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Airbus A220s Getting Airspace Cabin, Bigger Overhead Bins

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Airbus will be introducing its Airspace cabin concept on the A220 (one of my favorite planes), meaning these comfortable jets will be getting larger overhead bins, and some other cool features.

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(@William)
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That's disappointing. To speed up boarding and deplaning it would really help if people dragged less luggage into the cabin. Just walk in and sit, stand up and walk out. Larger bins will invite people to drag even more junk into the cabin.


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(@nohohon)
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I don't understand why Airbus can't make a bin that's both a pivot bin AND have extra space. Think the Boeing Space Bin which AA has retrofitted on their 737's.

Pivot bins create a feeling of space and openness, and overall look a whole lot better then these 19th century bins that Airbus keeps touting. Simplified mechanism is valid. However, are there any metrics for failure of bins? Of all the things I see un-serviceable on aircraft, pivot bins aren't common.


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 BZ
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Once again Airbus showing Trump America's Boeing how to build airplanes properly. That are good for customers and don't randomly crash over Indonesia and Africa.


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Call it air-lack-of-space

Would love to see this and the Boeing bins others have mentioned overlaid in section. These make the aisle area feel much more cramped vertically in comparison. Wonder how much of a difference there actually is


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(@Eskimo)
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What an irony.
People already forgot that it was Trump (and Boeing) who forced Bombardier and Canada to sell this program to Airbus.


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(@yoloswag420)
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The reason why people do carry-on is that checked bags are slow and expensive, on top of that you risk having your property destroyed or lost by the poor quality baggage handling.

As a result, people have decided it's not worth the hassle to pay $50 to have an airline destroy and lose your belongings.


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Diamond
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Airbus didn't do crap. This was a Canadian-design by Bombardier.


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Diamond
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Have you ever had anything lost, have you ever had anything destroyed? I check luggage on the far majority of my flights, and still nothing destroyed or lost.

Main problem as I see it is the lack of enforcement of size. Airlines should ruthlessly measure all bags, including super members, and anything above regulated size should be charged at 300 USD.


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Diamond
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With a ceiling height over the seats that's about the same as an MD80. And good luck to passengers in aisle seats reach the air vents, overhead lights, or call button.

(US based flight attendants must be super happy if peoæe can't reach the call button)


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(@Barbarella)
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How is that useful ? The A220 was already touted as offering 1 hand luggage space per passenger. See Airbus reference from 2021:
https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/files/jlcbta136/files/2021-11/EN-Airbus-A220-Facts-and-Figures-Nov2021.pdf

The densest A220-300 configs so far sport 148 seats (Air Baltic, Air France) so I assume this is what the brochure meant. That's with 30in pitch. The 160 exit capacity is probably achieved with a smaller pitch and those additional bins are only really useful in this case.

Why a cost conscious carrier would operate the plane at 160 seats is beyond me though: The additional FA to cater to the 10 pax above the 150 pax threshold does not seem to pay for itself.

This airspace concept would make sense for a carrier operating a lengthened A220 with capacity close to 200 making full use of the additional FA and wanting short turnarounds at the expense of style.
It would make sense for Southwest that does not seem intent on crossing the 200 pax per frame threshold but that ship has sailed and Europeans LCC have all bought in A321 or B73X.

Who will take this ? Air Baltic ?

The A220 is in a weird spot that will only make sense when Airbus launches both the stretch and its new 6abreaster optimized for >200 pax. If they can muster it to have mixed fleet flying with the A220 they will be in a very strong position. For now they are just advancing pawns.


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(@ord_is_my_second_home)
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Why bother tarting up this regional jet frankenplane? It's lipstick on a miniature pig.


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