards, starbucks takes cards for small purchases, ...


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(@kelly)
Joined: 16 years ago

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Thanks Henry.... I scanned the sheets that my boyfriend got from HIS banker confirming the extra miles and just emailed them to MY banker telling him I need them for my accounts.... I think my guy is going to be clueless. not cool.


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