Bleh, well this is disappointing. Earlier I covered how the Alaska Airlines and Singapore Airlines partnership is being scaled back considerably. That’s not the only partnership where that’s happening, as it’s going to be a similar story for Alaska and LATAM. Thanks to Bjarne for flagging this.
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Glad I just went to Argentina and Chile on an AS LATAM award earlier this year.
Just another reason why I am glad I decided on the Amex business Platinum card now instead of the Atmos one.
Why didn't you get both? Isn't like there is a requirement to only get one of them!
You didn't get swept up by the massive Atmos credit card peddling this site did for the last two weeks?
Yep. Done Chile two years ago and will do Argentina this year, glad to have used the miles. I know this one would be among the first to go, so I really made a point of going to South America whenever my schedule allows.
As for LATAM, I wonder how long some of its partnerships from the LAN side (BA/QR/QF) and from the TAM side (LH) will last. I do expect VS partnership to last.
There is no way I would be able to meet the spending requirements of both in the amount of time needed to get the bonus points of them so I had to choose just one. The 250K bonus Amex offered me was something I couldn’t turn down. I like being able to transfer points to different programs also instead of being stuck with just one.
Really? So what does this mean for the Atmos program especially if other partners terminate their partnership?
Based on the plethora of posts of this program over the last 2 weeks, I was led to believe that Atmos was the next best thing to Costco's cranberry and walnut bread.
With Iberia they even have some reciprocal elite benefits!
I don't think DL is particularly bothered about those partnerships though as its transatlantic JV is restricted to North America and the southernmost destination of VS in the Western hemisphere is Grenada.
As I have said, there is no way that AS could continue with the multitude of other airline partner programs even as it develops its own international flying. It makes no sense for them to help other airlines that compete directly against some of AS' own services and, in the case of Latam, AS' primary competitor, Delta.
Yes, but...
Based on my spot check, LATAM J availability at the far end of the booking window (07/29/2026 as of today) on Atmos are already zero-out on MIA-SCL, MEX-SCL, CUN-SCL etc. Qantas can see some of them, Qatar can see some, LH can see some, just not for AS.
The only J seat AS can still book now is -- surprise -- ATL-LIM. Delta cleared the plate but forget its own base.
I surely hope you are right. Then we can still have MEX-SCL J seat on 30K LH miles.
Atmos did a really great job polishing the furniture before announcing the inevitable.
Meanwhile Citi rolled out a really weak premium card (Elite) together with the very best of bread and butter in the form of Strata Premier / Strata Regular / DoubleCash with TY point transfers to AA.
I’m happy to keep hitting singles and doubles with the AA ecosystem. Still by far the easiest path to OWE with the least spend, especially for those of us taking advantage of AA Hotels.
Not really surprised that that one's lasted (at least until recent times) due to Korean not wanting to rock the boat during their merger approvals. But like you said, it'll be shocking if that relationship sticks around much longer.
With the concessions Alaska was forced to make by the DOT with the merger re its loyalty program not devaluing I couldn’t understand how the economics would work out. Now I’m starting to see how they were able to agree.
Sure am glad I didn’t make any speculative transfers to Hawaiian miles from cc programs. I suspect more of these quasi devaluations to come
Wasn’t this highlighted as one of the massive benefits for applying for the new Alaska credit cards ?
You must be delusional to think that AA devaluation isn’t coming in the next 12 months.
this is, per industry insiders, more of a temporary remission given how badly Delta is struggling in Seattle
Korean isn't allowed to drop any pre-merger partners for a set amount of time as one of the conditions.
The AA devaluation is already here and continuing. Eyes wide open. Building a transferable point currency has always made the most sense versus with any particular airline. I wish TY transferred to Aeroplan but still plenty of partners including AA which has best redemptions of the big 3. Some value to be had with Atmos but could say that about lots of programs. Stick with basic principles and be happy with singles and don’t expect home runs.
temporary remission? AS isn't going to reinstate loyalty program relations that it is now cancelling
If anything, AS is realizing - as I said before - that it makes no sense for AS to have loyalty program relationships with carriers against which it competes for longhaul passengers. Either another carrier is your friend or it is not; AS tried to be friends w/ everyone in SEA not named DL and then quickly realized as soon as it wanted to fly longhaul international that it was helping not only DL's friends but also many other airlines that were paying less for loyalty program seats even as AS spent more to keep passengers.
You came up w/ your own false conclusion and then twisted the narrative - which is exactly backwards of what is actually happening.
Wow… just flew to Easter island on Latam business class for 60k Alaskan miles. Only cost an extra 10k to add the 5 hour leg to Easter Island. Such a great sweet spot…. Sad to see it going away.
This is really bad for anyone traveling to central and South America. This leaves us with just AA for any points redemption opportunities. My recent experience with AA has been few or no options in J or even Y+. I flew AA using ALASKA points to come down but redemption opportunities were abysmal going home so I am flying paid AA back to my home airport tonight from EZE.
Wow, talk about bait and switch. Lucky has been peddling the Atmos card HARD for the last few weeks. Now people get signed up thinking they are getting a great deal and valuable points, then the rug gets pulled out from under them!
Just got back from Brazil where I took my entire family all on miles tickets. Great deal!
Don't you see??? That is because DL 20% ownership on LATAM dictating the non-official war due to the shame that DL president had when AS rejected their offer some time ago. The battle of DL is not only AS it is SEA dominance. DON'T let that guy Bastian destroy other airlines while is destroying DL reputation.
Just flew LATAM for a trip to Argentina and Uruguay. Outstanding service! But if I wanted to use my AA miles, I’d have to fly in the absolutely worst seats: no checked bag, etc. So those miles I had saved (115,000+) in this “partnership” were unusable for this trip. (Sigh.) So I used some to fly first class domestically. This experience caused us to cancel our AA credit card.
You got your years messed up. But this is a bummer to see. Not many options for getting to South America with miles