Look, I hate to be like “oh, he’s a hypocrite,” because on some level, we’re all hypocrites. I don’t think anyone is 100% consistent in their logic, and that’s part of being human. But my goodness, this is some next level mental gymnastics, if you ask me, as flagged by View from the Wing…
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Delta CEO Ed Bastian struggles to defend Riyadh flights
In 2026, Delta Air Lines plans to launch flights between Atlanta (ATL) and Riyadh (RUH). This is part of a new partnership with Riyadh Air, the ambitious Saudi Arabian airline startup that’s owned by the country’s Public Investment Fund (PIF). It’s also worth noting that Delta is receiving significant subsidies from the Saudi Arabian government for launching this route, as all international airlines adding flights to Riyadh are receiving.
Going back a decade, there was a massive battle between the “big three” US carriers (American, Delta, and United) and the “big three” Gulf carriers (Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar). The argument was that those airlines were illegally subsidized by their governments, and needed to be stopped, since government subsidized airlines aren’t on a “level playing field.” You can see one of the US propaganda videos from that time below (featuring extensive commentary from Delta CEO Ed Bastian).
Okay, admittedly US carriers have in the meantime evolved, with American having a partnership with Qatar and Etihad, and United having a partnership with Emirates. Great, now Delta is partnering with Riyadh Air. I wouldn’t take issue with this, except for how Delta CEO Ed Bastian is framing this.
In an interview with CNN’s Richard Quest, Bastian was asked about the airline adding flights to Saudi Arabia. The narrative he tells is just wild. He not only reverses course on his feeling about government subsidized Gulf carriers (fair enough), but he manages to justify Delta’s partnership with Riyadh Air while still putting down other government subsidized Gulf carriers. Let’s take a look at his comments.
Bastian claimed that the primary purpose of these flights is to bring US consumers, businesses, and leisure travelers, to Riyadh. Okay, fair enough. Bastian describes being able to fly to Riyadh as an “amazing, amazing opportunity.” Yes, it is an amazing opportunity to fly when someone else is footing the bill, I agree! He then goes on and says the following:
“You know, we’ve been vocal over time about the subsidies and the lack of a level playing field here among the Middle Eastern carriers, the Emirates, the guys in Doha, as well as in Abu Dhabi. And we were never even contemplating partnerships with those three airlines, because they don’t have a local market.”
“They basically exist to take traffic between two other home markets, neither of which are theirs, and we didn’t want to have someone else live off our hard earned territory and the work that we’ve done.”
Bastian goes on to explain that Riyadh is a much bigger local market than Dubai, and has four times the GDP, and he sees a lot of long term aspirations. Quest pushes back, saying how it might initially appear hypocritical for Delta to get “in bed” with a Gulf carrier after the criticism over them being government owned and subsidized. Bastian then partly defends the company’s position by claiming that… he thinks that Riyadh Air could eventually be very profitable, and therefore it’s okay to be government owned and subsidized? As he explains:
“I know the team at Riyadh Air is destined to prove their own weight. Obviously with PIF starting them, they’re going to require considerable amount of startup investment. I think that model can be very successful and very profitable for PIF.”
This is such a disingenuous narrative on Gulf carriers
Let me very clear here — I don’t take issue with Delta flying to Riyadh, or partnering with Riyadh Air. There are also a lot of super smart folks running Riyadh Air, so this isn’t a knock on what they’re doing.
What I take issue with is Bastian getting on his high horse and claiming that Delta wouldn’t even dare consider partnering with an airline like Emirates, because they’re syphoning demand from other markets.
Bastian is right that Saudi Arabia is a larger country than the UAE, and has a larger economy. That being said, he struggles to keep his narrative straight:
- He argues that the Delta flight is primarily intended for Americans looking to visit Saudi Arabia, while dismissing what the other Gulf carriers do; yet more Americans visited the UAE last year than visited Saudi Arabia
- He has issues with subsidies, but he convinces himself that the airline will be “very profitable” for the PIF in the long run… just as Emirates is for the government of Dubai (remember, Emirates is the world’s most profitable airline, beating out Delta!)
If Bastian just said “our position has evolved and times have changed,” I’d say that would be totally fair. But instead, his narrative is basically “we’re the ones doing the ethical thing, and we wouldn’t even dare consider partnering with one of those other evil Gulf carriers.”

Bottom line
Delta is launching flights to Riyadh, which is fair enough, despite Delta’s management for years warning about the risks of government subsidized Gulf carriers. I’m all for airline executives evolving their perspectives, but what’s wild is the extent to which Bastian is basically doubling down on Delta’s previous position, attacking other Gulf carriers, while justifying the Riyadh Air partnership.
What do you make of Bastian’s comments on flying to Riyadh?
 
	 
										 
			 
			 
			
What was he going to say?
"Well, Richard, all the good middle eastern airlines were taken, so we grabbed hold of the last girl at the dance and took her home. Sure, she's a bit odd and has a nasty habit of murdering journalists and chopping them up into bits. But if we just look the other way and smile we'll be fine. She's rich after all."
kinda like AA and US, right?
Or DL and NW.
This is a non-issue. He was sitting next to the CEO of Riyadh Air, obviously he was going to make the comments he made. This is business lingo and nothing else.
Doesn't matter, since nobody is going to this sh****le of a place anyway. I avoid this part of the world like cancer, but if i had to, i would go to an other country than Saudi Arabia.
The CEO needs to fly international airlines.. and see why anyone with a choice will avoid flying Delta, United and American on an international flight instead of inventing ridiculous dialogue and excuses for the shitty flying conditions on US airlines
"anyone with a choice will avoid flying Delta, United and American on an international flight"
Followed by:
"instead of inventing ridiculous dialogue"
LOL, the lack of self-awareness by some of you people, is astonishing!
and yet DL consistently ranks higher than AA or UA in global airline rankings.
Amazing how people like you pull these arguments out when it comes to DL but can't understand why the same is true about AA and UA to an even larger degree.
Apparently, there is good reason why AA and UA make less money than DL even though they fly more capacity.
This may come as a shock to you, but there are other countries on earth that are not the United States of America.
I know you mean it as a joke, but having spent 20 years in and out of the US working for US corporations, a large percentage of the US (basically almost all of it not on the coasts other than Chicago and a few other places) is genuinely unaware other countries don’t work exactly the same as the US and/or don’t care about the outside world.
I don't understand his comment badmouthing the ME3 because most of their traffic is connecting (though Dubai/Abu Dhabi have become major destinations in their own right -- Disney's building a park there, case in point). The majority of Delta's passengers at its largest hub are just connecting there. What's wrong with that?
I eagerly wait on old mate's wall of text.
Eagerly? I usually feel a sense of dread when I open the comments section on a DL post.
Well it's so bizarre but it's a ritual you know? If it didn't appeal I would be worried something happened.
no way! A CEO of a large corporation is a lying weasel....
Say it aint so! *rolleyes*
This is a tired story and nobody really cares.
I mean this whole discourse is exhausting. The first few times, sure some room for discussion. The fact there are so many articles and pingback links on this topic make it clear this is tired.
At the end of the day, does it even matter what the Delta CEO said here? All people say dumb and hypocritical stuff. The same way LGBT aviation content creators will fly ME carriers and party in places where queer...
I mean this whole discourse is exhausting. The first few times, sure some room for discussion. The fact there are so many articles and pingback links on this topic make it clear this is tired.
At the end of the day, does it even matter what the Delta CEO said here? All people say dumb and hypocritical stuff. The same way LGBT aviation content creators will fly ME carriers and party in places where queer people have no rights.
Do Ed Bastian's comments meaningfully move the needle in any way for anyone? I don't think Delta flyers are affected by his statements, much less anyone else in the US.
@Julia...it's all about clicks and eyeballs. Content is secondary. If a dog suddenly starting barking "delta, delta, delta" instead of "yap yap yap" it would get posted here because....clicks. Clicks = $$$$
"All people say dumb and hypocritical stuff. The same way LGBT aviation content creators will fly ME carriers and party in places where queer people have no rights."
What relevance does that (ridiculously exaggerated) trope have to any of this?
I mean, if we're to take that same dense attempt at logic:
You could kill a gay person in more than half the states, claim "gay panic," and get away with it through 1998....
"All people say dumb and hypocritical stuff. The same way LGBT aviation content creators will fly ME carriers and party in places where queer people have no rights."
What relevance does that (ridiculously exaggerated) trope have to any of this?
I mean, if we're to take that same dense attempt at logic:
You could kill a gay person in more than half the states, claim "gay panic," and get away with it through 1998. Should no one gay have ridden Delta until then?
You could arrest a person on accusation of gay sex in Texas through 2003. Should no one gay have ridden American?
You really have no idea what you're talking about.
That's because you're dimwitted as sh!t, but it's not a difficult concept nor question.
But DL’s flight will have engines in the cargo hold for MRO…………………………………………..
yes. and you didn't know that the fans are taken off jet engines so the core can easily be transported in cargo holds of passenger aircraft.
sometimes, you really are better off to just admit to yourself that you were ignorant rather than fanning the flames of you stupidity.
Bastian is a weasel. Remember when he ditched Delta during a gargantuan meltdown so he could vacation in Paris and see The Olympics? The guy simply doesn't care about anyone or anything good or positive. Let's just accept that.
Does anyone actually watch Richard Quest?
Only to ponder when he’ll take his next walk through Central Park at 3:00 a.m. with a rope around his neck connected to his genitals, a pocket of meth, and a sex toy in his boot.
@TravelinPenis, I see you are remarkably familiar with his interests. It takes one to know one(?)
I'm as straight as they come. Who could forget about that?? It's a classic.
Oh, Ben....you've really poked the infamous TD now (not that it takes much for him to regurgitate his usual spiel, ad nauseam).
The great irony here is Delta would have been a great partner with Emirates- they both are profitable mostly due to a ridiculously exaggerated "premium" effect on social media, and both have tanked their loyalty programs to be worthless
Two airlines that are all sizzle with no steak. Delta and Emirates.