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American AAdvantage Hawaiian Airlines Award Rule Change

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American AAdvantage has many airline partners, both in oneworld and not in oneworld. One of the nice things is that as long as the other award rules are met, you can generally mix and match airlines on a single award as much as your heart desires. There are of course some restrictions, and per JonNYC…

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Diamond
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well this is pretty annoying... considering how many frequencies HA has and their availability is decent... how long did Douggie have to think about this one?
is Suzanne going to be shocked when we say we don't like it?


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This isn't actually a new rule, as far as I know. I believe it has been in place for quite some time. Jon just posted the actual rule definition, but I've never been able to price HA as part of a transatlantic award at least as far back as I can recall.

Would be nice if this rule weren't in place, but pretty sure it's not a change.


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(@Geoff)
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I think it is a recent change. I booked HNL-LAX-LIM-CUZ RT on HA and LA just last month without any issues. For those that are Hawaii based I think this is a big hit, in addition HA's a330 J is better than AA's 757 Eisenhower seats.


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@ Lantean -- I don't know why it happened, but frankly I don't think it was that "high level." Or if we're going to say it is, I guess we should also give "Douggie" credit for loosening routing rules on Qatar, eh? 😉


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@ Gary -- I booked a ticket with HA/BA as recently as last month, so I do think it's at least somewhat new.


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The decision to use the word 'Transatlantic' rather than 'Europe' seems deliberate to me. If so, this would then also include tickets to/from Africa or Middle East/India too.


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@ TEX277 -- That's my interpretation as well.


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(@Scott)
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AAdvantage flyer: Dear Suzanne, last spring, when you removed oneworld Explorer awards and stopovers with no advance notice, you said you were surprised that members were upset and that these awards were "rarely used."

I'm so glad that you listened to members and are giving us advance notice of program changes. I really appreciate you being true to your word from a few months ago; this bodes well for the future of the program.

Suzanne: There are only two other network carriers, and they are in many ways worse than AAdvantage. This is a "technical" program change that does not impact many passengers. I'm shocked anyone noticed or is impacted by it. Stay tuned for more integration updates!

(if she were to actually bother to respond; she never responded to my letter from earlier this spring)


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Diamond
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@Scott

LOL!
good one.
😉


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 Ivan
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I just booked one award like that 2 hours ago, priced normally. Just call and book don't just trust the website


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@ Ivan -- Do you mind sharing what route you booked?


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So I'm guessing if you flew from the East or another direction as long as you don't fly Transatlantic or South America it's OK?
I think we will see more of this nickle and dime stuff instead of a drastic devalue or change in this program until at least 2016. Just my guess.


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(@Vicky)
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It must be a change as I was able to book one of these in February. Flew Lisbon to LHR (overnight stop) onto Seattle and thru to Honolulu all in First for standard redemption rates. At that time I was able to book it online.


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@ DaninMCI -- Where else would you be going? In theory, sure.


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