I’m sympathetic to the unique challenges that solo female travelers have, though I’m not sure what exactly to make of this complaint…
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A Hyatt Regency guest’s smoking confrontation
Twitter/X user @bretonlane tagged me in a complaint she has about a recent Hyatt stay (so I assume she is looking for people to amplify her story, and/or share their take). Here’s her series of social media posts:
Hyatt Regency Huntington Beach: I was a 41-year-old woman traveling alone. I smoked one cigarette on the balcony. 30 min later: LOUD banging on my door repeatedly — no ID, no courtesy call. I froze in fear. Then the phone rang: “OPEN THE DOOR NOW. SECURITY IS THERE.”
I said I wouldn’t open the door. The man yelled at me, accused me of smoking, threatened a $500 fine. I said I understood and wouldn’t do it again. No one warned me at check-in. I didn’t see it listed in the app when booked. I went to bed, shaken and humiliated.
I booked a new flight early the next morning — still afraid. I cut the trip a day early. Later, I was charged the full $500. That night, I called security about items I left behind. They said the room hadn’t been cleaned. But someone had already gone in to take photos?
So someone entered my room — not to clean, just to search and penalize me. No notice. No cleaning crew. That’s a privacy violation. No apology. Just cold, robotic emails and a charge. I’ve stayed at this hotel for over 20 years — including my wedding night. I left this time feeling unsafe, dismissed, and completely disrespected. Women deserve better when traveling alone.
I spoke and emailed with [name] director of rooms to try to resolve the issues and get some assurance security would rethink their actions and he abrasively shut me down about me being treated poorly both times and only focused on the fact that the fine stood.
Hyatt I have dm’d you I’ve also repeatedly tried to resolve or at least get an apology for the way I was treated with [name] (director of rooms) at the Hyatt Huntington Beach with no avail.
What can we really make of this complaint?
I’ve gotta be honest, I’ve read this complaint about five times now, and I’m struggling a bit. For what it’s worth, the hotel’s website and app clearly disclose that the property is smoke free, and that a $500 fee could be applied if people violate that rule (not seeing it isn’t really an excuse, since it’s there):
Please note that our entire resort is a smoke- and vape-free environment, including your room and balcony or terrace. Smoking and vaping are only permitted in designated smoking areas outside the resort perimeter. In the event it is determined that smoking or vaping has taken place inside a room, a smoking fee of $500 will be placed on your folio at management’s discretion.
With that in mind, I can appreciate that if someone just knocks on your door without identifying themselves, you might not want to open the door, since concerns over security in hotels are legitimate. But even after she received a call confirming it was security, she refused to open the door, and instead, went to bed “shaken and humiliated.” If she was worried about the authenticity of that call, she could also dial the front desk to confirm that this is legitimate.
Interestingly, it sounds like at first, the hotel was only threatening a $500 fine, because as the terms even say, that fee can be placed on the folio at management’s discretion. But as you might expect, if a guest is uncooperative, that will likely trigger them to charge that fee.
But instead of cooperating, she checked out the following morning, and then she ended up leaving items behind in the room. Clearly they entered her room to take pictures, presumably to prove that she smoked (in case she otherwise tried to deny it, which I imagine is common among guests who smoke). But she feels that them entering the room is a privacy violation, after she checked out?
When you stay at a hotel, you’re ultimately a guest, and management can remove you from the property if you violate rules. While it would’ve been an overkill, the hotel would absolutely be within their rights to call the police and trespass a guest if they refuse to open the door when security shows up for a rule violation.
It seems like this could’ve largely been avoided if she was just more cooperative and apologetic, rather than somehow making this the hotel’s fault. But instead she’s demanding reassurance from the hotel that they change their behavior?
Last but not least, as someone who has grown up in a family of smokers, I’m just a little bit skeptical of the claim of having just smoked a single cigarette on the balcony. She claims she didn’t know smoking wasn’t allowed, and I don’t know about you, but I don’t know many cigarette smokers who just have one cigarette per day. But that’s neither here nor there…
Bottom line
A guest staying at the Hyatt Regency Huntington Beach claims she smoked one cigarette on the balcony, and then had security knocking on her door. Fearing for her safety, she refused to open the door, even after she received a phone call telling her that security was there.
Instead, she checked out early the next morning, and then left some items behind. When she found out hotel staff entered her room after she checked out, she felt her privacy was violated. Now she wants an apology from Hyatt and the hotel.
What do you make of this Hyatt smoking incident?
Smokers deserve lung cancer.
No they don’t. What a pointlessly callous thing to post.
This is comedy gold - I’m willing to bet there is at least one placard in the room and another on the balcony forbidding smoking. Probably signs at the entrance and front desk and around the resort. In California it’s harder to find a place you can smoke than a place you can’t. Good luck, lady - probably not going to get that apology.
Depends on who you are. I just smoke outside and when someone comes, I say I'm European so it's okay. They never know what to say :)
Maybe she thought she was in Paris.
A smoking Karen?
But ... why can't you smoke on hotel balconies in America? It's super weird. I mean, there's plenty nuisances - loud unruly children, fat people, people playing their weird music loud - and outdoor, muh second-hand smoke is - at worst - annoying.
To the woman reading this wanting be like um actually, sit down missy. Actually, don't, go for a run.
How are ‘fat’ people a nuisance? I’d definitely notice if my neighbor was smoking on their balcony, but I can’t imagine they would impact my stay simply by being overweight.
The visual unpleasantness raises my cortisol levels (long-term stress, the bad one) and takes time away from my life. They're literally shortening people's lives.
I'm fairly certain that's actually more impactful than maybe having someone's smoke potentially blow past you.
Because smokers have no issue with tossing their cigs when it's not completely out. And from a balcony it travels and can cause fires. Especially in southern CA with all the recent fires, it's not a stretch for businesses to strictly enforce their rules on this.
Your putrid, toxic miasma is your business, and your right to smoke ends at the windows of my house. Grow a pair and give it up.
It is EXTREMELY common that for a smoke free space (room or entire hotel), the balcony is included in the smoke free context. Any frequent smoker would likely know this, thus she was hoping to avoid getting caught or penalized (which, fair enough, everyone does this to certain degrees for rules they think aren't a big deal or don't impact other people).
And clearly she wasn't expecting to have such a strong response from...
It is EXTREMELY common that for a smoke free space (room or entire hotel), the balcony is included in the smoke free context. Any frequent smoker would likely know this, thus she was hoping to avoid getting caught or penalized (which, fair enough, everyone does this to certain degrees for rules they think aren't a big deal or don't impact other people).
And clearly she wasn't expecting to have such a strong response from the hotel - she likely did this previously with no consequences. However, when you do get caught, just take ownership for your mistake. It drives me crazy when people try to get sympathy when they're in the wrong.
>It is EXTREMELY common that for a smoke free space
In like ... one country in the world, but go on.
Well she's in that one country so.... . It's also common in other large cities like Singapore.
Most accommodations in Australia are 100% non-smoking, too.
It's been smoke free for decades and has clearly written rules.
Was the $500 fee possibly an early departure fee as the hotel often is $500 or more a night.
Story sounds fishy to me.
What does her gender have to do with any this? Should she be treated differently than a male?
Hotel staff entered room AFTER she checked out? What am I missing here?
She admits to smoking on her balcony.
Sounds to me like we found our KAREN of THE WEEK.
Smokers deserve lung cancer.
A smoker seems to think that their stuff doesn’t stink and that they can light up anywhere they choose and the heck with the rest of us. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen! Sorry if the world is becoming less user friendly for smokers but in plain US English, SUCKS FOR YOU!
I smoked for many years but quit about 40 years ago. It’s not like this twit wasn’t told/warned...
A smoker seems to think that their stuff doesn’t stink and that they can light up anywhere they choose and the heck with the rest of us. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen! Sorry if the world is becoming less user friendly for smokers but in plain US English, SUCKS FOR YOU!
I smoked for many years but quit about 40 years ago. It’s not like this twit wasn’t told/warned about the "NO SMOKING BITCH" rule. she just felt she’d cheat and nobody would find out!
Probably is a Trump lover too~
Stories like this are why I stopped reading View From the Wing
Agreed, it's your blog ben but you have been covering a lot more such VFTWesque stories of late
In fairness, Ben states that he was tagged in her tweet(s). In this case he’s amplifying the story for her, but she’s not getting the sympathy she probably expected!
What a selfish entitled brat. She should be banned by the entire chain. No sympathy.
so she's been a guest of theirs for 20 years including her wedding night and isn't aware that smoking isn't permitted? Not buying it at all. In addition, -and I agree with Ben--I don't buy the "I only smoked one" defense; no smoker I know can only have just one. Also, even IF on the balcony only, second hand smoke wafts all over the place. Yes, even back into a hotel room. Nevertheless, I am...
so she's been a guest of theirs for 20 years including her wedding night and isn't aware that smoking isn't permitted? Not buying it at all. In addition, -and I agree with Ben--I don't buy the "I only smoked one" defense; no smoker I know can only have just one. Also, even IF on the balcony only, second hand smoke wafts all over the place. Yes, even back into a hotel room. Nevertheless, I am glad the hotel IS that "aggressive" (assuming they actually were "aggressive")
Hotel rooms permeating with cig smoke is noxious to another guest who stays in the room after her (assuming the smoke isn't dealt with right after a stay). Now, if detected post stay, it costs that hotel near that amount to clear the stench. Smokers really are completely clueless how their smoke saturates all clothes, walls, linens, etc. Trust me, I've stayed in smoking rooms in Europe and Japan and it's so awful even smokers I know will not stay in a smoking room.
I love how she has stayed there 20 times and never once noticed the entire property is smoke free. Bonkers lack of accountability and pathetic attempt at shirking responsibility.
I absolutely despise smoking and have my whole life.
That said - I think people missed something. She said she smoked outside, on the balcony. The fine language is based on smoking in the room. These are different things.
The quoted policy is: Please note that our entire resort is a smoke- and vape-free environment, including your room and balcony or terrace.
Smoking on a balcony still causes smoke to potentially enter rooms or waft over to other balconies and rooms. Just as obnoxious.
The balcony is outside the resort when the entire resort is smoke free?
The real question here for me is whether the policy is clearly communicated when booking and checking in, because having something parked on a corner of a website isn't going to ensure that everyone knows what's going on.
@Throwawayname
Policy is obvious.
You don't go in the pool naked because swimwear requirements are parked on a corner of a website.
Now why don't you go to the supermarket today naked. Let's see if you can get away with clothing policy is not clear.
Oh puhlease. You are exactly the sort of person who thinks that, unless there is a sign right beside where you are standing or sitting, that smoking is therefore permitted. Even in places the entire rest of the world for decades has known it is simply not - government property, hotel rooms, schools, hospitals, train stations et al. She is not ignorant - she knows full well it is not permitted, and is just an entitled arse.
I read a review yesterday about someone pissed off that they couldn't enjoy the balcony because the person below them was chain smoking. That's why they say the whole property. They don't want to deal with complaints from other customers or the smell in rooms and restaurants when people are smoking right outside (or claim they were)
Years ago when I used to smoke, I found a "trick" in hotel rooms with no balcony to smoke in the room.
Turn on the shower in the bathroom, and blow the smoke up to the vent (had to make sure the vent was extracting the air first)
Leave the shower running for 10 minutes after and poof (pun intended) the scent was gone with no trace.
This worked great until one...
Years ago when I used to smoke, I found a "trick" in hotel rooms with no balcony to smoke in the room.
Turn on the shower in the bathroom, and blow the smoke up to the vent (had to make sure the vent was extracting the air first)
Leave the shower running for 10 minutes after and poof (pun intended) the scent was gone with no trace.
This worked great until one morning at breakfast, my co worker who stayed in a room one floor above be, said he smelled cigarette smoke flowing into his bathroom the prior night.
The vent exhaust system from my room must have separated and blown directly into his room.
And that was when I kicked the habit and finally quit smoking for good.
You quit smoking because your co worker on a different floor smell it without even knowing it was you?
There's more to the story.
Many smokers wish they could quit, but it's very difficult. Sometimes it just takes one extra push...
The selfishness and rudeness of smokers never ceases to amaze and sadden me. Cigarette smoke makes a lot of people nauseous, but they don't care; they need their drug fix and to hell with other people. They seem to think that once the smoke goes into the air no one will notice it. One person smoking on a sidewalk makes the entire sidewalk disgusting to walk on for at least a few minutes. And if...
The selfishness and rudeness of smokers never ceases to amaze and sadden me. Cigarette smoke makes a lot of people nauseous, but they don't care; they need their drug fix and to hell with other people. They seem to think that once the smoke goes into the air no one will notice it. One person smoking on a sidewalk makes the entire sidewalk disgusting to walk on for at least a few minutes. And if it's in a narrow street area with little airflow (e.g., Venice), then the smoke will linger for 20+ minutes.
For this woman on her balcony, she made the balconies around and above her unusable for a while due to her disgusting habit. She should be ashamed. I'm glad she felt humiliated by the hotel. She should have been charged a larger fee and also banned my Hyatt.
Matty, it's the price we pay for living in a society together. There's loud music on phones, ugly children, loud-mouthed plebs, cheap perfume, your McDonald's smell, men with long hair, unkempt beards and glasses. Absolutely disgusting, but nothing I can do about it.
Live and let live :)
So many good response about smoking in public and the proper public etiquette.
Now let's apply that to pets owners, especially dog owners and walkers.
Then the public intoxicated people using and amount of legal or illegal drugs alcohol and caffeine.
Then finally the incompetent parents, who most likely also smoke, have dogs, on drugs, with an infant.
Her being scared is BS. She is using being scared to garner support. She believed she could do what she wanted without consequence. FAFO.
She stayed there 20- years and had her wedding there and never had a clue you couldn't smoke, which is a standard rule in pretty much all non-casino hotels. And everyone just so happens to be the pantomime villain for their role who, if course, never acted this way before I the....20- years she's stayed there. And, despite feeling completely safe on the 20- years she's stayed there, this one time changes EVERYTHING. And in...
She stayed there 20- years and had her wedding there and never had a clue you couldn't smoke, which is a standard rule in pretty much all non-casino hotels. And everyone just so happens to be the pantomime villain for their role who, if course, never acted this way before I the....20- years she's stayed there. And, despite feeling completely safe on the 20- years she's stayed there, this one time changes EVERYTHING. And in the 20 years she's stayed there, she hasn't gotten the name of anyone on staff she'd feel comfortable talking to? But she travels enough to know to contact one mile at a time?
That's going to be a no from me
This is 2025 and she's been staying at this hotel for the past 20 years. How could she not know? California started banning indoor smoking in 1995 and extended that to cover almost all spaces in 1998. That, together with the clear language on the website, undercuts any complaint she has.
Still, nice to know she had her wedding night there. I wonder what she was smoking then.
I definitely don't understand this interaction. She smoked when there is clearly a no smoking policy at this hotel. Why did security have to come bang on the door? Just charge the $500 to the folio for a smoking charge. They could have also just made a quick phone call up from the front desk and informed her again of the no smoking policy and that a $500 charge would be added. No real need for intimidation at all.
Also meant to post this not as a reply to this comment. My bad!
TL;DR: Millennial. Entitled. Broke Rule. Confronted. Projection. Fragile.
Well said!
It’s interesting that we only know her side and it already sounds like the hotel did everything right. Does she honestly believe the hotel is in the wrong?
Oh come on, she claims that she's been staying at that hotel for more than 20yrs and never knew that smoking was illegal? I mean, are there any big hotels that allow smoking anymore? Hell there's are some streets in Melbourne Australia where smoking is prohibited.
She's an attention whore hoping to gain sympathy instead of taking responsibility for her actions!
I sincerely don’t remember the last time I stayed in a hotel that had smoking rooms available and I’m generally in hotels about 60 nights a year. It is absolutely the exception and not the norm in the US.
On the plus side I remember having to change rooms in the past because of smoke odor and I haven’t had to do that in ages.
As a woman who travels alone, I would not open my door to someone who is banging loudly on it and claims to be security. Nor would I pay any attention if I am called and someone says they are from the front desk. The only way I would open my door is if I called the front desk and they told me the names of the security guard who are at my door and...
As a woman who travels alone, I would not open my door to someone who is banging loudly on it and claims to be security. Nor would I pay any attention if I am called and someone says they are from the front desk. The only way I would open my door is if I called the front desk and they told me the names of the security guard who are at my door and I verify the names the names with the people at my door. If they refuse to give their names, then I would call real police. On the other hand I think she's an absolute idiot to smoke in a no smoking property. When I was in graduate school both of my favorite roommates were smokers and even back in the day when smoking was allowed in rooms in American and other hotels, both of them would go downstairs and outside to get their nicotine fixes. Even they did not like to sleep in a room that had the smell of cigarette smoke.
Why is One Mile at a Time giving this “victim” attention? Please, move off the clickbait.
You clicked didn't you.
Clickbait is working for OMAAT.
Clickbait is a sugar high, but it comes at a price. Next OMAAT story I see with a headline that's begging for attention, maybe I won't click.
Using sugar high is probably not the best analogy.
With obesity rates rising, sugar is winning the war.
See you on the next clickbait, obesity will make you click.
In this day and age, are there any big brand name hotels that allow guests to smoke in their rooms?
I'm puzzled by the "Nobody warned me/I didn't see [smoking was not allowed]."
Very unlikely in the US, but outside the US big brand name hotels sometimes have smoking floors.
Very custom/ location dependent.
Not in inside the rooms but many chain hotels will allow or at least tolerate it on balconies/terraces if nobody complains. Outside the US there are still plenty of properties that officially allow it.
But she had been smoking on the balcony, not in the room itself. I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption to make that it's possible to smoke in an open space. I'd actually be at risk of inadvertently falling foul of such a policy as I have never smoked a cigarette in my life and wouldn't ever check the smoking policy of an establishment because I don't need to smoke, but at the same time...
But she had been smoking on the balcony, not in the room itself. I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption to make that it's possible to smoke in an open space. I'd actually be at risk of inadvertently falling foul of such a policy as I have never smoked a cigarette in my life and wouldn't ever check the smoking policy of an establishment because I don't need to smoke, but at the same time I do enjoy the occasional al fresco cigar after dinner and/or with a nice glass of whisky. Of course there are now entire cities/regions-states/countries which outlaw smoking in many/most open-air public spaces, and that's different.
Of course, a hotel is within its rights to ban smoking anywhere on the premises, but imposing financial penalties in consumer contracts is plainly illegal in quite a few jurisdictions (certainly in the UK). It's one thing if they apply a cleaning charge to anyone smoking inside the room and quite another to basically charge money for nothing.
I'm a bit shocked by the extreme anti-smoking sentiment in the comments. While I agree that it's not nice of people to smoke when there are others nearby, demanding the imposition of legal/contractual sanctions against anyone who dares to smoke in an open space isn't a particularly tolerant thing to do and makes me question the person's ability/willingness to coexist with others in society. Let's say you can get hotel management to penalise that person, what are you going to do when your next door neighbour smokes in their garden which obviously borders yours? Get the police to kick their door in?
@Throwawayname
Cannot believe the level of entitlement and ignorance you gave.
"I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption to make that it's possible to smoke in an open space."
-I'm thinking the same exact opposite "I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption to make that it's never allowed to smoke in an open space.
(certainly in the UK)
-This in not UK.
and quite another to basically charge money for nothing.
-Ironically...
@Throwawayname
Cannot believe the level of entitlement and ignorance you gave.
"I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption to make that it's possible to smoke in an open space."
-I'm thinking the same exact opposite "I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption to make that it's never allowed to smoke in an open space.
(certainly in the UK)
-This in not UK.
and quite another to basically charge money for nothing.
-Ironically that's exactly what UK APD is.
"makes me question the person's ability/willingness to coexist with others in society"
-Makes me question you too.
"what are you going to do when your next door neighbour smokes in their garden which obviously borders yours?"
-Exactly what the person in the room next door did. Report it to management.
Police kicking down doors is not your problem and is a whole different issue.
Taxes aren't money for nothing, of course they can be very poor value but that's different.
Irrespectively of that, I do think you have completely misunderstood my comment.
An unqualified assumption that 'smoking isn't allowed in open spaces' is plainly illogical, I think you'll agree that nobody would expect the Algerian government to send a helicopter in order to arrest someone smoking in the middle of Sahara. An assumption about whether smoking on a hotel...
Taxes aren't money for nothing, of course they can be very poor value but that's different.
Irrespectively of that, I do think you have completely misunderstood my comment.
An unqualified assumption that 'smoking isn't allowed in open spaces' is plainly illogical, I think you'll agree that nobody would expect the Algerian government to send a helicopter in order to arrest someone smoking in the middle of Sahara. An assumption about whether smoking on a hotel balcony is permitted is more context-dependent, and clearly the person in question was familiar enough with that establishment and should have known better, so what you or I would assume in the circumstances is irrelevant other than to note that not everyone will be having the same expectations and that hotels should be clear about their policies.
My point re the garden was related to the other comments here which seemed to be clamouring for a blanket prohibition of smoking applying to all open spaces where there's a possibility of the smoke reaching anyone else. Whoever chooses to stay in a smoke-free resort is of course entitled to speak to the management about other customers not following the policy...but that's not how I read the previous comments.
Taxes aren't money for nothing,
-Depends on who you ask. And just because you're the government makes it acceptable.
"arrest someone smoking in the middle of Sahara"
"more context-dependent,"
"should have known better,"
"hotels should be clear about their policies"
-The entitlement of you. Rules are rules, no smoking isn't vague in any context. Enforcement of rules is not your problem. Just because you didn't get caught jumping red light...
Taxes aren't money for nothing,
-Depends on who you ask. And just because you're the government makes it acceptable.
"arrest someone smoking in the middle of Sahara"
"more context-dependent,"
"should have known better,"
"hotels should be clear about their policies"
-The entitlement of you. Rules are rules, no smoking isn't vague in any context. Enforcement of rules is not your problem. Just because you didn't get caught jumping red light for 20 years doesn't make it OK in any context. Should have know better is not an excuse being caught after 20 years of breaking the rules.
"the garden was related to the other comments here"
-Which one in particular?
I don't see any comment that is trying to blanket all open spaces. All is targeting public spaces you share with someone else.
See DenB's comment. It's a very loose definition of sharing a space, and smoking in the garden next to one's own would be included in that.
Again, I'm definitely not against choice in there being hotels and other spaces reserved for non-smokers- businesses should have discretion about that sort of thing. My concern is about the state centrally mandating that through statutory instruments- it goes beyond the proportionality that justifies banning smoking in enclosed spaces...
See DenB's comment. It's a very loose definition of sharing a space, and smoking in the garden next to one's own would be included in that.
Again, I'm definitely not against choice in there being hotels and other spaces reserved for non-smokers- businesses should have discretion about that sort of thing. My concern is about the state centrally mandating that through statutory instruments- it goes beyond the proportionality that justifies banning smoking in enclosed spaces to protect workers etc.
Way to go Hyatt! Take care of your assets and move on! This self entitled guest needs to stay home and have her pity party.
Kudos for the security!
To become aware of the violation and handing out a fine.
Smokers need to make sure that no others health is impacted by their addiction. And you cannot control the wind and make sure that the smoke does not go to the other balcony. So a general prohibition is the way to go!
So I really appreciate hotels taking care of non-smokers where rules are actually enforced.
Only with financial fines...
Kudos for the security!
To become aware of the violation and handing out a fine.
Smokers need to make sure that no others health is impacted by their addiction. And you cannot control the wind and make sure that the smoke does not go to the other balcony. So a general prohibition is the way to go!
So I really appreciate hotels taking care of non-smokers where rules are actually enforced.
Only with financial fines which hurt, the group of smokers will learn to respect non-smokers.
Keep in mind, in most countries smokers are a minority and the right to stay unharmed is more important than “the claim of freedom for smokers”
I honestly dread to see what the world is like in another 20 years.
People just have ZERO accountability for their own actions these days. Everything is someone else's fault. Or because of your gender, race, religion, cultural background etc etc.
Question: WOULD SECURITY HAVE BEEN BANGING ON HER DOOR IF SHE WAS NOT BREAKING THE RULES? We all know the answer.
Seems like you don’t understand the possibility that not everyone who bangs on a door claiming to be security is actually security. Women traveling alone are not infrequently targets for that sort of thing.
Not that this excuses any of the rest of her actions. She obviously shouldn’t have been smoking and could’ve verified it was security by calling the front desk.
I would have been bending over backwards to make things easier for myself and avoid a fine.
The first thing I would do would be to shout through the closed door that I am calling the front desk to confirm it is security.
Second, call front desk and verify.
Third - start grovelling.
Female smoker & traveler here. I do not smoke often away from home, it stinks and it's unfair for others to smell it. I have never smoked inside a residence or vehicle. At a hotel the closest legal area can be quite far off the premises and that is part of the cost of smoking. I have no sympathy for an abuser that tries to weasel out of the consequences.
Sorry, but I see nothing wrong with smoking a cigarette outside the room on the balcony, in Europe no problem!
If it’s specifically forbidden you don’t do it. And it’s also the same in Europe. Many smokers also think it’s appropriate not to discard the cigarette butts property. Filthy habit. Also fed up of “ solo female” to gain empathy.
Here's what's wrong with it. The fact that you are outside doesn't mean that your disgusting (to others) smoke just unexists. this is themistake that smokers often make: they believe that by going outside, or waving a hand, or turning slightly to the left, they've ended the offence and nobody should complain.
As for Europe, only some of Europe still tolerates smoking as a normal behaviour all should accept. To most people it's an assault...
Here's what's wrong with it. The fact that you are outside doesn't mean that your disgusting (to others) smoke just unexists. this is themistake that smokers often make: they believe that by going outside, or waving a hand, or turning slightly to the left, they've ended the offence and nobody should complain.
As for Europe, only some of Europe still tolerates smoking as a normal behaviour all should accept. To most people it's an assault on the senses. If you can smoke so I never smell it, then I have zero complain and I'll leave you alone and even defenc your right. the moment I smell it you're a gonner. Smoking on a balcony will definitely affect those in the unit above, the one above that, and any uints next door on either side.
If I were trying to enjoy the bacony above, I'd threaten the hotel with an immediate checkout and expectation of a full refund.
Preach!
DenB, calm down. And please stop taking our continent's name in your mouth when you're clearly Alabama-educated levels of informed.
Agreed. You sure don't need the gestapo busting in when you do.
"Addict breaks law in order to get a fix; expects pity."
There, fixed it for ya.
While working in hotels for years, especially overnight audit manager when I find out you’re smoking I have you immediately put out the hotel that minute ain’t nothing about it. I’m trying to put anything on your bill so you can dispute it just get out, one time a guy brought a blow torch for his bong fraternity group, All four people in his room were put out and we had pictures.
Lighting their cones with a blow-torch? Man, that’s dedication. Cannabis smoke stinks to high heaven and the smell carries a long way, so a serious session in a hotel room would be very difficult to disguise.
She clearly knows she was in the wrong, and is trying to desperately garner social media support with her one-sided story using the common ‘single woman’ and carefully selected‘ shaken, unsafe, humiliated’ pre legal terms. That story, however, is getting old. Pay your fine, honey.
The concerns about people coming into the room are what pushes it over the edge for me. Like, I'm sorry, you checked out but don't expect them to go in the room?? Even while you're checked in, do you not...get housekeeping?
" I froze in fear" What a moron
I had "some" sympathy until she pulled the "woman card" Once you pull the (Fill in the bank ... race, sex, ntionality, etc.) card, then I lose all sympathey for you. I am male, and would be alarmed at banging on the door, as well. A simple call to the front desk could have confirmed the security legitimacy. She is just using the "woman in fear" excuse because she was busted for violating the clear rules.
Feeling "violated, disrespected and dismissed" is shrill language for someone who violated smoking rules. Why did she question the authenticity of security knocking at the door after she was clearly observed smoking. Who else would knock? Lady, suck it up...
So she broke the rules, got fined what they said they would fine her, hotel staff entered the room AFTER she checked out... What is her complaint?
Seems like SHE is the problem here.
And then humiliates herself even more by posting online. People really have no self awareness.