Some Delta Air Lines employees are learning the hard way that what they write online can have consequences in real life, as reported by JonNYC. Then again, this just gets at a much bigger issue with our society, about division, how we communicate, etc.
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Delta punishes employees for violating social media policy
On Wednesday, September 10, 2025, we saw the murder of Charlie Kirk, an outspoken political activist, during an event at a college in Utah. No matter how much we may disagree with someone, nobody deserves to have their life taken because they have a different view than us. Worst of all, Kirk has two young children, who now have to grow up without a father due to someone else’s horrible decision.
The internet isn’t exactly a friendly place, and as you’d expect, Kirk’s death has elicited a wide range of responses, from sympathy to glee.
Most major companies have social media policies that dictate how employees can act online. Some people have been seeking out inappropriate comments directed toward Kirk online, and have been reporting them to employers. Along those lines, Delta is the first airline that seems to be taking action in this regard, or at least addressing this on a widespread basis.
These comments aren’t at all hard to find — just go to any social media platform, and search “Charlie Kirk Delta,” or something, and you’ll likely see them.
Delta CEO Ed Bastian has just issued the following memo to employees regarding this, indicating that some employees have been suspended, and termination is a possibility as well:
“No one better connects the world” isn’t just a catchphrase — it’s our mission. For 100 years, Delta people have been known for our spirit of service, making the world better one customer at a time.
Whether we’re in uniform and on the clock, online or out in public, our colleagues, customers and communities expect us to reflect Delta’s values — integrity, care and servant leadership — that we hold dear.
This week we were made aware of Delta employees whose social media content, related to the recent murder of activist Charlie Kirk, went well beyond healthy, respectful debate. These social posts stand in stark contrast to our values and our social media policy, and these employees have been suspended pending an investigation. Violations of our social media policy can carry meaningful consequences, including termination.
Remember that we all represent Delta, at all times, in any forum. It’s essential that we act in ways that uphold our shared values and the human connection that defines us.
Thank you for all you do, every day, to take care of our customers and each other.
The internet is really becoming a very dark place
I don’t blame Delta for enforcing its social media policy. As a matter of fact, it’s something the airline should do. Unfortunately the internet just brings out the worst in people, and for whatever reason, many people can’t help themselves. People should just follow a simple rule — if you’re using identifying information online, assume that your employer will see what you post, and ask yourself if they’d be fine with it.
The thing is, many of these Delta employees aren’t necessarily openly putting in their social media bios that they work for the airline, and they aren’t claiming to be company representatives. But they’ll have a picture or two in uniform somewhere in their feed, and they seemingly don’t realize that this connects them to the company. C’mon, folks, use common sense!
The internet, and particularly social media, has just become such a dark and unpleasant place. There’s more effort put into finding division than common ground.
The irony is of course that the people who are most aggressively reporting people to employers for what they write online are the same people who post the most controversial and offensive things when something similar on the other side happens.
It’s not that they’re upset that someone is being insensitive, but they’re upset that someone is disagreeing with them, and they want to find any way possible to punish them for that. And let me be clear, that’s not exclusive to any one side, and it happens across the political spectrum.
In the United States we have free speech, but of course that doesn’t mean that what you see is free of consequences. The consequences are of course the biggest if you use your real name, you work for someone else, etc.
I think this is also why the internet is becoming a worse place by the day. The above reality essentially encourages people to use anonymous accounts, and that only emboldens people to be their worst, loudest, and most controversial self.
The only people who can non-anonymously say super hateful things online without consequences are those who literally make a living doing that. Then oddly, you have people like Elon Musk claiming that if you’re “unfairly treated” by your employer due to something you posted online, he’ll fund your legal bills, with no limit.
Bottom line
Delta is taking action against employees who have violated the company’s social media policy, following the murder of Charlie Kirk. It’s a good reminder that free speech doesn’t mean that what you say is free of consequences.
Delta has a social media policy, and the company is within its rights to enforce that. I just wish the internet weren’t evolving the way it was. There’s little sense of objective ethics or right vs. wrong anymore, and instead, it’s all about punishing those with different opinions. And again, I think that applies across the spectrum.
What do you make of Delta enforcing its social media policy?
I am neither American nor a lawyer but through the magic of the internet, "Free speech is limited under the First Amendment to prohibit categories of speech that can harm others, such as incitement to violence, defamation, fraud, child pornography, and true threats. While the First Amendment protects expression from government restrictions, it does not prevent private entities like businesses or social media platforms from regulating content on their own platforms."
Some of the...
I am neither American nor a lawyer but through the magic of the internet, "Free speech is limited under the First Amendment to prohibit categories of speech that can harm others, such as incitement to violence, defamation, fraud, child pornography, and true threats. While the First Amendment protects expression from government restrictions, it does not prevent private entities like businesses or social media platforms from regulating content on their own platforms."
Some of the three million lawyers in the US likely may be eager to accept cases funded by Mr. Musk, regardless of their opinions on the subject matter.
Whether it is legal or not, I view stating personnel opinions on a matter in a forum linked to your employer in any way as impolite.
This person is a moron. In general, but not absolute, people should be able to post rude, nasty, tasteless things on line and not lose their job. As long as they aren't bringing their employer into it. But this crossed the line. A man that traveled the country debating his ideas was executed gang style in front of 1000+ young people. Leaving behind a wife and two young children that will never know their father...
This person is a moron. In general, but not absolute, people should be able to post rude, nasty, tasteless things on line and not lose their job. As long as they aren't bringing their employer into it. But this crossed the line. A man that traveled the country debating his ideas was executed gang style in front of 1000+ young people. Leaving behind a wife and two young children that will never know their father and live with this horror.
In this case you deserve to be outed to your employer and lose your job. Enjoy working at Family Dollar.
Very well written post at a time where every sentence must be crafted. Summarised, educated and closed well.
I've posted this elsewhere but, this all goes back to brand recognition. The narcissistic idea that one must post every part of their miserable lives, from the number of daily bowel movements to what they have for dinner, to everyone in the same miserable mindset is ludicrous. IF on their social media sites there is any hint as to their employer, then the employer has the right to control what is posted on the employee’s...
I've posted this elsewhere but, this all goes back to brand recognition. The narcissistic idea that one must post every part of their miserable lives, from the number of daily bowel movements to what they have for dinner, to everyone in the same miserable mindset is ludicrous. IF on their social media sites there is any hint as to their employer, then the employer has the right to control what is posted on the employee’s accounts. Many of the dumb masses that read this narcissistic drivel will equate the employee’s beliefs to that of the employer. First Amendment rights do not extend to private entities. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech...". This applies to all governments from federal down to local.
OH...I should add: MISOGINY: is a deep dislike, hatred, prejudice, or contempt for women and girls. I don't think I ever heard him say anything like that. RACIST:showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group. NOTE:RACIAL and ETHNIC. Eh...no. Now this one is really good: Charlie Kirk was a "pedophile homosexual". Exactly WHAT twisted mind does MAGA JOE and Icarus...
OH...I should add: MISOGINY: is a deep dislike, hatred, prejudice, or contempt for women and girls. I don't think I ever heard him say anything like that. RACIST:showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group. NOTE:RACIAL and ETHNIC. Eh...no. Now this one is really good: Charlie Kirk was a "pedophile homosexual". Exactly WHAT twisted mind does MAGA JOE and Icarus have? All this proves is that many can't properly express disagreement without resorting to, frankly, slander and defamation of character. if real names were associated with comments like this, I'd haul your happy asses into court and nail you for every cent you have!
A lot of this stems from keyboard courage. Pre internet, if you said something to someone's face you would directly see a consequence. Now with an anonymous internet name and physical distance you can insult at will.
People should think before posting. You can say anything you want just be prepared for the consequences.
As others have mentioned already, in the US our constitutional guarantee of free speech applies only to government. You cannot be arrested or censured or legally harassed BY THE GOVERNMENT for expressing unpopular ideas. There are exceptions, but generally one is free to say anything, no matter how awful. While this is an important right, it does not apply to private companies. If you are employed by a company with a speech policy and you...
As others have mentioned already, in the US our constitutional guarantee of free speech applies only to government. You cannot be arrested or censured or legally harassed BY THE GOVERNMENT for expressing unpopular ideas. There are exceptions, but generally one is free to say anything, no matter how awful. While this is an important right, it does not apply to private companies. If you are employed by a company with a speech policy and you violate the policy, they can do whatever they want regarding your employment. It's that simple. Generally, don't express controversial opinions on social media and you will be fine. Now, if you want to write a letter expressing your view to your senator, that is protected speech. Feel free. I am grateful that we cannot be arrested for our speech, unlike our friends in Europe. They seem to have lost their way, especially in the UK.
“It’s not that they’re upset that someone is being insensitive, but they’re upset that someone is disagreeing with them, and they want to find any way possible to punish them for that.”
Exactly WRONG. Many of these people work in positions in which you entrust them with your life. Pilots, doctors, nurses, public transportation drivers/operators. If they’re saying things as unhinged as they are, it becomes clear to me that just because I don’t agree...
“It’s not that they’re upset that someone is being insensitive, but they’re upset that someone is disagreeing with them, and they want to find any way possible to punish them for that.”
Exactly WRONG. Many of these people work in positions in which you entrust them with your life. Pilots, doctors, nurses, public transportation drivers/operators. If they’re saying things as unhinged as they are, it becomes clear to me that just because I don’t agree with something they might believe, who’s to say they don’t think I should die too? Should I trust a pilot that doesn’t value every human life to not crash the plane because people on board don’t have the same opinions? I don’t give a shit what side of the spectrum they are on, and don’t think that a liberal or conservative is voicing their opinion should be punished just because they might think differently than me. That’s exactly freedom of speech. But the line is crossed if a pilot believes someone should die just because they think differently than them. I have a problem with that and would choose to fly with someone who values all human life so that I can trust they won’t do something radical just because my beliefs don’t align with theirs. This is common sense, not rocket science.
Agree
Obviously you've never spent time with people putting together airplanes. People have weird and vile beliefs all the time. Yet, you entrust your safety to them. Doctors are the same way (I had one refer to "the War of Northern Aggression" while fixing my foot). People's ethical and political views really have little relationship to specific job competence.
There's a lot of poison in our society put out by people chasing clout, influence, and money...
Obviously you've never spent time with people putting together airplanes. People have weird and vile beliefs all the time. Yet, you entrust your safety to them. Doctors are the same way (I had one refer to "the War of Northern Aggression" while fixing my foot). People's ethical and political views really have little relationship to specific job competence.
There's a lot of poison in our society put out by people chasing clout, influence, and money (Charlie Kirk was one of them). People were harassed and harmed by his work. Should we wish for their demise? That's not the best way to express one's feelings. But do I want to spend any time dwelling on Charlie Kirk's public legacy? Not really. The soonest we can forget his work in life, the better off as a society we will be.
I tracked down the comments, did you KM? The DL pilot didn't wish CK dead, though he did call him a name and yes, that's just rude in the current light. I don't know if it's snowflake-ism or pure ignorance, but it seems to me the people calling for the heads of anyone showing the slightest disrespect towards CK's murder are missing the point.
CK LITERALLY said that it was worth the cost of some...
I tracked down the comments, did you KM? The DL pilot didn't wish CK dead, though he did call him a name and yes, that's just rude in the current light. I don't know if it's snowflake-ism or pure ignorance, but it seems to me the people calling for the heads of anyone showing the slightest disrespect towards CK's murder are missing the point.
CK LITERALLY said that it was worth the cost of some lives in order to have 2nd Amendment rights to protect other "god-given rights." He LITERALLY said that an armed citizenry is the price of liberty. I think there are a lot of people who would disagree with him and are trying to point out just how high that price can be. Of course, when it's minorities, or children, or churchgoers it never seems to be too high a price... but now? I believe that whether it is gun violence or political violence, the price is too high and always has been. It is chilling though that in the wake of this political violence, the right is calling for violence against the other side of the aisle.
And as far as pilots' with questionable beliefs, whether or not they wanted to kill you: How comfortable would YOU be with a pilot more eager to look down and spot "Obama's FEMA death trains" than monitoring the plane? Or one that chuckled at the thought that Paul Pelosi deserved to be beaten because he "was a pedo"? I have been in the cockpit with people like this, saying those things. The disagreement that followed was probably as civil as it could have been, but I never trusted those men's judgment again.
One side claimed for years that free speech is under attack, now they suddenly want to shut down any free speech they find offensive. What a toxic and hypocritical society.
Charlie kirk was a racist and a pedophile homosexual killed by his gay Israeli lover. The things this man said were deeply hateful, racist and mysigonestic but was defended by his cry of free speech. Now this man was gunned downed by Maga white nationalist and we say the same things that he said about people of color , now thats a problem. Racists dont get to make the rules and control narrative. No sympathy for this racist
What exactly did Kirk say that was deeply hateful? Can you name one actual legit quote? I can't. And if you don't like what someone says, then don't listen. That's your right. You cannot justify murder based on your personal view of how bad you think someone is. That does not solve anything.
Finally, all of your descriptions of Kirk and the shooter are wrong. I suggest that you educate yourself before shooting off your mouth again.
Seek help.
I think a lot of people are confused about what free speech is (including Elon Musk). Free Speech refers to the regulation of speech by governments and public institutions. I think Delta has probably been overly aggressive and I don't agree with going after employees for comments about Kirk but this isn't really a free speech issue. Private companies have all kinds of standards about employee behavior that are legally protected.
The so-called tolerant left has really shown their true colors in the last few days and months (and in this blog post). Celebrating and praising cold blooded murderers like Louis Mangione, to the open and vicious celebration of Charlie Kirk's murder, and the lamenting at the failure of the 2 attempts on the President's life. They have become the party of death.
No. The world would certainly be a better place without racism, homophobia, misogyny, misandry etc. It’s just that you lack the ability to comprehend that. Third time lucky ..
Their you have it folks--an open invitation to assassinate the democratically elected US president by a deluded fool who considers themselves the best example of compassion.
I've continually been told my mere silence is actual violence, so I will assume Ben that your silence on a public call to assassinate Trump (on your website) is total agreement.
The hypocrisy. The right wing in the US calls for gay people to be killed, and attacks minorities daily both verbally and physically. I thought you believed in free speech. It was a figure of speech.
The party of "Free Speech", that is...free speech for ME, but not for THEE, is certainly in the midst of drama queen meltdown. It is really something to behold. Especially since the murderer came from within.
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Bruh, SITTING CONGRESSMEN on the right made fun of the assassination of the MN State legislator and the current President mocked Pelosi's husband after a home invader fractured his skull with a hammer while attempting to kidnap Nancy Pelosi. Meanwhile for Kirk there's been far left randos celebrating his death, but the "worst" from the mainstream Dem side has been to say that 1. Kirk had disgusting political views (true) and 2. Kirk...
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Bruh, SITTING CONGRESSMEN on the right made fun of the assassination of the MN State legislator and the current President mocked Pelosi's husband after a home invader fractured his skull with a hammer while attempting to kidnap Nancy Pelosi. Meanwhile for Kirk there's been far left randos celebrating his death, but the "worst" from the mainstream Dem side has been to say that 1. Kirk had disgusting political views (true) and 2. Kirk didn't deserve to be shot for voicing those views (true).
Btw, Trump doesn't give a damn about Kirk's death either, he's more interested in his new ballroom.
These people lack self control. They just can't help themselves and should never be in a position where they can affect the safety of others. Good on Delta.
“In the United States we have free speech”
No you don’t. You’re being delulu again Ben.
MAGA snowflakes led by the whiner in chief.
It seems like the left went too far this time, they tried to silence him but they have woken a sleeping giant. The right isn’t putting up with it anymore.
There have been multiple stories of people being fired from all kinds of companies from universities to MSNBC over comments about Kirk.
The internet has created the mindset that people can say whatever they want and not face repercussions.
Whether you like Kirk or not, hopefully there will be a recognition that speech has its limits - both ways. He wasn't the President and they have been assassinated for decades. He was an opinionated...
There have been multiple stories of people being fired from all kinds of companies from universities to MSNBC over comments about Kirk.
The internet has created the mindset that people can say whatever they want and not face repercussions.
Whether you like Kirk or not, hopefully there will be a recognition that speech has its limits - both ways. He wasn't the President and they have been assassinated for decades. He was an opinionated person.
When you spend time engraving bullets, you have lost the ability to stop and think things through.
and DL, like most companies and organizations, gives employees the freedom to say what you want AS LONG AS YOU NEVER IDENTIFY as their employee
Speech literally does not have limits. That's the entire point of free speech, you prolapsed rectum.
well, yes it most certainly does.
The government cannot limit your speech as a private citizen but employers most certainly can.
the fact that you don't understand the basic concepts of speech - and you are certainly not alone - is why there will be stories of all kinds of people being fired from all kinds of companies over a very opinionated private (not government) individual.
That’s not true. In any democracy, free speech ends where crime begins. Free speech doesn’t give you the right to say anything. If it was the case, pedos, recists, nazis and similar would all be free to promote their “beliefs”. Go to a public square in Germany and preach that they should burn half the jewish population. You’ll be arrested. Go to Brazil and call a black person a monkey in public. You’ll be arrested....
That’s not true. In any democracy, free speech ends where crime begins. Free speech doesn’t give you the right to say anything. If it was the case, pedos, recists, nazis and similar would all be free to promote their “beliefs”. Go to a public square in Germany and preach that they should burn half the jewish population. You’ll be arrested. Go to Brazil and call a black person a monkey in public. You’ll be arrested. That’s not free speech. That’s crime.
Regarding the Charlie Kirk situation, I agree that it’s absurd to punish just the side that doesn’t praise him. This is indeed a violation of free speech. And who would’ve thought that when you disseminate so much immorality, prejudice and violence, all you you get is more immorality, prejudice and violence. I’ll never side with someone who decides to kill someone. But I cringe when I see people who preach so much hate being shocked when they are met with exactly what they preach.
Tim is 100% correct here and you are 100% wrong.
As an outsider (dutch) person looking in - I often see a lot of hypocrisy in American politics or vocal supporters of one party or another.
For example, free speech.
I will read some people that have a large platform make comments that are inflaming or hurtful to segments of the population. And when they are called out the first thing they say is 'free speech'.
And yet, when they are targeted by the opposing...
As an outsider (dutch) person looking in - I often see a lot of hypocrisy in American politics or vocal supporters of one party or another.
For example, free speech.
I will read some people that have a large platform make comments that are inflaming or hurtful to segments of the population. And when they are called out the first thing they say is 'free speech'.
And yet, when they are targeted by the opposing side, they attack the comments being made against them and make calls that x, y ,z post or comment should be removed. Although, free speech? I mean you guys live in a country where people can picket military funerals and chant 'God hates fags'.
The other thing that I think most non-europeans westerns struggle with when observing US politics is just how much religion influences things. Sure, we have it here as well as do most countries where the routes are christianity. But 90% of the population are not interested in hearing about it, so you seldom hear our politicians mention religion in politics. I mean look at Ireland, a devout catholic country - has had a gay prime minister, gay marriage is legal, and of course abortion. Same in Italy, essentially the host nation (kind of) of the world's biggest christian church.
Yet, again with the politicians or influential people that have large platforms in the US - when they talk about religion it again seems to be hypocritical or at least selective. They seem to pick and choose the parts of christian teachings that appeal to them or are useful to them and then ignore others.
Yes the internet is a dark place. And the real world is not much better anymore. Prayers for all the lives lost because of their political views.
It’s also proof you absolutely don’t have free speech in the USA, if you are happy he died.
However if you praise him, you don’t get disciplined? They are only suspending employees who have a different opinion?
Why feel sorry that he had children? Boo hoo. So did Mussolini and Pol Pot.
Comparing Charlie Kirk to Mussolini and Pol Pot just shows you're an unhinged lunatic that merits no dialogue.
Like many, I was happy with the death of a fascist misogynist homophobe
New York Yankees game on 11 September of all days, decided to have a big image of him on a screen an ask people to stand in silence. His wife spoke to remember his legacy.
The US government has said that any foreigners who say anything negative about CK risk being deported. Nancy Mace was screaming about “ trannies “
...Like many, I was happy with the death of a fascist misogynist homophobe
New York Yankees game on 11 September of all days, decided to have a big image of him on a screen an ask people to stand in silence. His wife spoke to remember his legacy.
The US government has said that any foreigners who say anything negative about CK risk being deported. Nancy Mace was screaming about “ trannies “
Nothing to remember the children killed in Minneapolis. The Hortmans.
School shootings are the biggest cause of death to children in the US. 95% of shootings globally are in the US, and CK said a few deaths are worth to keep the second amendment.
Bolsonaro was jailed in Brazil for an insurrection.
The US government is the most dangerous threat to global stability since the 1930s.
If you think someone should be killed for his speech, you're the fascist.
Sure Jan. He spoke how he despised immigrants and lgbtq. People who support him will take his word and go out and commit violence against those groups. You’re so ignorant to believe it was just about speech. Trump, Vance and other members of that cult coerce people to hate.
The US has a vast number of uneducated people who lap it up.
And from a European perspective having family killed by fascism in...
Sure Jan. He spoke how he despised immigrants and lgbtq. People who support him will take his word and go out and commit violence against those groups. You’re so ignorant to believe it was just about speech. Trump, Vance and other members of that cult coerce people to hate.
The US has a vast number of uneducated people who lap it up.
And from a European perspective having family killed by fascism in WW2 know full well how it works. The US government are Christian national fascists.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Bravo!
Based on some of the comments I’ve seen from this low IQ individual over the years, I’m not surprised to see this. I (for once) agree with Tim Dunn’s comment above - When you spend time engraving bullets, you have lost the ability to stop and think things through.
The bullets were not engraved. This was another lie from the MAGA governor of Utah.
I wish OMAAT would follow TPG’s lead and disable all comments.
I wish you would just read TPG and stop visiting OMAAT.
Senselessly trolling again Eskimo …. Many who post herein “Wish that you would stop visiting OMAAT”.
Big mouth, tiny wiener = Eskimo
@Ben, what was wrong with my comment?
Before immigration to the US I was working for the biggest airline in Russia, Aeroflot.
Even there I was free to show my opinion on my own social medias about all the bs in the government without any consequences.
Since invasion the things have been changing drastically. But still companies do not give a f if you post something against the government. Only government agencies care about it.
I can’t believe I...
Before immigration to the US I was working for the biggest airline in Russia, Aeroflot.
Even there I was free to show my opinion on my own social medias about all the bs in the government without any consequences.
Since invasion the things have been changing drastically. But still companies do not give a f if you post something against the government. Only government agencies care about it.
I can’t believe I escaped from this country and culture to the ‘most democratic country in the world’ where companies control your posts. I have seen a lot of bs in my country related to expressing your opinion, and I had never been shocked by similar things/actions in this country until now.
P.S. And originally I’m from Belarus. Belavia was the only airline in the region who kicked off people for any unti-government posts. Now DL joined the hell.
The Englishmen, Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee, the inventor of the World Wide Web and Charles Babbage the inventor of the digital computer, have much to be proud of.
The USA has so much more to be ashamed of for allowing and leading the world in the misuse of both the computer and the WWW.
The majority of the woke and unashamedly disruptive rhetoric circulating around the WWW, originates from the land of the...
The Englishmen, Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee, the inventor of the World Wide Web and Charles Babbage the inventor of the digital computer, have much to be proud of.
The USA has so much more to be ashamed of for allowing and leading the world in the misuse of both the computer and the WWW.
The majority of the woke and unashamedly disruptive rhetoric circulating around the WWW, originates from the land of the not so free USA. Recently it has been proven that one has to be extremely guarded in what one thinks, says and does in the USA currently.
You can bring the cowboy out of the Wild West but you cannot bring the wild, woke gun slinger out of the U.S.
Linking what you consider “woke” with “unashamedly disruptive rhetoric” makes one wonder how much you support free speech. There is a lot of hate coming from both sides right now.
If we are waiting for people or businesses to self-regulate on this one it ain’t gonna happen.
As for Delta, I can’t say for sure if this is the right call or not, but I don’t like what I see here …mainly because I...
Linking what you consider “woke” with “unashamedly disruptive rhetoric” makes one wonder how much you support free speech. There is a lot of hate coming from both sides right now.
If we are waiting for people or businesses to self-regulate on this one it ain’t gonna happen.
As for Delta, I can’t say for sure if this is the right call or not, but I don’t like what I see here …mainly because I don’t know where you draw the line. But, at the end of the day, an at-will employer can terminate any employee for any reason.
There are many Parker, who like me, actually support free speech. However, to do so in certain areas of the world is tantamount to signing your own death warrant. Recent events in Utah have graphically proven why the USA (for example) is not the land of the free …. yes?
Decency towards others, no matter the party or beliefs. A seemingly good man, father and husband was murdered. You don't have to like him or you don't have to agree with him, but he was murdered and his kids no longer have a father.
Until people of all persuasions can go back to seeing that we shouldn't celebrate his murder, the rest is irrelevant.
Thank you for this. After heatedly finishing a comment upthread, I continued reading and found this very poignant sentiment that showed me an element of humanity I lacked just 2 minutes ago.
Freedom of speech should actually mean freedom of consequences, that's the whole point. Otherwise it's not free speech. That said, there are some very clear lines. If you absolutely rejoice over someone's murder, if you're so ecstatic you have to go and make a social media post about it - you're psychotic. We don't allow people not fit for society to participate in it, and we definitely shouldn't allow them to be responsible for someone's...
Freedom of speech should actually mean freedom of consequences, that's the whole point. Otherwise it's not free speech. That said, there are some very clear lines. If you absolutely rejoice over someone's murder, if you're so ecstatic you have to go and make a social media post about it - you're psychotic. We don't allow people not fit for society to participate in it, and we definitely shouldn't allow them to be responsible for someone's wellbeing on a metal tube in the sky. Applies to both sides. If some lunatic leftist got murdered tomorrow (which doesn't happen, but if), I'd absolutely support firing anyone loudly celebrating it. If you don't have very very basic self control, you shouldn't be anywhere near others.
Actually it did happen. Recently, a democratic lawmaker and her husband were killed. Another lawmaker and his wife were also targeted but survived. Both couples were shot in their respective homes. The suspect had a list of dozens of other democratic lawmakers - including sitting US senator and reproductive rights activists. Please don’t gaslight, don’t advertise your ignorance.
The fact is political violence happens on both sides, but it’s also a fact that only one...
Actually it did happen. Recently, a democratic lawmaker and her husband were killed. Another lawmaker and his wife were also targeted but survived. Both couples were shot in their respective homes. The suspect had a list of dozens of other democratic lawmakers - including sitting US senator and reproductive rights activists. Please don’t gaslight, don’t advertise your ignorance.
The fact is political violence happens on both sides, but it’s also a fact that only one side has given the extremism an official platform. Fox news has been doing it for years and now under the orange buffoon, right has made it its official mission.
Yeah, Tim Walz's pal did kill them, and it's tragic. And if anyone openly and cheerfully celebrated their death - they should lose their job, just like I said.
The rest is certifiable gibberish, but that's exactly the point of free speech. I have absolutely no problem with you having an opinion that I think is completely wrong. You should NEVER lose your job over that. But open and gleeful celebration of the death...
Yeah, Tim Walz's pal did kill them, and it's tragic. And if anyone openly and cheerfully celebrated their death - they should lose their job, just like I said.
The rest is certifiable gibberish, but that's exactly the point of free speech. I have absolutely no problem with you having an opinion that I think is completely wrong. You should NEVER lose your job over that. But open and gleeful celebration of the death of another human being is a psychotic episode. And if you have them and can't control them - there are very many things you should be restricted from.
Yeah but that was democrat on democrat crime.
"We don't allow people not fit for society to participate in it"
"Applies to both sides."
This is an example of ig ignorant Karen NIMBY hypocrite pretending to be woke snowflake.
1. Who made you power to determine who's fit or unfit for society.
2. You said both sides yet you completely ignore the side you deem "unfit for society".
dude dude, chill my guy lol, the bartender should cut you off soon. happy to chat in 12 hours. stay hydrated.
@Syd
You are free to say whatever you want. Nobody is stopping you. Only you have control over your own mouth.
“No one better connects the world”
But only if it passes the Ed censorship.
See Ed, if you "really" want to connect the world, you have to accept the best and the worst the connected world has to offer.
Now a private business can do what they want and be as draconian as they please.
But don't be a one sided authoritarian and still claim to connect people. This is like go colonizing but say...
“No one better connects the world”
But only if it passes the Ed censorship.
See Ed, if you "really" want to connect the world, you have to accept the best and the worst the connected world has to offer.
Now a private business can do what they want and be as draconian as they please.
But don't be a one sided authoritarian and still claim to connect people. This is like go colonizing but say you come in peace.
But if Ed wants to mix business with PAC, at least be honest about it and get the prices lower, pass on the benefits to your customers for ever politicians your organization blows.
“But they’ll have a picture or two in uniform somewhere in their feed, and they seemingly don’t realize that this connects them to the company. C’mon, folks, use common sense!”
When you don’t have any issue with what was said about the murder, and instead want to coach people how to avoid getting fired in the future.
There is no free speech on the US, that is such a joke that anyone who had lived there and in another country knows. Employees are not married to corporations/their employers and as long as they don't represent the company in any fashion, most of them do not have any reference to who they work for, they should be left alone and their privacy should be respected. Many social media policies are draconian and plain...
There is no free speech on the US, that is such a joke that anyone who had lived there and in another country knows. Employees are not married to corporations/their employers and as long as they don't represent the company in any fashion, most of them do not have any reference to who they work for, they should be left alone and their privacy should be respected. Many social media policies are draconian and plain ignorant, they wouldn't survive a day on a European Court.
What are you talking about? Free speech only applies to the government punishing you, not a private company deciding they don't want to be associated with you. You want to compare free speech in the U.S. to Europe? Ok, let's do that. An apparently very controversial UK figure was just arrested last week in London for posting WORDS. It is illegal to do a Nazi salute in Germany, or to deny the Holocaust. Switzerland outlaws...
What are you talking about? Free speech only applies to the government punishing you, not a private company deciding they don't want to be associated with you. You want to compare free speech in the U.S. to Europe? Ok, let's do that. An apparently very controversial UK figure was just arrested last week in London for posting WORDS. It is illegal to do a Nazi salute in Germany, or to deny the Holocaust. Switzerland outlaws public homophobia speech. Denmark passed laws 2 years ago desecrating holy texts. None of those things are illegal in the United States, where it is legal to burn the flag, despite what President Pussygrabber says. You don't know what you're talking about.
So you go on to talk about the internet being divisive, then go on to be divisive in explaining that the wrong side is going after people?
What a hot, steaming, pile of shit example of "journalism".
Stick to reporting on airline and hotel loyalty programs.
@ Robert -- Sorry, what?
with reading comprehension skills like this, it's not hard to see how @Robert arrived at the political views he did
I think you say it very well, and social media has largely become a sewer with a few ponds of fresh water embedded in it which is why most of us still go there. We all have the right to drink sewer water if we want to, but there would be health and reputation consequences if we did. Actions have consequences, and when you post something on social media, the effect in terms of exposure...
I think you say it very well, and social media has largely become a sewer with a few ponds of fresh water embedded in it which is why most of us still go there. We all have the right to drink sewer water if we want to, but there would be health and reputation consequences if we did. Actions have consequences, and when you post something on social media, the effect in terms of exposure is more similar to printing something in a newspaper than having a conversation with a friend at a kitchen table. Expect consequences when you post something online which you wouldn't print in a newspaper or say from a podium. And that goes for all sides.
A MAGA army will report you for not writing nice things about Charlie after his murder, but the same group will reshare Na zi propaganda and even reshare articles from an increasingly mainstream conservative "news" sites that calls for the actual dismantling of the Democratic party and even rounding up their donors and supporters to throw them in prison before being executed.
Biggest bunch of whiniest snowflakes ever.
As long as they're absolutely impartial while doing it, absolutely.
This perfectly captures the most recent decades of world history. Thanks, @Ben.
It was like that for centuries.
You just notice it the most recent decades because the propaganda machine isn't as effective as it used to be. Fewer people got brainwash one sided.
Now people can pick a side to get brainwashed thanks to sophisticated algorithms.
Even Cristiano Ronaldo has almost half as much followers as Jesus.
Go figure.
There are those who contend that if Jesus could have had access to the WWW, back in the day, Christianity would be the only religion today …. I couldn’t possibly comment!