US Airways Flights Bookable Using British Airways Avios

Wouldn't this preclude there has to be some kind of adjustment to the Avios awards soon...I can't imagine this is sustainable, in light of the fact that there are so many very high price tickets on shorthaul flights on the east coast.

What a great deal though, for me especially as a PHL based flyer.

@ Nathan -- For what it's worth, domestic economy class award redemptions don't cost partner airlines all that much, so I don't necessarily think this will cause an adjustment to the British Airways award chart.

Now if only US Air still had Vegas as a mini hub... it would have been nice to be able to visit Las Vegas from California anytime at the low price of 4500 Avios!

Most importantly, what's USAir's milesAAver award availability? I was looking at several non-stop flights from CLT to various locations in 2014 and I was disappointing. In contrast, AAs it pretty good.

@ ABC -- Oddly US Airways has excellent domestic first class award availability, while economy class award availability can be a bit tougher to come by. It's not, just not amazing.

so Avios sees US Air domestic first class as real first, not biz, right? this means triple Avios, correct?
thanks.

@ Lantean -- Yep, sadly.

How does BA price the award with a connection? IE. TYS-CLT-DCA?

@ Johnny -- Their award pricing is cumulative and per segment, so you'd pay 9,000 Avios one-way for that (4,500 Avios per segment).

a quick question.....How can I search for award seats on CX and JL by using US miles? by JAL website? or BA website? I did and I searched for the seats this late june and January, 2015? there're no award seats at all? So, is there a website that can tell me the number of available seats? thank you

This makes me so, so happy! I frequently fly from Washington, DC to Pittsburgh. Washington Reagan airport is so much more convenient, but US Airways has monopoly on this route and can charge sometimes $400+ roundtrip for a 30 minute flight. Sometimes trek all the way to Baltimore to get cheaper flights on Southwest Airlines between BWI-PIT. I just checked for some weekends in the upcoming months I'll be visiting family, and flight availability is plentiful on BA's website. And only 4500 Avios each way. This is definitely a win for me!

Is it me or it's not as a big of a deal as it seemed to be?

Coach Saver award availability is terrible on US Airways which is probably even worse than freaking Delta and First class is 3 times more than Coach.

How is this any good?

My comment above was referring for domestic. Sorry, I did not check the international flights. I assumed a lot of people would be interested in redeeming Avios for short domestic flights

@ Chris -- Availability isn't AMAZING, but it's actually fairly good on most shorthaul flights in my experience. And I think transatlantic flights without fuel surcharges are a big win as well.

Is PHL-LHR availability on US Air showing up on the British Airways website yet? I'm interested in flying LGA-PHL-LHR as a way to get around surcharges from NYC-LHR.

How did you generate these maps? It looks like GCMap, but I can't seem to figure out how to generate it. It would be great to use this tool to find uses of Avios from a particular airport (e.g. LHR) without going destination by destination.

@ Tyler -- I used gcmap.com and entered in the individual airport codes manually, but if you want to create the shaded "zones" you'd enter 649mi,1150mi@LHR.

@ Anthony -- In general I recommend using aa.com to search for US Airways award space first. I see some transatlantic US availability on BA's website now, though not all.

I really, really hope that after the merger US "first" (business) class will follow AA rules and will only cost double the miles.

Anyway, I guess now I have to find an excuse to visit Phoenix and Charlotte (within 7,500 mi limit of Houston).

How good is US Airways about releasing last minute availability, either domestic or international?

Since BA's award chart is segment-based, can economy and business segments be combined? e.g. YOW-PHL at 4,500 points in economy (it's a CRJ anyway) then PHL-LHR at 40,000 points in business?

@ CP@YOW -- yes, with BA you can pick whatever class you want since it's just a bunch of one-way point A to point B.

In your case, they don't have YOW-LHR loaded (yet?) so searching YOW_LHR will give an error message but if you can book it as separate flights; in case you are curious, here are the fees:

YOW-PHL: 4,500 Avios + $66 (economy)
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PHL-LHR: 20,00/30,000 Avios + $249 (economy/premium economy) or 40,000/60,000 + $434 (business/first)

Hope this helps!

@ Lucky -- are there are issues with BA site not seeing AA availability for some routes? I'd priced out a ton of IAHDFW tickets previously but right now no availability for next month even though AA has 12.5K Saver every day. There are a few days when it tries to send me DFW-CLT-IAH on US... Weird!

Hope they fix it soon since have to go through DFW for a lot of flights on OW 🙁

Oops.. Meant to write "are there any issues". My bad!

@ Ming -- They're somewhat good but not amazing. I find they're not all that active about their inventory management, so they don't always release space even with lots of empty seats.

@ CP@YOW -- Sure, though you'd either need to book the segments separately online or otherwise call to book.

@ Ivan Y -- Hmmm, 99% of the time I find it's accurate, but once in a while there's a small discrepancy, which sounds like the case here.

Will you give the Envoy Suite another shot (I don't really think you'll get Carolyn not Ms. Peggy again)?

I found my ideal flight with US metal on AA.com but not BA.com. Any idea what to do other then calling in?

I do want to use Avios but also want to avoid BA call center..

@ Keven -- Unfortunately calling in might be the only option.

1)Is it a possibility that I could find something PHL-DUB on US using Avios?

2)If I can find something from PHL-LHR, do I need to find something that is US Airways for the flight home to avoid fuel surcharges?

@ MissChele -- Yes, US Airways flies from Philadelphia to Dublin, and they charge 20,000 Avios each way in economy. You would need to fly US Airways, Aer Lingus, or Air Berlin to avoid the fuel surcharges if redeeming Avios.

Chris is right and Lucky is wrong: US domestic coach award availability is poor. Look some more and you will see this. You can almost never find US award seats on any day remotely close to a holiday or other peak travel day. They never load any seats. Their transatlantic award availability tends to be equally poor. When US was in the Star Alliance, I joked (accurately, I believe) that Lufthansa has more award seats to Europe than US did even though LH had one flight and US had 20+ flights.

Hopefully, when the airline systems merge, the combined airline has at least AA's availability and not US's. But I'm not terribly optimistic about that. In the meantime, US redemptions through Avios are theoretically fantastic and practically difficult.

Trying to book WAS - AUA . I see lots of availability on AA.com, for Economy AAnytime. There is no availability for Economy MileSAAver.

When I search BA.com, there is no availability, even if I break up the segments WAS-MIA, MIA-AUA.

Does BA.com only show the Economy MileSAAver awards? Not regular Economy AAnytime Awards?

@ Shawn -- Correct, they only show saver award space. You can't book standard award space through partner airlines.

Ok, thanks Lucky! That is definitely good to know!

Can I use Avios to fly USAirways from Phoenix to Newark (NJ)? if yes, all Phx/Newark flights or just certain flights?

@ Bobbye -- If they're operated by US Airways and have award space then absolutely.

Thanks. I read somewhere (I think) that only 60 USAir flights would be in Oneworld.

@ Bobbye -- Nope, the "entire" airline is in oneworld.

I can not get any flights thru BA on AA. Please explain!

@ Dawn -- There has to be saver availability, maybe try checking different dates?

@ Lucky -- actually, Ben, I think there's something wrong with BA site (and not just IAH-DFW nonstop I informed you about).

For example, if looking at just AA flights, AA site shows 2 nonstop and 4 one-stop DFW-LAX saver flights for 5/14/14 but BA site pulls up only 1 nonstop. On 5/15/14, AA site shows just 2 nonstops and BA shows 1 nonstop again (same AA2407 flight as on 5/14); same story for 5/16. Stranger still, for 5/17/14 AA site shows 1 nonstop and 3 one-stop flights but BA has 3 (!) nonstops and non one-stops.

Any idea what could be going on here? I thought that before US merger, BA and AA systems were pretty much in sync with each other. Now, it's hard to complain when BA shows more flights AA itself but as you can see from above, mostly that's not the case.

@Lucky I found flights on AA then went to BA and they say they don't service the route. Will only show European destinations. Is there a trick? THANKS!

This is what I got from the Executive Club at BA. As you can see, it says U.S. Airways will add 60 destinations. Not all, just 60!!

Earn double Avios with US Airways
Earn double Avios when you fly with US Airways, the newest member of the oneworld® alliance
US Airways has recently joined the world’s leading quality global airline alliance oneworld®. To celebrate, Executive Club Members can now earn double Avios when you book a flight operated and marketed by US Airways and British Airways codeshare flights.
US Airways will add 60 destinations to the oneworld map – most in its US home but also three in Canada and one in Mexico – along with its key hubs of Charlotte, Philadelphia, Phoenix and Washington DC's Reagan National, expanding oneworld's presence across the USA, particularly throughout the East Coast and across the North Atlantic. The addition of US Airways represents the latest landmark in oneworld's biggest membership expansion yet.
Customers flying with the airline can now enjoy all the benefits oneworld® members offer, such as an extensive choice of flight connections and fares, the ability to earn and redeem Avios and an array of privileges and rewards. Book with US Airways and fly before 30 June 2014 to claim double Avios.

@ Dawn -- That's odd, may I ask the route?

@ Ivan Y -- There do are unfortunately seem to be some sync issues between their systems. Don't have an explanation, other than the fact that the space is bookable by phone. Very frustrating indeed.

Tried to call in tonight for a booking - looks like they have limited hours again for US bookings. Any personal experience with this?

@ Ryan -- The hours never changed. You can, however, phone the UK or Singapore call center during their local business hours, which more or less means you can book tickets "around the clock" (though I'd suggest using Skype/Google Voice so it doesn't get too expensive).

Quick Question: I am trying to book CLT-BDL in august. On US Airways site, I see few days with saver availability (12.5K each way), but when I try to book the same on BA, I get zilch. Nothing shows up. Any clue why is this happening? Will calling BA.com resrvation desk help?

@ vinay -- It's a glitch, if you call BA it should be bookable over the phone.