JetBlue is known for having seat back entertainment throughout its fleet, which is (usually) a treat for passengers. As an aviation geek, one of the things that I like most about this is the ability to use the map feature, and track the progress of the flight. Well, after a recent controversy, JetBlue is in the process of switching to a new map vendor.
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JetBlue map labels Israel as “Palestinian Territories”
It goes without saying that the current conflict between Israel and Palestine has been incredibly divisive, and in some cases this has put airlines in tough spots. For example, Delta has banned employees from wearing flag pins, in order to prevent them from wearing Palestinian flag pins, while United has taken the opposite approach, and continues to allow this.
JetBlue was recently in the news when some passengers noticed the questionable way in which the inflight map feature labeled Israel. This map feature changed Israel’s borders (to remove Golan Heights), and labeled much of Israel as “Palestinian Territories.”
Interestingly, this wasn’t uncovered for quite some time. However, during a recent flight, an Israeli woman studying in the United States tried to show another passenger where Israel was located through the inflight map, when she noticed the labeling. As the woman explained, “the label was prominently displayed in a way that didn’t seem innocent.”
As you’d expect, this generated quite the discussion online, and the airline has now taken action…
JetBlue switches map vendors over controversy
Following the backlash over JetBlue’s labeling of Israel, the airline has committed to switching vendors for its inflight map. As JetBlue explains in a statement:
“We’re sorry for the concern this has caused. We can assure you that no one on the JetBlue team was involved with drawing or labeling the map of the region and we were not previously aware of the issue.”
“After a careful review, we have decided to switch to a new map vendor. While our content provider works on making this transition, we have also asked the current vendor to adjust our onboard map so that it aligns with the U.S. government’s map guidance for the region. We are making these changes as quickly as the technology allows.”
A few thoughts on this situation:
- It’s anyone’s guess for how long the map feature had been labeling Israel in this way; since JetBlue flies nowhere close to Israel, it could very well have been that way for quite some time, without anyone noticing
- Regardless of how one feels about Israel vs. Palestine, an airline should be following the official guidance of the government to avoid controversy
- On the part of the map vendor, I do think this labeling was intentional, and I don’t think it was an oversight or a mistake, but rather a feature
- That being said, I feel strongly that this wasn’t intentional on JetBlue’s part, and JetBlue is handling this as well as it can, by apologizing and switching vendors quickly
Bottom line
JetBlue recently made headlines because its inflight map prominently showed much of Israel as being “Palestinian Territories,” which didn’t go over well with many passengers. The airline has responded quickly by cutting ties with its current map vendor. I’d say the airline handled this situation about as well as it could have…
What do you make of this JetBlue controversy?
I don't wish to wade into the online politics of how a blog post on inflight cartography reflects the author's position on genocide, and the example it sets for his son. I am however puzzled by the map showing Gaza (ostensibly the city based on the teardrop logo), Tel Aviv (a city), Jerusalem (a city), Irbid (a city)-- but not Ramallah (which is not a small a city). I don't have an explanation for it...
I don't wish to wade into the online politics of how a blog post on inflight cartography reflects the author's position on genocide, and the example it sets for his son. I am however puzzled by the map showing Gaza (ostensibly the city based on the teardrop logo), Tel Aviv (a city), Jerusalem (a city), Irbid (a city)-- but not Ramallah (which is not a small a city). I don't have an explanation for it nefarious or otherwise, hence my being puzzled.
Bottom line: I am puzzled as to why the city Ramallah is not shown on the map.
Most people don’t care and before 1948 all maps were labeled Palestine not Israel
The native “Palestinians” are the Jews. Few people actually realize that. The Arabs slaughtered and invaded the Jewish native people claiming a pedophile they worshipped flew a horse there or some such baloney, but those foreign Arabs now claiming to be “Palestinians” are no more than yet another group of people in a series of outside invaders that have eventually been ousted from the Jewish native lands, and rightly so.
So… when someone says...
The native “Palestinians” are the Jews. Few people actually realize that. The Arabs slaughtered and invaded the Jewish native people claiming a pedophile they worshipped flew a horse there or some such baloney, but those foreign Arabs now claiming to be “Palestinians” are no more than yet another group of people in a series of outside invaders that have eventually been ousted from the Jewish native lands, and rightly so.
So… when someone says today “Palestine” from the river to the sea, they are ignorantly recognizing the obvious- the Jewish natives and their land the Romans “renamed” Palestine as an insult to the Jews are in fact Jewish from the river to the sea.
Peoples’ ignorance is beyond comprehension on this issue.
The native Jews are in fact the original, native Palestinians.
No. They're not. There isn't an academic scholar in the world that can stand by your statement.
But there are lots that can stand by mine.
There is no historical evidence. As a matter of fact, during the late Bronze age, Egypt had hegemony over large parts of Canaan, and how much sense does moving from Egypt, to... Egypt make? Canaan wasn’t controlled by competing nations (Canaanties, Hittites, Jebusites, whatever) but by Egypt...
No. They're not. There isn't an academic scholar in the world that can stand by your statement.
But there are lots that can stand by mine.
There is no historical evidence. As a matter of fact, during the late Bronze age, Egypt had hegemony over large parts of Canaan, and how much sense does moving from Egypt, to... Egypt make? Canaan wasn’t controlled by competing nations (Canaanties, Hittites, Jebusites, whatever) but by Egypt for much of the period, with the Hittites to the north being the other superpower of the day. That breaks the Joshua narrative as well bud.
Weird if they were supposedly there, there is no reference to Israel in Egypt in Egyptian sources, even though there are lots of other references. Why would that be? Mernepteh stele is the first reference to the existence of Israel (where they are not in Egypt). Again, why?
No archaeological record of a Semitic group of that size or anywhere near it in Egypt at that or any other time; that the ; that 2-3 million people escaping is not plausible for all sorts of reasons - namely because by the time the first reached there, 500ish mile away, the last would still be waiting in line to leave and start their walk, I won't even start on the stupid 400 years figure; If R.E. Friedman is correct- his arguments are very persuasive-, the Exodus’ main migrant group were the Egyptian Levites,likely joined by slaves and other Canaanites.
Either way, you're completely FOS, you know you, you're lying and you've NEVER actually looked it up. None of you have, you're repeating lines of propaganda fed to you by your government, handed down by Theodore Herzl.
Britain classified the illegal refugees as TERRORISTS in 1945, 1946, 1947, and then they withdrew, because the TERRORIST kept bombing them. Haifa Oil Plant, King David Hotel, British Police HQ, etc.
So don't come in here with your dumb lie. You want to tell everyone about Israels "Genetic Information Law", where you're not allowed to order a DNA test without a court order? Want to tell them how there are only two companies that will ship to Israel, even with a court order? 23andMe, and Family Tree. Funny that the leader and most credible, Ancestry.com, won't even ship there.
I know you're going to lie, give a nothing reference, maybe even call me antisemitic for telling the truth.
Here's the truth. I don't like liars who commit genocide based on a God from a book Jews wrote, for Jews, and only Jews could hear it. But then Jews don't even view the Bible as important. The Talmud and Oral Tradition rank higher than the bible. The bible - Tanakh - is only important when you want to steal land. But the Bible isn't a history book joker. And it's not close to accurate. Something can't be it's own evidence or source. It's circular.
it just needs one genius to cause her colleagues losing their jobs.
Go WOKE go BROKE
Hilarious - that great fake squatter nation is just a temporary blip on maps anyway ;)
A people who've been driven out of their ancient kingdoms of Judea and Israel, exiled, persecuted over 2000 years, maligned, despised, driven into concentration camps, worked to death, and burned in ovens....tend to be sensitive [shock, horror!] when someone deliberately messes around with their country. I would feel the same way too. Just saying...
They labeled a subdivision of land, with out marking the border of those territories? This wasn't an innocent mistake.
No, it was just accurate and he's using the international standard. The United Nations calls them the "occupied Palestinian territory", or the "occupied territories."
And they have since 1979. Just like all of it's members except for the rogue western states.
Not everything is about you. Most things aren't. Using a map correctly, is not about you. If the person was American, they probably don't even know that Israel is illegally occupying West Bank,...
No, it was just accurate and he's using the international standard. The United Nations calls them the "occupied Palestinian territory", or the "occupied territories."
And they have since 1979. Just like all of it's members except for the rogue western states.
Not everything is about you. Most things aren't. Using a map correctly, is not about you. If the person was American, they probably don't even know that Israel is illegally occupying West Bank, committing war crimes and genocide.
But hey, using legal definitions from the body created to protect Jews from a Holocaust that also has international authority and 192 member states in the General Assembly, meaning it represents all of the worlds aligned states, is way too logical. So ofc, it's got to be intentional and you have to be the victim. Why else would anyone care about you AT ALL if you weren't crying and making them care?
Too bad they're not so sensitive about genociding the whole people that stayed back there when they left the land for 2000 years, don't you think? That's what's shocking for me.
I'm not really sure what the issue really was. The map stated Israel and Palestinian Territories, isn't that the case? Is this because the map did not itemize Gaza Strip and the West Bank, which would have taken even more characters? As for the Golan Heights, they have not been recognized by the international community as being legally part of Israel so I'm not sure what was erroneous there. All this seems like a fabricated drama.
You're right from head to toe, but that takes away the controversy that is used for creating a notion that the map provider had some kind of plot against Israel... and god forbid so Israeli whining go unanswered.
Recently saw a map of the US labelled as the Untied States of America on a brochure. None of us made a fuss and were actually giggling at the honest mistake. Some Israelis need to chill out.
Outrageous. Everyone missed the most important part, Jordan is improperly labeled. The correct name is Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.
But really, as an Israeli...this is plain bs. The font was the same size, but the word happens to be longer. Oh my what a tragedy. Common people move on.
weird how the map has a fictitious label...no such thing as "palestine."
Oh, you almost got it! So close!
There is a fictitious state on the map, it's called "Israhell", also known as Occupied Palestine!
Come on, buddy... The place should be just Palestine, with jews living there as they live everywhere else. Creating Israel was the single greatest mistake of the UN, unless you go forth and assume that it was created to be a european-american enclave to de-stabelize the whole region and facilitate...
Oh, you almost got it! So close!
There is a fictitious state on the map, it's called "Israhell", also known as Occupied Palestine!
Come on, buddy... The place should be just Palestine, with jews living there as they live everywhere else. Creating Israel was the single greatest mistake of the UN, unless you go forth and assume that it was created to be a european-american enclave to de-stabelize the whole region and facilitate the exploration and exploitation of the Meddle East.
I think it is curious that they are switching then map vendor but having him adjust the label in the meantime. Sounds just doing the second option would be enough or is this a case that the airline lost trust in the vendor?
I hope the woke will go all the way.
The IFE map vendor is THALES which is used by over 50 airlines, including AA AC BA and TAAG Angola.
Go after them too please.
Dare say a word about Palestinians right to exist and you’ll end up eating your words by the powerful Israelis at the top. It’s the US of Israel, not America. Duh.
And they say the same about illuminati.
You should set a better example for Miles, Ben. Children should not be raised to be pro Genoc*de. Do better.
I don't care which side anyone supports. But for those pompous aholes who say "Do better" in any discussion should eff off and STFU.
Ben Schlappig you can’t hide, you’re supporting Genoc*de
Ben is most definitely not supporting Hamas, the only genocidal force in this conflict.
at this point israel would be entirely within their rights to do some good ol' genocide.
You are an idiot… hopefully Ben prohibits your IP address from posting ever again!
@ Endre: You are not aware of Iran-Contra scandal under Reagan administration !!!
@ Joseph: I always tend to look for the root causes of the problem. We must understand the history to learn from it and to look for sound solution. If we do not, we may become history or irrelevant. However, I am utmost confident that all politicians, including the Presidents, except Clinton, their advisors and the public, namely you, either do not...
@ Endre: You are not aware of Iran-Contra scandal under Reagan administration !!!
@ Joseph: I always tend to look for the root causes of the problem. We must understand the history to learn from it and to look for sound solution. If we do not, we may become history or irrelevant. However, I am utmost confident that all politicians, including the Presidents, except Clinton, their advisors and the public, namely you, either do not know the history of the conflict or reinforce the colonist /imperialist beliefs. History is unchanged, not the way the victorious or the powerful rewrites it. For over two decades, I always ask one same question to the older generation of Israeli tourists why Israel and the US allowed Khomeini ascended to power in Iran when he was living in exile in Paris at the time. But I never hear a satisfactory answer that aligns with historical events. It was not and will not be the US first rodeo in overseas "regime change": Egypt and Indonesia in the 50s, Vietnam in the 60s, Chile in 70s, and as late as Libya in Arab Spring a decade ago. Two memorable answers stand out: Iranians refused to let the Shah's son assume power after he abdicated and the 2015 nuclear agreements signed between Iran and US!!! If the native born Israeli does not know history, I expect nothing else from those who are US native born Israeli/ Jew/ Zionist.
I can briefly, easily and expeditiously debunk the slogan" Israel has the right to self- defense" that all politicians endorse and promote. Israel has bombed Syria, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon--all sovereign states and West Bank -- a sovereign government without their provocation. These bombings and drones are act an of military aggression and attack. Shockingly, Yemen is not on the target list now. The US and USSR were in the cold war and supported their friendly regimes but they never bombed each other. The US is in constant global wars since the end of WWII. Is it a leader who defends democracy and human rights or a warmonger? When and where was the last military victory since the 2003 Iraq invasion? I definitely do not want my tax dollars fuel the Gazan war. Where are the Jewish/ Zionist billionaires who do not put their $$$ where their mouths are? Research and cruise by the mega mansions where all CEOs of defense contractors live near the Pentagon. $1.2 B spent from 10/7 thru mid January while we are in USD35T in deficit? But I wholeheartedly support Ukraine to fight for its survival. You strongly advocate for the "chokehold" policy in Gaza but fail to acknowledge its consequence of genocide and annihilation.
Germany, Italy and Japan were the three fascist countries before WWII. Yet, Truman dropped two atomic bombs on Japan only. You catch my drift?
Unsure if I understand the definition of "terrorist" the same way as everyone else does. How did all third world countries gain their independence from their colonist powers? Were their founding fathers/ leaders terrorists to defeat the colonist powers and gained independence? The European Jews fought with the British to cede Palestine that gave birth to Israel. Were its founding fathers along with Mandela terrorists also? One exception is Ghandi who fought and won independence from Britain without violence and bloodshed. Correct me if I am wrong. But he was an exceptional outlier that there was no other fit his category. I tend to talk about the norm not the exception. How did Britain agreed to relinquish India in non violence? Are there no white terrorists but only dark Muslims? Obviously because the news media never labeled the IRA as terrorists.
Lastly, Ben has legit reasons to withhold his opinions. We can see it happen on all public domains: TV award shows, DNC, talk show hosts, etc... Everyone has opinions about the Gazan war but most choose to remain tight lipped. Neither the US nor Israel is a democratic country. The silent majority remains is desensitized and fearful of the consequences of speaking out and speaking up while the vocal minority spreads disinformation and name calling. It is possible that Ben does not have sufficient knowledge to add value to the discussion. It is a better approach than those who spread misinformation and slap racist labels on others who express different if not opposite viewpoints.
@globetrotter Truman bombed Japan because we were losing many soldiers trying to over take small islands on the way to the Japanese mainland.
It would have been criminal to send troops onto Japan en masse. We lost nearly 1 out of 3 soldiers at Iwo Jima.
Okinawa was a shit show.
With The Invention of Internet, Ther world opinion of Middle East has changed 100%! The comment section of this Blog would have been 100% if not more in Favor of Israelis. It would have been Arabs as with Crooked Noses (even though it is the other way around) and TERRORISTS as shown in Old Action movies. No more! Granted, FaceBook, Google,yahoo etc is 100% controlled By them. TIKTOK is being Challanged openly By the Israelis...
With The Invention of Internet, Ther world opinion of Middle East has changed 100%! The comment section of this Blog would have been 100% if not more in Favor of Israelis. It would have been Arabs as with Crooked Noses (even though it is the other way around) and TERRORISTS as shown in Old Action movies. No more! Granted, FaceBook, Google,yahoo etc is 100% controlled By them. TIKTOK is being Challanged openly By the Israelis in US Govt to Follow the Path of FB & Google or Get Banned in US.
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Of World Population controlling what goes on in the world. Bombing in Syria, Genocide in Gaza, Bombings in Lebanon, Assassinating scientists and Politicians in Iran, Instigating war in Iraq and All this while Playing the "VICTIM" Card!
The outrage and offense over the term "Palestinian territories" being 16 characters longer than "Israel," and therefore requiring more space on a map, alongside the exclusion of the illegally annexed Golan Heights (an occupied Syrian territory) from Israel's map, SURPASSING the outrage over the live-streamed, US sponsored, Israeli slaughter of tens of thousands of children in the Gaza Genocide is breathtakingly absurd, disgusting, and vile! What a dystopian hell we live in. Shame on all...
The outrage and offense over the term "Palestinian territories" being 16 characters longer than "Israel," and therefore requiring more space on a map, alongside the exclusion of the illegally annexed Golan Heights (an occupied Syrian territory) from Israel's map, SURPASSING the outrage over the live-streamed, US sponsored, Israeli slaughter of tens of thousands of children in the Gaza Genocide is breathtakingly absurd, disgusting, and vile! What a dystopian hell we live in. Shame on all of you. SHAME
Do you feel better now?
How some people sympathize with terrorists and a regime that despises Western values is beyond comprehension. You people are sick.
“Western values” of colonization and ethnic cleansing?
I’m good thanks.
100% agreed. Zionists are terrorists and despise western values. They belong on trial in The Hague
So, as I understand it, the major "issue" prompting the complaint was that someone from Israel was forced to acknowledge Palestinians living in Palestinian Territories, while talking about Israel.
What sad a world.
While flying over the US should the same map label the southwestern states as “The Lost Mexican Territories” to acknowledge the Mexicans living in Texas, Arizona, Nevada Utah and New Mexico….. or shall we live in reality?
(eyeroll)
Um, no. The Palestinian Territories are a distinct political entity, unlike the lost Mexican territories.
Nope, they are not and never have been a sovereign political entity. Tribal sovereignty in the United States is much more inherent and legitimate yet they don’t have a label on in-flight entertainment, have been subject to much more oppression yet they don’t go conducting homicidal raids (anymore).
First, Jetblue wasn't flying over Palestine or Israel, and never has.
Second, I think a more appropriate parallel would be lost Native American lands (after they were killed/removed by US settler-colonist)
Third, the *reality* is that millions of people live in the West Bank, under Israeli military rule. Your desire to "erase" gives a perfect window into the aims of the Zionist project, and why it should be resisted at all costs for...
First, Jetblue wasn't flying over Palestine or Israel, and never has.
Second, I think a more appropriate parallel would be lost Native American lands (after they were killed/removed by US settler-colonist)
Third, the *reality* is that millions of people live in the West Bank, under Israeli military rule. Your desire to "erase" gives a perfect window into the aims of the Zionist project, and why it should be resisted at all costs for the sake of our collective humanity.
On a more pragmatic and less emotional level….JetBlue codeshares with EL AL, makes sense to keep your business partner who contributes to your revenue happy. Go somewhere else with the pearl clutching!
Leadership dictates the destiny of the country and its people. The Oslo Accord was the only meaningful peace agreement between the Palestinians and Israelis. Rabin genuinely cared about the Palestinian cause and he was assassinated in 11/95. I visited Jerusalem in 2/95 while living and working in Kuwait but got to see the country before the walls were erected to keep Palestinians out. According to Denis Ross, Arafat was skittished about it for fear of...
Leadership dictates the destiny of the country and its people. The Oslo Accord was the only meaningful peace agreement between the Palestinians and Israelis. Rabin genuinely cared about the Palestinian cause and he was assassinated in 11/95. I visited Jerusalem in 2/95 while living and working in Kuwait but got to see the country before the walls were erected to keep Palestinians out. According to Denis Ross, Arafat was skittished about it for fear of being buried in the coffin. Well, Muslims do not bury a corpse in the coffin and it shows Ross was not a competent MidEast expert. Palestinians have burned bridges with their Arab Muslim neighbors. They have multiple violent and militant groups among themselves butchering each other and civilians to expand and solidify their power. We must stop talking about the two state solution policy because it is a delusion and lip service from all politicians. In fact, Jared Kushner is preparing a coalition with other hedge funds ready to come in Gaza and possibly West Bank to clean out the destruction and build a mega high end resort with ocean view to boot. He is a Jewish real estate developer who does not invest in any losing $$$ land deal.
It isn’t a “conflict” and it isn’t “incredibly divisive”, it’s a genocide that has the whole world united in condemning it except for zionists and their apologists.
Words matter, framing matters, being neutral is to be on the side of the aggressor.
We’re coming up to 1 year (+76) of genocide and it’s high time you choose how to talk about it.
The fact that you still choose to feign neutrality is embarrassing.
This^^. Poor show Ben.
Hamas is the equivalent of ISIS, Al Queda or the Nazis. There is no negotiation with an extremist murderous group of that nature. The only way to deal with these times of groups is to liquidate them by any and all means necessary. I personally think Israel isn’t acting harsh enough and should have put a total siege on Gaza (cut off telecommunications, food, water, electricity, gas) until Hamas unconditionally surrenders. Millions of civilians were...
Hamas is the equivalent of ISIS, Al Queda or the Nazis. There is no negotiation with an extremist murderous group of that nature. The only way to deal with these times of groups is to liquidate them by any and all means necessary. I personally think Israel isn’t acting harsh enough and should have put a total siege on Gaza (cut off telecommunications, food, water, electricity, gas) until Hamas unconditionally surrenders. Millions of civilians were incinerated but the USA did what it had to do to force the Nazis and imperial Japanese to unconditionally surrender. Israel will continue the war in Gaza until Hamas capitulates one way or another and it doesn’t matter how many “civilians” die during the process.
@Ben there you go, read Joseph’s response and understand it isn’t an extremist view, that’s what mainstream Zionism is and that’s what you choose to be neutral to.
Don’t believe me? Refer to the two nice Jewish boys podcast and read the polls they site.
@Sisyphus: The fact that you refuse to acknowledge any wrongdoing on the part of Hamas is what's embarrassing. It takes 2 to tango; Hamas could surrender tomorrow and this war would end immediately. The US killed a half million Japanese civilians because Japan refused to surrender. Do you consider that a genocide too? If not, what is the differentiating factor?
Pretty sure the US did not occupy or control Japanese movement and freedom for the 75 years prior to WWII. Nor did the US establish a colony in Japanese lands with an ethnic criteria for who would be welcome, and who would not.
@Watson using war crimes to justify war crimes is the most Zionist thing one can do, you guys are so bad at this it’s not even funny.
@Sisyphus Nowhere did I say any of that. I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Not surprising given that you get all your news from TikTok.
@ET. First off, thank you for actually addressing the question, unlike Sisyphus who only knows how to shout propaganda slogans. Israel did not establish a colony in Palestinian lands. It was established by the UN. Whether or not that was just is not Israel's fault. They were given...
@Sisyphus Nowhere did I say any of that. I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Not surprising given that you get all your news from TikTok.
@ET. First off, thank you for actually addressing the question, unlike Sisyphus who only knows how to shout propaganda slogans. Israel did not establish a colony in Palestinian lands. It was established by the UN. Whether or not that was just is not Israel's fault. They were given a home by the world and they accepted it. There are 700k Israeli Palestinians who are very much welcome there.
The blockade of Gaza didn't begin until after Hamas seized controlled of the strip and openly avowed to destroy Israel by any means necessary. Yes, land grabbing in the West Bank is illegal, but that does not somehow convert a legitimate war into an "attempt to destroy an entire people".
" Yes, land grabbing in the West Bank is illegal, but that does not somehow convert a legitimate war into an "attempt to destroy an entire people".
I think you just alienated all of OMATT's Polish readers.
Can I remind you of the NAZI "land grab" that initiated WWII ? Called the invasion of Poland. Certainly DID convert "a legitimate (under the then German government inspired Government policy) war into an "attempt to destroy an entire people".
That is such a stretch it barely warrants a response. But I'll indulge you anyway.
Israel is grabbing empty land in the West Bank (which is still illegal). Nazi Germany invaded Poland unprovoked and put its people into ghettos and concentration camps with the express purpose of extermination. The two are not even remotely similar.
"Israel is grabbing *Empty* land in the West Bank?"
Surely, you have to be joking, bud ! That's the REAL stretch.
OR don't those Palestinian families being herded - hither and yon - into allegedly "safe settlements" matter to you? Do you just think of them as "collateral damage?"
Glad I don't live in "your world" - and I don't say that lightly.
What a nation of crybabies. The map didn’t even recognize Palestine as a state, rather acknowledged the existence of factual places known as “Palestinian territories”. As another commenter said, how are you supposed to show that geographic separation when the words “Palestinian territories” are so much longer than “Israel”. Israelis seem to be constantly on the lookout for ways to make themselves victims
The only name that should belong on that map is PALESTINE
No nation called “Palestine” has ever existed.
One way ticket to The Hague for you, Elad.
Trust JetBlue, one of the worst managed airlines in the world, to cave into the Zionist brigade, one of the world’s worst and most extreme ideologies. Bigots stick together.
Said the person who supports Nazi islamist terroists. But having a Jewish state to stay away from people like you is apparently "one the world worst and extreme ideologies".
Absolutely it is an extreme ideology, because it involves the displacement and erasure of an entire people.
Ok Ben Gvir
The fact that you immediately associate anyone who merely supports Israel's existence with supporting Ben gvir is all I need to know really. Propaganda at its finest.
Says the person who referred to me as someone who supports “Nazi Islamist terrorists” for being against genocide. A phrase that doesn’t even make sense.
Get in the bin Adam. Or better yet, to The Hague.
And there you are ignoring the substance of the comment, that zionism involves the displacement and forceful seizure of land of the indigenous Palestinians
Interesting.. conflating your society's anti sematic past with a different culture's religion. Have some respect... Get out in the world.. get out from under your rock.. and at least try and hide your genocidal tendencies better.
MK, Ben, BZ, BX: +100000000 aura. Thank you
You are welcome ET. I am done with the voices that are pro genoc*de and feign neutrality in support of genoc*de. Enough is enough!
BZ MK ET BX - this reeks of botting.
Make an account and prove me wrong.
I can’t remember when I noticed that map on a flight, but it was not recently. I told the people I was with how upsetting it was. It’s unfortunately been there for a while.
I’m confused how the map vendor was expected to square the fact that “Palestinian territories” has almost triple the number of characters as “Israel”? Maybe if Israel would stop trying to stymie efforts at Palestinian statehood in the first place they could’ve just said “Palestine!”.
In fact, Israel has come to the table dozens of times over the past few decades, including with deals that would create a Palestinian state based on 1967 lines. Palestinian leadership has rejected every deal.
All of Israel's offers have been terrible and were specifically designed as such that any person of sound mind would reject the deal - even Israeli negotiators said they themselves would have rejected the deal if they were on the other side of the table. Even the most generous Israeli offer wouldn't allow a Palestinian state to have an airport, control the resources off the coast of Gaza, or operate the port at Gaza independently....
All of Israel's offers have been terrible and were specifically designed as such that any person of sound mind would reject the deal - even Israeli negotiators said they themselves would have rejected the deal if they were on the other side of the table. Even the most generous Israeli offer wouldn't allow a Palestinian state to have an airport, control the resources off the coast of Gaza, or operate the port at Gaza independently. A state that cannot control the movement of people and goods into its territory doesn't sound like an independent state to me.
All of this is moot because Israel is never going to give up its settlements policy in the WB - not when you have scores and scores of young families moving there from Tel Aviv/Jerusalem for a cheaper COL.
@Matt. The offer from Rabin that Arafat rejected was a good deal. Rabin was assassinated for it. Arafat chickened out to save his own hide from the extremists on his side.
That's absolute bs lol. They have done everything to ensure there is never a Palestinian state, while creating illegal settlements to annex any territories not fully their's already. All the discussions and accords were just choreography to distract and now they don't feel they need to do that anymore.
@vlcnc: Between Oslo and Camp David, Palestine was offered everything they wanted except hereditary "right of return", which has always been a nonstarter. (You cannot just move 5 million Palestinians back into Israel without destroying the Jewish state. It would just reverse the roles of the two parties and we'd be in for another century of violence.)
Arafat said no, extreme Islamist groups engaged in terrorist acts, and Israel elected their farthest right government in...
@vlcnc: Between Oslo and Camp David, Palestine was offered everything they wanted except hereditary "right of return", which has always been a nonstarter. (You cannot just move 5 million Palestinians back into Israel without destroying the Jewish state. It would just reverse the roles of the two parties and we'd be in for another century of violence.)
Arafat said no, extreme Islamist groups engaged in terrorist acts, and Israel elected their farthest right government in history. When Netanyahu is gone, and the political pendulum swings back left, there will be another offer.
Do any of you in the anti-Israel crowd even support a two-state solution? I've yet to see even a single commenter acknowledge Israel's right to exist.
Next... FYI, old Zionist talking points are Paśse, everyone sees Israel for what it is.
"Israel has come to the table dozens of times over the past few decades"
So in other words, you have no idea what a Left-handed Turn Down is?
Given the geographic separation of Palestinian territories and the length of the name, I'm willing to give the map vendor the benefit of the doubt that this was a simple auto-alignment error. If that's the explanation they're providing, of course.
This is the way.
Ironically, the best answer gets no response.
Workers are always gonna woke.
HR-HCM Training
Based inflight map vendor. L JetBlue.
Do you think there should be an independent state of Palestine alongside the Jewish state of Israel, or that Israel should cease to exist and be replaced by a state or Palestine? Please clarify your "based" position.
Curious as to who their current vendor is and who did they switch to. Plenty of better ones out there.
I bet at least half of the people who end up commenting on this post will take the map provider's side. Especially Julia, who is a seething bigot.
yes a lot of antisemites are regulars on bens israel related news.
While I may not always agree with Tim Dunn's opinions, but between the anti-Israel and sometimes anti-semitic comments & the odd and borderline obsessional and sometimes cyber-bullying replies to *real* Tim Dunn and the fake Tim Dunn troll accounts, there really ought to be better moderation of the comments on this website.
Also, I've noticed my comments that are responses to route changes or new J/ F class products or flight/ hotel reviews often...
While I may not always agree with Tim Dunn's opinions, but between the anti-Israel and sometimes anti-semitic comments & the odd and borderline obsessional and sometimes cyber-bullying replies to *real* Tim Dunn and the fake Tim Dunn troll accounts, there really ought to be better moderation of the comments on this website.
Also, I've noticed my comments that are responses to route changes or new J/ F class products or flight/ hotel reviews often that take some time to be approved and posted when I check back on OMAAT a few hours after yet these problematic comments seem to be nearly automatically approved.
Really disappointed in how OMAAT has evolved overtime... Let's see how long my response takes to be posted/ approved.
If being anti-genocide is the same to you as being antisemitic then you need to reassess your “Semitic” identity, being Semitic and being genocidal aren’t the same.
@Sisyphus - If your were anti genocide, you would support Israeli army that is working hard on removing Hamas (you know, the organisation which openly includes genocide in their manifesto) from the power.
@Samo one side has it in their charter, the other side is actually doing it and we’re seeing it with our own eyes.
I know which side I’m on thank you very much.
@Sisyphus - Israel is not doing it, Hamas is attempting it and Israel stops them.
"one side has it in their charter, the other side is actually doing it and we’re seeing it with our own eyes."
THISSSSS!
What's antisemitic about recognizing Palestinians, or their plight, which derives from Israel's creation and it's policies of ethnic preference ?
@Etphonehome nothing is, they scream antisemitism at every opportunity thinking it would shut down the conversation, the world has woken up to their tactics and no amount of intimidation will stop us from speaking the truth.
Fighting for freedom isn’t antisemitic, it’s anti-Zionist and I’ll proudly fight Zionism until Palestine is free!