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Confused Air France Pilots Make Wrong Turn After Takeoff From LAX, Leading To Close Call

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An Air France A350 bound for Tahiti turned left after takeoff from LAX runway 24L, into the path of an American A321. The pilots then struggled to explain why.


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When I saw this, I immediately thought of when you posted about TAP recently. It’s not just a coincidence, or *scoff* silly pilots; if this keeps happening, multiple carriers, there’s probably a systemic issue that needs to be better addressed. (@RetiredATLATC may be climbing Mt. Everest, but perhaps he can tell.)


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Eskimo, oof, right on cue with the vague 'common factor'... There's a big difference between investigating root-cause human factors and just poisoning the patient to 'cure' them. Throwing AI (no, no 'super intelligence'...) at this won't solve it.


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You must be joking because this is too stupid to be serious.


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Was just thinkin’ about you, RetiredATLATC. Hope the hike is going well!


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That “Right?” at the end… bah! (Just remember to include the “/s” next time.)


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I wonder which departure they were assigned - it’s not included in the video. Several of the departure plates incorporate left turns.


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One would think the last destination programmed into the computer would be LAX. 😉


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"But the common factor refuses to accept facts."

Sorta like how you refuse to accept the facts that:

1) no such technology yet exists (name it, if you contend otherwise) to completely eliminate human factor

2) you sound f#cking moronic, when you spam every post with that, every time.


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If you possess sufficient technology for this, Eskimo, then why are you hiding it? It’s been repeatedly proven that faulty automation can cause accidents just as easily as prevent them. QF72, anyone?

Contributing factor in AF447, TK1951, the list goes on. Both humans and automation are necessary for success and safety. Integrate, don’t replace.


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