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IAG Finalizes Order For Up To 150 Boeing 737 MAXs

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In June 2019 at the Paris Air Show, International Airlines Group (IAG), the parent company of British Airways, Iberia, Aer Lingus, and Vueling, signed a letter of intent to acquire up to 200 Boeing 737 MAX aircraft.

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(@Nikojas)
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Let's hope the Max 8-200s go to Vueling so we can avoid them more easily.


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I'd like to see the remaining A320neo family on order with Vueling transferred to BA and they instead get these


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 RKC
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Aer Lingus seem to be picking up 6 A320neos this summer (4 that were meant for smartavia and 2 direct from airbus) suggesting that IAG will keep aer lingus on the a320neo family in future. Maybe BA’s LGW operations will get them? The MAX 8-200’s would be competitive economically out of LGW against the likes of easyJet ryanair and TUI


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Those MAX 8-200's scream "budget airline" - so if they're not going to Vueling, IAG has lost it's mind. Bad enough they're choosing 737 MAX10's over the A321neo, but the 8-200 cattle car sounds like torture.

Also, doesn't Aer Lingus have A321LR's in service? Those are most recent generation, IIRC.


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(@Clayton)
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There was, and remains, a lot of pushback from BA FFs about Max's being added to the fleet. It was actually taken onboard by, then, management but of course it's anybody's guess what they eventually do regarding that pushback.

The comments about at least some of them being placed at LGW for the new EuroFlyer brand so it has seat density to compete with EZY and TUI is logical and although no blog I've read about this has yet picked up on it. Boeing did build a maintenance hanger and facilities there only a couple years back which would add a reason for placement there but at the same time none of the crew based there has flown on a Boeing single aisle in longer than I can remember so 8t would require both pilots and CC to undergo total retraining. Whilst that actually applies across IAG as a whole the unit costs of that training are substantially higher in the UK than in other brands locations and we aren't talking small change in that difference either.

Vueling is the 'natural' choice simply by pax demographic and ULCC model so I think we might see some reallocation of 320 fleet across brands feeding them to EF in a swap out / cascade approach. They already fly into LGW so could avoid the need to run empty ferry flights for maintenance. IB express being another contender


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(@James)
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Well I have an observation regarding Boeing 737 Max.
After the crash incident of two aircraft in the similar way, the faulty operative system and malfunctioing of software are pointed out. The reliability of the aircraft is at stake. Hence it is not a safe aircraft to fly with.


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(@Eskimo)
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I just love comments like this.

Under your observation logic, same could be said with Boeing? Hence Boeing is not a safe aircraft?


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 LHR
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Let's hope those planes go to BA. I see a lot of negative risk for Vueling's operation plans. Financially and safety.


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(@Jules)
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It doesn’t matter which airline it goes to, you can’t use software to get yourself out of an engineering design flaw, ie them engines should not be getting used on that airframe. The MAX should be scrapped and back to the drawing board


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