And then we wonder why Channel 9 isn’t on….

The Consumerist has an interesting story about a United Airlines passenger that overhead a flight attendant refer to the passengers in coach as “idiots,” in the context of “starting on drinks for the idiots in coach.” A passenger overheard this on Channel 9, through which passengers can listen to air traffic control communications. In this case one of the knobs on the audio panel was set to include communications among the crew on Channel 9, since these communications aren’t typically transmitted over Channel 9.

Anyway, a passenger mentioned overhearing the “idiot” comment to the flight attendant and didn’t receive an apology, and the next thing we know The Consumerist is all over this.

First let me say that it’s rude and unacceptable to refer to your customers as idiots. That being said, this is really being blown out of proportion. I think we can all say that we’ve referred to customers as idiots at our workplaces at one point or another behind their backs. I’ve heard much worse at places I’ve worked at. Maybe some passengers were rude and were causing problems, or maybe the flight attendant was just in a pissy mood. The fact is, we all generalize and let bad words slip once in a while. I’ve also heard flight attendants use much worse words for pilots, although that’s a different story. 😉

The unfortunate part of this story is the end result. The passenger heard this through Channel 9, which is at the discretion of the captain. Many United captains (I’d say north of 50% nowadays) choose to leave Channel 9 off for a variety of reasons. In this case I think it’s no mystery what this particular captain will do on future flights. This situation could have been avoided had Channel 9 not been on, and that’s the sad part.

The only thing I’ll ever say to a captain regarding Channel 9 is “thanks for turning it on,” and there’s good reason for that. Thanks to this passenger and “Nicholas” for ruining it for all of us. 🙁

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JoeJSFO Guest

I had this happen to me on a redeye to Orlando once. I got a chuckle out of the conversation, but I did let the captain know at the end of the trip about it. He asked if I thought the conversation was "alarming". I just said it was amusing to know when the folks up front needed a bathroom break. We all got a nice laugh out of it. Also, being the pilot geek that I am ;-), this website http://www.meriweather.com/flightdeck.html may give you an idea of where the Channel 9 controls are.

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Oliver Guest

OK, OK, vital clearly wasn't the right word, and I was just teasing you anyway. That said, I am amazed how much digital ink is spilled over Ch.9 (just look at the length of your earlier post and the many discussions on FT). And how many "idiots" don't mind being called idiots as long as they get to keep Ch.9. I guess it just confirmed what they knew all along anyway? ;) Anyway, enough digital ink spilled by me.

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lucky New Member

Oliver, I never said Channel 9 is "vital" to me. I enjoy Channel 9 and I always thank pilots for turning it on (even when I don't actually listen), but it doesn't make or break a flight for me.

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Oliver Guest

One more thought: if you feel that pilots are turning off Ch. 9 to harm their company (because that's what you essentially implying, right?), then broadcasting more FA insults over Ch.9 would just help their cause, wouldn't it?

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Oliver Guest

> This could have all been avoided had the captain simply chosen not to flip the switch, unfortunately. As someone pointed out on FT, the comment could also have been overheard by someone sitting near the FAs or walking by the galley. > Oliver, they don’t need an excuse, but they like to have one. And you think they are now going to tell you "because our FAs need to be able to call you guys idiots without you knowing" ? ;) I am curious -- if Ch.9 is so vital to you, how come you always fly non-UA on your luxe trips to foreign shores? Do you take a dose of liveatc.com with you on your iPod? ;)

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