SWISS Makes Up Bizarre Lie To Deny Compensation Claim
Note: There’s a bit more to this story, so see my updated reporting here.

While I think many of us have low expectations when reaching out to airline customer service, this might just take the cake as the worst response I’ve ever seen…

SWISS blames issues on a plane it doesn’t fly

X/Twitter user @maxdiamondny was on a SWISS flight from New York (JFK) to Geneva (GVA) in mid-May that was canceled due to a technical fault. While most people don’t like to have their flight canceled, there was a silver lining — the cancelation qualified for EU261 compensation, entitling him to €600 in cash compensation.

So he submitted the request with the airline through the appropriate form, only to receive a denial. When he followed up, the SWISS representative doubled down, and wrote the following:

Thank you for your response. Please accept my apologizes for the delay in my response.

I regret my message of 04 June 2024 did not meet your expectations.

Your flight has been reviewed and as advised previously, your flight was cancelled due to a result of Rudder Servo Fault due to vulnerability of the 737 main rudder servo valve to causing uncommanded reversals was indeed a significant concern. I hope you can understand we have no control over such circumstances.

Therefore, I regret that you are not eligible for compensation in accordance with the regulation EU 261/2004.

Although I well understand your irritation in view of your experience, I hope you understand that I cannot grant a favourable to your request for the reasons explained.

I’m sorry, but what?!? There’s so much wrong with this that I don’t even know where to begin:

  • The flight in question was operated by an A330, and not a 737; for that matter, SWISS doesn’t even have the 737 in its fleet
  • In the 1990s, the 737 did have a rudder issue that caused fatal accidents, though that was fully corrected *checks notes* over two decades ago
  • Even if this were caused by a technical issue with the aircraft, that absolutely would qualify for EU261 compensation
https://twitter.com/maxdiamondny/status/1798511577597157387

How do you even come up with such a lie?!?

The above response is so bad that it borders on being comical. The worst part is that this isn’t even the company’s first response to the customer, but rather it’s the second response, after he called them out for their first poor response.

I wish it were an isolated incident for an airline to try to deny paying out government mandated compensation. Unfortunately it’s not, and these kinds of lies are all too common. The only thing that’s surprising here is just how absurd the lie is, blaming it on an aircraft the airline doesn’t even fly, with a problem that existed 30 years ago and caused fatal accidents. What’s next — in a few years, will SWISS be blaming flight cancelations on 9/11?

Obviously it would be easiest for customer service agents to just, you know, provide customer service, and issue the compensation that the government mandates. So how do we get to the point where an A330 cancelation is blamed on a 737 rudder failure from decades ago?

  • Does management just tell employees to make up literally any excuse they can come up with, no matter how nonsensical?
  • Even worse, how can an agent claim they reviewed the file, and confirmed that this was indeed the correct reason?
  • Are customer service employees paid a commission on how many claims they can deny?

Could any airline employee who has knowledge of these kinds of situations (anonymously) share how this happens? Are customer service agents just told to make up whatever excuse they’d like, or does the airline provide a list of made up reasons that they can copy and paste?

This is highly unethical at best, and illegal at worst. For the jurisdictions that have consumer protections and mandate compensation, it would be nice if there were an enforcement mechanism for ensuring airlines don’t try to violate laws.

A SWISS Boeing 737, apparently

Bottom line

While it’s common for airlines to try to make up excuses to deny compensation, blaming an A330 cancelation on a 737 rudder issue that happened in the 1990s must be a new low. Even worse is that this was the response after the customer questioned the initial email, but the agent confirmed that information was correct. There really needs to be more accountability for these kinds of situations.

What do you make of this SWISS denial?

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Dan Guest

Bro don't get mad, I think they just use the free version of ChatGPT to get a denials lol.

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John Guest

For anyone with a similar experience I recommend to lodge a case with FOCA (Federal Office of Civil Aviation in Switzerland), link at the bottom of this page: https://www.bazl.admin.ch/bazl/en/home/passagiere/air-passenger-rights.html It may take some time to get a response but it only involves filling in a form and is free. I had a similar case a couple of years ago where my return flight with Swiss to Switzerland was cancelled shortly before departure, apparently for technical issues. Swiss brushed off my initial compensation claim, claiming the circumstances were “outside of our control.” We then lodged a case with FOCA. A few weeks later we magically received a email from Swiss requesting bank details, followed by payment of the due compensation. Much later (almost a year) we received a closing email from FOCA notifying us that based on our claim they had opened an administrative penal procedure against the airline, which was then closed in consideration of the fact that the appropriate compensation had ultimately been paid.

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Antonella Modesti Guest

My daughter’s flight HAM-GVA LX1047 on 13.08.2023 was cancelled. Swiss refused any refund saying it was due to a bird strike. No info about bird strikes were in the press. I asked for an official « incident report » of the cancellation, they answered they were not obliged to provide it! To my daughter’s friend, in the same reservation, was given a completely different excuse for the cancellation: «Ground handling restrictions». I am sure they were deliberately lying! Since then, I simply do not fly Swiss any longer!

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Dan Guest

I had the same issue on a flight London to Geneva a few years ago the flight was over four hours late. Swiss wouldn't tell me the reason why and when I asked for proof they said it was commercially sensitive so refused. In the end I filed through the arbitration/appeal mechanism, fortunately I'm a lawyer so not afraid to do something like that, but I imagine most people would just let it go which sucks. Anyway, next thing I know I have swiss premium customer care emailing me saying they will settle the claim with the EU compensation. They denied my friend on the flight with me too.

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Courcoison Guest

Good day: I have just experienced the same issue with Lufthansa. I was denied compensation pursuant to Regulation (EC) No. 261/2004 twice by Lufthansa customer service in writing back in February and March 2024. I assigned my case to flightright.com and Lufthansa had to pay. Out of the 600 Euros compensation I received 420 euros and Flightright kept as agreed 180 Euros. I shall now address the issue with Lufthansa directly to see if I can recover directly from them the 180 euros i had to forgo in order to prevail. Flightright provided great service and help. Best.

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