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Introduction: Falling In Love With Japan

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Welcome to my next trip report, covering travel in ANA first class to Japan using an incredible mileage deal, as well as stays at several hotels that I’ve been wanting to stay at for a while.

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Share your questions, experiences, and thoughts below.


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(@chitravelertim)
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Ben,

Japan is my absolute favorite place in the world....so far.

A great way to see Kyoto is by bicycle. My partner and I did the Kyoto Cycle Tour project a few years back and loved it. It was a bit pricey for a private tour but well worth it! We did a full day tour. Though I’d recommend winter over summer when biking all day. It was a bit chilly but you can wear layers. Here’s a link to their site:
https://www.kctp.net/new/en/index.html


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Japan is an incredible country aside from the Xenophobia. Then again, without much outside influence and diversity they have maintained the peace and calm that makes the country so special. So you can say I am a little conflicted. I lived in Japan for 3 years and saw how society as a whole polices itself, to the point that where I lived the cops didn't even carry guns.

Reading this intro takes me and makes me want to go back. Time to start planning.....


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 Gene
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@ Ben -- Sure seems like a short trip to Japan. You should explore more of this amazing country.


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 Matt
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I visited Kyoto and Tokyo last summer. I did not like either city at all. I thought Japanese people are very fake in their smiler and the sexism is so rampant that it bothered me to the hilt. People felt like robots with no souls. I went to an NHK Symphony Concert and never heard Strauss waltzes played with such precision but no soul. I would only return back for a work visit.


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If you're considering flying JAL to Japan, keep in mind that they now appear to be blocking award redemptions from selecting window seats: https://www.seat31b.com/2019/07/jal-blocking-seat-selection-on-award-tickets/


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 stvr
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No Avios for NRT-NGO?


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 Clem
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Too bad you guys didn't get to stay in a ryokan or explore the countryside! I'm looking forward to reading the Aman Tokyo review, as my experience there last year was... Interesting.


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(@Endre)
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Japan is one of my favourite countries in the world. I regularly fly to Tokyo and Osaka with CX or JAL in paid First class. In both cities I usually book a suite at Conrad properties. Their exexcutive lounge offer exquisities views of the cities


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(@Patrick Oh!)
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Now I’d call that a teaser! I’m eager to get more details, as I’m likely to undertake my 1st visit before the end of year.
If any readers Have visited Japan or Hong Kong as a single traveler (and not involving a business trip), let me know what your experience was doing that and any tips you have. I’m not concerned about my safety so much as feeling isolated with the language and cultural barriers ala “Lost in Translation.” Some friends of mine lived there for many years on the West Coast in a small town. Their experience was after many years people they would see on a regular basis continued to treat them as strangers and outsiders, and they never felt integrated despite learning the language. Then again, my niece (of mixed race but not Asian), who was pretty fluent in Japanese when she arrived, did a year in a high school with locals and Brit and American teens and she was treated like a rock star! Ha!


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(@santastico)
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Have you stayed at The Prince Gallery Tokyo? Wondering how that compares to the Ritz since you said the Ritz is the best Marriott in town. I stayed at the Prince Gallery and it was amazing.


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 Bill
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I visit Japan every year. Not my very favorite place (in top 5 though) but there is soo much to explore about it that it keeps pulling me back.


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 Lou
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Have been to Japan 3 times since 2017 and would plan a trip back in a heartbeat


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Thanks @Ben - really looking forward to the reviews!


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 Mous
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I went to Japan first time this year in April using the 90k Avios Iberia offer. We took our 3 years old and 9 months old baby.
I must admit I did too fall in love with Japan. Best holiday ever and the pastries is definitely better than France. Oh boy!!!
We visited Tokyo, Kyoto ( my favourite) and Osaka. We used our Japan Railway ( a must have if not flying ) we took the Hello Kitty train for kids too ( I absolutely loved it).
I will definitely consider visiting Japan again.
We conclude our holiday in Singapore which is still my number one favourite place to visit. Seeing the Jewel at changi was amazing.


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 ECR
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Have you been to Andaz Tokyo before (I know Nick has reviewed it)... just curious how youd compare the RC and Aman to that, as I've never had a better Citi hotel than that Andaz. Would love to find out the other two are at least as strong.

I know the RC brand gets a bad rap in general on reviews but the RC in Kyoto is fantastic so maybe the brand is stronger in Asia (or at least Japan) than elsewhere?


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Just to put it out there before your next trip - going to Kyoto and staying a big western chain hotel would be an absolute waste. Thee are so many unique and remarkable places to stay in Kyoto.


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(@Robert Schrader)
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Why on Earth would you go to Nagoya?


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(@michael-m)
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I'm certainly hoping to hear that your experience at the Ritz-Carlton Tokyo was the delightful one. The lounge experience I had there was one I will always treasure, not only because of the beautiful views and the delicious cuisine but also because the staff there were so kind and engaging. The guest services manager of the hotel was quite charming and really seemed to enjoy her customer interactions.


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 Tom
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Robert,

Nagoya is a great city, and the 4th biggest in Japan. I spent 5 days there last year.

There are a number of sights but for me a visit to the nearby Toyota factory tour is a must. Otherwise it is a very pleasant place to stay between Tokyo and Iska/Kyoto, and more relaxed than either.


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It is very easy to fall in love in which Japan, a country I have visited many times and never tire of visiting. In fact, the N Asia portion of my 2019 Year-end Asian Escapade(tm), before flying South to consume my award stay and trip highlight at WA Maldives, will include a stop in Tokyo, where I redeemed WoH points to stay in a Club room at Hyatt Regency Tokyo (right across the street from Hilton Tokyo 🙂 ).

My favorite destination in Japan is Kyoto (gotta get out of the city and go to the visit Shinto shrines in the mountains, like the Kifune Ugenta, and have a traditional meal there too!). I am sure that now that @Lucky has "seen the light", Kyoto will appear as magical as it does to me. Also, while in the area, be sure to visit Nara and its famous deer park and Todai-ji, a Buddhist temple and largest wooden structure in the world (the Buddha statue it houses. might be the largest in the world too)...


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(@jacob-mccarthy)
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I love Japan! One of my favorite places I've been!


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 DCS
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LOL...that was supposed to be "...easy to fall in love with Japan..."


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(@tahsin)
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Hiroshima (and Miyajima) are underrated. I've been to Japan multiple times in the recent years, and this was the first time I had a chance to visit Hiroshima and I would highly recommend it if you have the time and already seen Kyoto, Osaka, and Tokyo.


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(@innosu)
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It's fun how people were asking why Nagoya.

People really don't know about Shima region don't they?


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 Ak
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Japan is in fashion right now and vastly overrated. So many more fun places to visit. Luckily, it does serve as a nice hub for award travel tho.


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 Timo
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@Endre I love the Tokyo Conrad having spent a part of my honeymoon there. It is not as widely discussed as the other high-end hotels in Tokyo but I think just as wonderful and in a relatively quiet part of the city.


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(@JeffL)
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You should've tried to visit Fukoka. I would take that city over Nagoya.


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(@modsiw)
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Taking a hike across Japan country side is absolutely a must do.
Eg. kumanokodo Kohechi


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(@chancer)
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@ Patrick Oh! - Language can definitely be a barrier since English seems to be spoken by far fewer people in Japan than other places in Asia that I've visited. That doesn't mean you'll have a hard time, but it may seem frustrating having to point at those picture translation tools that staff in places such as restaurants and train stations keep around to help them communicate. Don't expect to see many signs in English either as I once spent several minutes staring at a map of the Tokyo subway trying to locate Tokyo when the only map on the platform was in Japanese (simple solution: always carry a copy of the map in English). And yes I was a single traveler and navigating the city on my own without any problem except for that testy map. Regarding Hong Kong, if you don't venture around the city that much, you may not even run into anyone who doesn't speak English.


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(@EthFlyer)
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Ugh another trip to Japan that's all Tokyo. At least you're not staying at points only places, all the best hotels in Japan don't accept points. Do white people even eat Japanese food other than ramen and "sushi"?


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 Zaki
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Japan has a lot of underrated gems outside of the big cities like Tokyo, Osaka and Kyoto. You should give them a try! I've traveled to 15 different prefectures so far and each of them have their own unique charms.


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(@Emily)
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Tokyo is nice, but

Osaka, Kyoto and Hokkaido and of course Asahidake for the snowboarding enthusiast - love :*


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 JBM
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I’m going back to Japan in September. I travel internationally 4-6 times a year, but completely out of character for me I am fangirl-ing HARD over this trip for some odd reason!


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(@MattR)
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I'll be interested to follow this trip report. My wife and I just returned from our first visit to Japan, and also flew ANA F. It will be interesting to compare experiences.

I will say that our initial impression was that, while beautiful with so many unique places to explore, we didn't find Japan particularly welcoming. There were those who seemed to be upset merely by our presence on the trains and in some restaurants. That said, while feeling a bit isolated, we absolutely enjoyed the experience and would like to return, bringing our children next time.


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(@angel b)
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Cant wait to read, I myself am planning a Japan trip with my sister when I found great space in ANA F with lifemiles for this spring. Have been hotel shopping, but still unsure, so I am looking forward to your reviews on this trip.


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(@Kelcy)
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Can't wait to see the rest of the review. I plan on visiting Japan on the way to or from Korea soon.

Kelcy


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(@Miranda)
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Reading this from my hotel in Tokyo. Couldn't agree more. I've spent 2/3 of my life coming to Japan, but it took a good many trips for me to finally GET the place. Now it's **finally** one of my absolute favorite places, in no small part due to the way Japanese culture is prioritized here. Multiculturalism is ok when people are willing to put their host country's customs first. This is executed to perfection in Japan (my favorite Indian restaurant is here... owned and operated by an Indian family). I'm a black female (so take this at face value!)


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 JB
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I stayed at the Grand Hyatt Tokyo in Rappongi Hills in late June/July and it is also a really amazing hotel which greatly exceeded my already high expectations for a Grand Hyatt. The rooms were above average for the brand and the service was incredible. It was near the Ritz-Carlton and we went to the mall a couple of times which is right below the Ritz.


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(@Matthewsf)
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Ben: About to plan a booking there as I have a little over 100K+ Singapore Kris Flyer miles about to expire and need to book 3 tix, probably Business not First since one of the passengers is a young child. Will transfer over my Chase Ultimate Rewards to fulfill the remaining miles needed. Was curious what would be the best option:

A) Get all 3 tix on Singapore using Kris Miles?
B) Book 1 on ANA using Kris Miles (as a Star Alliance Partner) and 2 on ANA via Virgin Atlantic like you did?
C) Book 1 on Singapore using Kris Miles and 2 on Singapore via United Mileage Plus (probably doesn’t make sense as far as cost and availability)?
D) Something else that I’m missing?

Departure city is San Francisco. Thanks for the feedback.


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