If you’re traveling through Minneapolis-Saint Paul International Airport (MSP), don’t be surprised if you’re subjected to a new kind of document check…
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ICE will be patrolling MSP Airport for the next three weeks
FOX 9 MSP reports that United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents will be expanding their presence at MSP Airport over the next three weeks, further escalating the tensions we’re seeing in Minnesota at the moment.
ICE is expected to start checking the documents of travelers and workers at MSP, including in the terminal and on jet bridges. This is all according to a document that was shared by an airport worker. The airport hasn’t publicly confirmed this, stating only that federal rules give ICE agents “broad access” to airport property.
US citizens aren’t required to show identification to ICE agents, but of course we’ve seen US citizens detained by ICE over time, so that’s not exactly foolproof. Furthermore, green card holders are required to have ID on them at all times.
Keep in mind that in order to get airside at an airport, passengers need to present a passport or REAL ID, which is intended to prove citizenship (not that it’s the primary intent for an airport security check, but…).
This represents an escalation of previous ICE tactics
As mentioned above, ICE agents have broad authority when it comes to accessing airports. For example, recently I covered how the TSA is sharing passenger lists with ICE, with the intent of facilitating deportation arrests.
However, it sounds like the operation at MSP will be much more involved, with ICE checking travel documents more broadly, rather than with a target on a specific person.
We’ve certainly seen United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP) offices on jet bridges of arriving and departing international flights, but that’s very different, since it’s typically based on specific information, and is also limited to international flights, where they specifically have authority. So to see this impacting employees and domestic travelers represents a new level of surveillance.
This is all pretty unprecedented, not that we should be surprised…
Bottom line
As if tensions weren’t high enough in Minnesota as it is, ICE will now reportedly patrol MSP Airport, including jet bridges, to request IDs from passengers and employees. US citizens aren’t required to show ID to ICE agents, but that’s not to say that they couldn’t try to escalate things.
Here's the situation... U.S. Customs and Border Protection primarily handles International Flights. If ICE does end up on the news and an International Airline or any Delta Flight coming from an International Destination outside of the United States (i.e. Copenhagen, Amsterdam, London-Heathrow), then this could be very limited for them. ICE also needs Airport Credentials (SIDA Badges), which may or may not be issued by DHS and the airport. If escalation does occur and the...
Here's the situation... U.S. Customs and Border Protection primarily handles International Flights. If ICE does end up on the news and an International Airline or any Delta Flight coming from an International Destination outside of the United States (i.e. Copenhagen, Amsterdam, London-Heathrow), then this could be very limited for them. ICE also needs Airport Credentials (SIDA Badges), which may or may not be issued by DHS and the airport. If escalation does occur and the passengers are not willing to return to the United States because of this, something could go wrong. I'm all for a Secure Border, but I am very concerned with the way this is being handled. I fear that an airline (Air France, Air Canada, or KLM) could decide to publicly call for accountability.
Who gives a flying f*** tbh? The world isn't only the f***ing USA you know.
Y'all should try flying in and out of Algiers where multiple checks and stuff like this are basically a part of life.
@disgruntled. First, this is a story about the US because there are many people who travel to/from/within the US. Second, I don't know the laws in Algiers. But this is clearly an illegal search based on the US Constitution. 100% newsworthy.
look at all these Nazis who believe in open borders and no security checks for illegals.
I am so impressed that there are commentors on here that do not have TDS.. Amazing there is hope out there...otherwise these blog readers seem to be on the side of the illegal criminals...
So are you an “illegal criminal” until Trump pardons you and then you become a “legal criminal’? Is that how it works now?
"Immigration officials say a Real ID does not prove legal status"
https://www.inforum.com/news/minnesota/immigration-officials-say-a-real-id-does-not-prove-legal-status
"US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/24/us-citizen-detained-ice-real-id
"ICE Says U.S. Citizen’s Birth Certificate Is Fake After Arresting Her: Attorneys"
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-citizen-arrested-by-ice_n_693c9355e4b018dc36f254c0
"ICE agents detain Navajo man in Arizona, ignoring US, tribal IDs"
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2026/01/16/ice-detained-navajo-man-peoria-arizona/88171195007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z11xx65p118950c118950d00----v11xx65d--52--b--52--&gca-ft=215&gca-ds=sophi
"What you should show to prove your US citizenship to an ICE agent"
https://wtop.com/local/2026/01/im-getting-a-lot-of-inquiries-about-this-immigration-attorney-on-proving-your-citizenship/
"Immigration officials say a Real ID does not prove legal status"
https://www.inforum.com/news/minnesota/immigration-officials-say-a-real-id-does-not-prove-legal-status
"US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/24/us-citizen-detained-ice-real-id
"ICE Says U.S. Citizen’s Birth Certificate Is Fake After Arresting Her: Attorneys"
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-citizen-arrested-by-ice_n_693c9355e4b018dc36f254c0
"ICE agents detain Navajo man in Arizona, ignoring US, tribal IDs"
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2026/01/16/ice-detained-navajo-man-peoria-arizona/88171195007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z11xx65p118950c118950d00----v11xx65d--52--b--52--&gca-ft=215&gca-ds=sophi
"What you should show to prove your US citizenship to an ICE agent"
https://wtop.com/local/2026/01/im-getting-a-lot-of-inquiries-about-this-immigration-attorney-on-proving-your-citizenship/
Here's some further analysis of the legal issues, including the authority of the airport:
https://papersplease.org/wp/2026/01/16/ice-plans-immigration-checkpoints-at-domestic-airports/
Note that MSP is *not* within 100 miles of any U.S. border. Note also that MSP is publicly owned and operated. The next meeting of the Metropolitan Air[ports Commission is scheduled for this coming Tuesday, January 20, 2026, at 1 p.m. in Room LT-3048A, Terminal 1, MSP Airport.
ICE has been turned into a personal gestapo for Trump's retribution campaign. He has stated that publicly.
ICE agent ranks are also Proud Boys and white supremacists. Also been confirmed through leaked but verified lists.
We are in an authoritarian regime RIGHT NOW.
It is understood that the undocumented U.S. resident immigrants are now fearful of flying domestically. The UK and EU should also adopt this U.S. stance.
Good to be reminded that there are shitheads in every country. Run off with Tommy Robinson why don't you? Find a cottage built for two and spare us your vile utterances.
Can an American explain to me how the "American's don't have to show identification" thing work? If an ICE officer comes up to you and asks you to show identification, then you say "I'm an American, I don't have to. Do you have probable cause?", then the ICE officer goes "I don't believe you are an American, prove it", wouldn't you basically be forced to show your passport?
No. You can always refuse. They must have probable cause to detain you. And, strangely, they "will" have probable cause after they haul you away. Obviously, if you say no, they may just say "never mind."
The simple reality, David, is that there are people that desperately want to paint the US as a police state that is preying on its citizens.
US citizens can and do commit crime including, related to these anti-ICE protests - for impeding law enforcement as well as other crimes including supporting or being involved in transnational criminal activity.
Law abiding legally present citizens and residents do not have any reason to fear in the US...
The simple reality, David, is that there are people that desperately want to paint the US as a police state that is preying on its citizens.
US citizens can and do commit crime including, related to these anti-ICE protests - for impeding law enforcement as well as other crimes including supporting or being involved in transnational criminal activity.
Law abiding legally present citizens and residents do not have any reason to fear in the US any more than they do in any other western democracy.
I certainly don't live in fear of arrest or detention in MN or anywhere else. and, yes, I always carry ID including multiple forms of federally approved government IDs with my Real ID driver's license the most accessible.
"Law abiding legally present citizens and residents do not have any reason to fear in the US any more than they do in any other western democracy."
You aren't paying one ounce of attention to what is actually happening.
I’m a US citizen who was born here and ICE should have no jurisdiction over me. ICE’s job should be limited to facilitating the removal and deportation of those who are subject to deportation orders and that’s it. If we really wanted to deal with illegal immigration in this country, we wouldn’t give it to a barely-vetted and untrained federal paramilitary force that only answers to the White House, we would spend it on beefing...
I’m a US citizen who was born here and ICE should have no jurisdiction over me. ICE’s job should be limited to facilitating the removal and deportation of those who are subject to deportation orders and that’s it. If we really wanted to deal with illegal immigration in this country, we wouldn’t give it to a barely-vetted and untrained federal paramilitary force that only answers to the White House, we would spend it on beefing up Border Patrol and hiring hundreds more immigration judges and asylum officers.
@David
We don't have to prove citizenship to ICE. ICE does not have the power to stop or check someone unless they have reasonable suspicion that you either are here illegally or are harboring someone here illegally. Their law enforcement powers, until Trump turned them into his private army and Repubs (and Kavanaugh) let him do it, were strictly limited to enforcing immigration law, and simply looking hispanic or speaking spanish does not constitute...
@David
We don't have to prove citizenship to ICE. ICE does not have the power to stop or check someone unless they have reasonable suspicion that you either are here illegally or are harboring someone here illegally. Their law enforcement powers, until Trump turned them into his private army and Repubs (and Kavanaugh) let him do it, were strictly limited to enforcing immigration law, and simply looking hispanic or speaking spanish does not constitute reasonable suspicion. Now ICE is just Miller's brownshirts meant to give Trump an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act. Something that's been Stephen Miller's dream this whole past year.
and yet Chuck and Dusty,
you simply distort the truth because those facts are not convenient to you.
ICE is simply not randomly stopping thousands of law-abiding, documented people in the US. They are STOPPING people that have been suspected of crime - and that is what law enforcement ALWAYS does. even w/ traffic stops.
Even if it is true that you don't have to talk to ICE or other law enforcement, the vast...
and yet Chuck and Dusty,
you simply distort the truth because those facts are not convenient to you.
ICE is simply not randomly stopping thousands of law-abiding, documented people in the US. They are STOPPING people that have been suspected of crime - and that is what law enforcement ALWAYS does. even w/ traffic stops.
Even if it is true that you don't have to talk to ICE or other law enforcement, the vast majority of Americans understand that it is far less risky and will create far less difficulty to just show them your ID, answer their questions and then go on w/ your business.
It is precisely this type of confrontational attitude that is creating mayhem - and it is costing people (or at least one woman) their lives because they are sucked into a battle which they can't win.
Even Minneapolis mayor Frey is now telling his residents to tone it down because they can't win.
Just let ICE do what it needs to do and they will leave just like they have from other cities.
How many more people need to be killed before you realize that your confrontational approach isn't working and even elected leaders in MN realize it.
Honestly, Tim, on what planet do you reside? ICE **IS** randomly stopping, harassing, pushing to the ground, etc. LOTS of people who are breaking no laws. Do you not have access to a television or multiple, independent news sources? I've got to believe that you are smarter than the picture being painted by the words you keep typing.
Well said, Chuck, Kevin, Dusty, and even This comes to mind. Thank you for keeping it real on here.
Tim Dunn and his MAGA ilk love to accuse others of the things they do - for instance, "distort the truth because those facts are not convenient to you"
You do it all the time, Timmy
@Tim
>It is precisely this type of confrontational attitude that is creating mayhem
But God forbid we blame the administration that hired unqualified people, didn't train them, and then gave them a monetary incentive to detain people regardless of whether they actually had reasonable suspicion of an immigration violation or whether they had documentation on them right? You credulous moron.
They aren’t going to leave Minneapolis or any other blue cities until after the midterms. Trump is getting them in place so he can use them to intimidate and stop people from voting in areas that won’t vote red.
There is no law requiring US citizens to carry identification while going about our day (there are of course requirements if one is operating a motor vehicle).
We also have the right to refuse to answer someone if they demand it without probable cause.
If they choose to detain us, we have the right to remain silent and the right to an attorney.
These are all rights afforded to us under the...
There is no law requiring US citizens to carry identification while going about our day (there are of course requirements if one is operating a motor vehicle).
We also have the right to refuse to answer someone if they demand it without probable cause.
If they choose to detain us, we have the right to remain silent and the right to an attorney.
These are all rights afforded to us under the U.S. Constitution. I know that’s an obvious point. What often gets lost in these conversations is that COTUS is a whole document; it’s not a buffet one can pick and choose from, nor is it selectively applied. That means it applies equally to everyone from someone like Renee Good to the abject lickspittles in this comment thread. That’s not gonna change no matter how many Truth social posts these people cook their brains with.
Specific to this post: ICE staging in an airport is pointless for two main reasons: first, PRE-security, terminals generally considered public spaces. People (including law enforcement) are free to enter and exit them the same as any other public space. There is no requirement to carry ID, nor is there a requirement to provide it if asked.
Post security, everyone has already provided ID and been vetted— including domestic arrivals. You can’t access those spaces without doing so. So any agents in a secure part of an airport are really just there for show and to try and send a message.
Thank you for all the helpful comments.
Ben throws bait and seemingly everyone (except the sensible ones who know his game) goes bite bite bite...Meanwhile he fills his pockets because...ragebait = clickbait = $$$$
It would help Ben if freeloaders actually use his credit card links. He makes more money that way than relying on clickbait.
I will not try to express my opinions in the space I have here. Simply, I support enforcing our immigration laws, which includes detaining and deporting those who are here without a legal right to be here. Balance is extremely important; you don't create a task force for a tourist who is 4 days over. But, never, never should citizens or legal residents have to endure a "let me see your papers" moment inside the...
I will not try to express my opinions in the space I have here. Simply, I support enforcing our immigration laws, which includes detaining and deporting those who are here without a legal right to be here. Balance is extremely important; you don't create a task force for a tourist who is 4 days over. But, never, never should citizens or legal residents have to endure a "let me see your papers" moment inside the borders.
My general thought is that if I was at MSP, I'd already showed my ID to the airline and TSA. Why not ICE? It is the easy solution. But, I'd really want to say "he'll no." I wonder if I have the guts. (BTW, as an old, blond, WASPy-looking male, I'm unlikely to be targeted by ICE. That's no excuse to let others be targeted by appearance.)
Fairly ‘based’ take, sir. Fortunately for you, they aren’t doing this at CMH… yet.
So now unfortunate Somalians and Mexicans cannot even escape by plane ? What’s next, bus station checks and highway checkpoints? USBP used to do it in SD back in the days.
Soon we will need a visa to go through MSP
nope....
we can get this to 200 before Ben goes to bed.
Tim, ever wonder how you became one of the more unlikable people on the internet? I know you probably don't care, but you seem like quite the sad person who has a meaningless life...must suck.
because I want Ben to win?
the only person that sucks is the one that is sucked in by such an innocuous comment.
that would be you
Yes, a visa for Somalia
That was quite likely before ICE arrived.
I heard this about 5 days ago on local Minneapolis Fox News Ch 9 alerting all the illegals too this , I couldn’t believe my ears that a local news station is protecting the criminals !
COMEDY CENTRAL- Released today. Nearly HALF of the MAGA ts hired for the Nazi campaign( see Joe Rogan) failed an OPEN BOOK test for the written part of their hiring.
Add in, numerous felony convictions, failed drug tests & inability to pass remedial reading exams
So what we have is a buncha high illiterate criminals trying to read docs but need somebody to help them with it
This should be fun
I am an 72 woman who will be traveling through MSP in a week. I am going to be watching ICE as I try to escape the stress of them in the Metro Area. I have my drivers license upgraded as needed. Do I still bring my passport in case this little old white haired senior gets taken for some bad ass South American? Do I just comply and smile? You bet I will! I...
I am an 72 woman who will be traveling through MSP in a week. I am going to be watching ICE as I try to escape the stress of them in the Metro Area. I have my drivers license upgraded as needed. Do I still bring my passport in case this little old white haired senior gets taken for some bad ass South American? Do I just comply and smile? You bet I will! I have a trip to go on in South Carolina!!! I’m not in interested giving up my freedom because I could be a domestic terriorest in the eyes of ICE!
carry your u s passport for safety purposes to avoid problems
Ms. McKay,
you DO NOT need to carry your passport anywhere in the US as a US citizen.
your state issued driver's license is sufficient, esp. if it is a Real ID.
Not according to ICE, Timothy
Makes me want to fly in and out of MSP just so I can tell ICE to F*** off!
Interstate travel is protected in the US Constitution as is the First Amendment… seems like a fine idea. Safe travels, sir!
If you are breaking the law or entering our beloved country illegally, then you should be locked up, or at least deported! If I were doing so in another country, I would expect the same to happen to me, if not worse!!
Hopefully it will.
The officer did nothing wrong……..It was a Good shooting.
Well, it was certainly a good shot; I'm not sure it was a good shooting. Even if the office felt threatened, that *might* explain the first shot...but not the second nor the third... OTOH, no one ran him over and the only reason to feel threatened from a woman who repeatedly says, "I'm not mad at you," is that you KNOW what you are doing is wrong...
It will be a good shooting when he gets final due process....if he ever sticks his head out from hiding. Jus' sayin'
Yeah what Noem is putting out almost a week later, the shooter has internal bleeding ( bruising). Yes bruising is exactly what to be expected after firing an weapon three times into somebody. Enough of the lies, coverup and ancillary bull crap.
Maryland, did you see that Ross was lifting boxes, moving within 36 hours of the murder? Also, 2nd in command at ICE is 28, leaving the Dept. to run for Congress… *facepalm*
Cover-ups are the business of what has been evolving and while l may have symptoms of the flu, it hasn't made me a blind fool to ignore the stupidity and injustice. In fact I am angry knowing full well this virus of abuse is spreading more quickly than any medical intervention could cure ( insert sad face emoji)
"bruising is exactly what to be expected after firing an weapon three times into somebody"
You have zero experience with firearms...clearly.
perhaps a couple weeks too late? and after telling the feds to get the F out of our city.
"I’m calling for peace," Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey told reporters. "Everybody has a role in achieving that peace, and we’re going to try and do everything we can to keep it."
anyone that wonders why this is so much worse than under previous administrations need only look at the tone their most closely elected leaders are...
perhaps a couple weeks too late? and after telling the feds to get the F out of our city.
"I’m calling for peace," Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey told reporters. "Everybody has a role in achieving that peace, and we’re going to try and do everything we can to keep it."
anyone that wonders why this is so much worse than under previous administrations need only look at the tone their most closely elected leaders are setting - and then realizing why it has all gone so wrong.
@Tim Dunn
>anyone that wonders why this is so much worse than under previous administrations need only look at the tone their most closely elected leaders are setting - and then realizing why it has all gone so wrong.
Follow your own advice and stop cheerleading for a narcissistic manbaby that's more preoccupied with the marble for his ballroom than his actual responsibilities as President.
Thank you, again, Dusty. Well said.
I'm still quite surprised how Tim is not at all concerned about how this will inevitably negatively impacting his beloved Delta Air Lines, and their hub at MSP. Like, we finally found an issue that he's more passionate about; I just didn't think it would be MAGA... *sigh*
Dusty,
people "on the other side" have admitted that two blue administrations deported far more people than this one has (or likely will) and yet they say they object to the violence that is going on but then can't see that a host of local leaders have created this type of confrontational attitude that just doesn't and hasn't existed about any other government function.
Frey is right. This is not sustainable. Minneapolis was beyond...
Dusty,
people "on the other side" have admitted that two blue administrations deported far more people than this one has (or likely will) and yet they say they object to the violence that is going on but then can't see that a host of local leaders have created this type of confrontational attitude that just doesn't and hasn't existed about any other government function.
Frey is right. This is not sustainable. Minneapolis was beyond foolish to think they would win. and he got his own residents (at least one) so worked up that some of them did downright stupid things that cost them their lives.
Is there not just a tad of gray matter that is exercised BEFORE launching into these tirades that ALWAYS end up with the bigger guy winning?
Take the feds to court, fund lawyers that will back people that are swept up in this stuff...
but the vast majority of us that ARE IN THE MIDDLE are not the least bit surprised that what was routine under previous administrations is becoming high drama and life and death because a handful of people - some of whom were elected to lead - are inciting their own residents to do downright stupid things.
@Tim Dunn
The difference you're desperate to ignore is that Obama and Biden deported more people WITHOUT blatantly breaking the law, WITHOUT dropping ICE's hiring and training standards into the gutter, and WITHOUT sending ICE to harass random people for the "crime" of being hispanic in the USA. Local leaders didn't create this confrontation. Trump and the GOP did. Trump and the GOP aren't enforcing laws. They're sending literal thugs with minimal training and...
@Tim Dunn
The difference you're desperate to ignore is that Obama and Biden deported more people WITHOUT blatantly breaking the law, WITHOUT dropping ICE's hiring and training standards into the gutter, and WITHOUT sending ICE to harass random people for the "crime" of being hispanic in the USA. Local leaders didn't create this confrontation. Trump and the GOP did. Trump and the GOP aren't enforcing laws. They're sending literal thugs with minimal training and a financial incentive to pick up as many hispanics as possible into "blue" cities to CAUSE confrontation.
And while you're acting all high and mighty saying these people should just comply, ICE is literally disappearing people. ICE is refusing sitting Congresspeople from exercising their powers of oversight when they visit ICE's detention centers. ICE is refusing detainees counsel, refusing detainees phone calls, and refusing detainees medical care. We have multiple examples of Trump's admin illegally deporting US citizens to foreign countries, and renditioning people into FOREIGN PRISONS when those people have no criminal convictions. For fuck's sake man, during the whole CECOT fiasco ICE was shuttling people around the country to try and play jurisdiction games with the courts when families were trying to figure out where their loved ones even were. Are you truly such a despicable soul that that sits fine with you morally? Are you so lacking in principles that when a right-wing administration blatantly violates the spirit and letter of the law, that that's fine with you?
Dusty
I have both eyes wide open - but you seem completely incapable of accepting that law enforcement is never clean - under any administration.
To selectively think that this all started under this president is ignorance at its finest.
and where were you fears of disappearing people when unaccompanied children were allowed into the US at the border, many of which have still not been found.
open your eyes TO BOTH SIDES - not your selective rage.
@Timmy
"Law enforcement is never clean"
Is Ed Bastian and Trump clean.
You seem to lick their ass so much it has to be shining clean.
@Tim Dunn
Law enforcement is never clean? That's how you're going to sanewash this? Why is it that you people supposedly want laws enforced but DON'T want police punished when they break the law?
Renee Good was murdered. You can justify the first shot Rossman fired. You CANNOT justify the second and third that he fired FROM BESIDE THE CAR THROUGH HER OPEN SIDE WINDOW. He was no longer in danger. Those two...
@Tim Dunn
Law enforcement is never clean? That's how you're going to sanewash this? Why is it that you people supposedly want laws enforced but DON'T want police punished when they break the law?
Renee Good was murdered. You can justify the first shot Rossman fired. You CANNOT justify the second and third that he fired FROM BESIDE THE CAR THROUGH HER OPEN SIDE WINDOW. He was no longer in danger. Those two shots are indefensible under the law, and if this man actually went to trial he'd be convicted faster than Chauvin.
Renee Good would not be dead if Trump hadn't dropped ICE hiring standards into the gutter and then sent those idiots into Minneapolis for the sole purpose of starting shit.
Renee Good would not be dead if Rossman had followed DHS policy AND NOT PLACED HIMSELF IN A POSITION WHERE HE COULD BE RUN OVER.
By the way Timmy, any thoughts about Trump shelving the Missouri welfare fraud investigations? You know the one where Brett Farve got $77m that was supposed to go to needy families instead? There was a lot more to it than just Brett Farve. Where's the right-wing outrage? Or does it only matter to Repugnants when it happens in a blue state? I guess if right-wingers do it, they get elected governor or senator instead, see Rick Scott.
"Renee Good would not be dead if Trump hadn't dropped ICE hiring standards into the gutter and then sent those idiots into Minneapolis for the sole purpose of starting ..."
Jonathan Ross has been with ICE for over 10 years and was with CBP for several years before. How would recent changes to hiring standards play a role in this case for someone who was hired before the Trump administration took office?
exactly - Frey et al are far too conciliatory, which as neville chamberlain learned, only encourages the nazis
Frey shucks and jives like the minstrel he is.
There'd be a Somali mayor right now but for a rare isntance of DNC policing a primary election and uncovering hamfisted mass ethnic fraud
There you go again. Dude you are too stupid to make any sense of any damn subject. Please for your sake, don’t attempt to use your brain, you don’t have any.
Dear Tim,
Go f u c k yourself
Sincerely,
The Whole OMAAT reader base
no, only the ones that can't stand the truth.
"Law abiding legally present citizens and residents do not have any reason to fear in the US any more than they do in any other western democracy."
You don't have a single clue about what the truth actually is. But this is a free country and free blog space, so feel free to post your drivel about the world as you erroneously think it is. You're deceiving yourself and no one else.
It’s so much worse because we have never had a President who refers to the half of this country that disagrees with him as enemies of the state and domestic terrorists. Mayor Frey is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing. Standing up for his constituents (notice how he doesn’t vilify anyone living in Minneapolis regardless of their politics) and pushing back against the invading force that’s terrorizing them for political theater.
I guess it's easier for white trash MAGAts to scapegoat foreigners then it is for them to deal with the fact that they are poor, fat and stupid in the wealthiest country in the history of humanity.
Speaking of wealthiest country, it's just insane to me that nurses are on strike right now in NY because they can't get healthcare. The fact that they risk their own health for the sake of another and they have to beg for healthcare is just nuts.
That's true, Mike O., it really is sad; more power to those nurses and their union for trying to get better for themselves and all workers. We really should have a baseline safety net of universal healthcare in the US. No, it'll never be perfect, but it's better than what we have.
Please deal with facts!
1, The nurses do get healthcare.
2, The pay is quite high with very flexible shift designs.
One of the biggest demands is related to job security in the event a nurse is found to be drunk or on drugs during work hours. This detail tells me all I need to know.
Nurses in NY are striking primarily over stalled contract negotiations, demanding better safe staffing ratios to improve patient care, stronger protections against workplace violence, and continued affordable healthcare benefits. So while they do get healthcare, it's too expensive.
Another thing that's insane is politicians have no problem sending troops into war. When they return home with physical and psychological trauma even some with missing limbs, they're given the finger and they need to fend for...
Nurses in NY are striking primarily over stalled contract negotiations, demanding better safe staffing ratios to improve patient care, stronger protections against workplace violence, and continued affordable healthcare benefits. So while they do get healthcare, it's too expensive.
Another thing that's insane is politicians have no problem sending troops into war. When they return home with physical and psychological trauma even some with missing limbs, they're given the finger and they need to fend for themselves without the proper resources for a smooth transition back to civilian life. No wonder military suicide is high.
Well done, dude
Even by the low standards of 21st century internet, this comment section is specularly retarded shit
I love that all the conservatives are going along with this. Nevermind that it's a total waste of government money because everybody in the sterile section has already had their ID checked by TSA. Nevermind that ICE is literally acting like jackboot thugs on the streets grabbing random people with only their race or spoken language as "reasonable suspicion" that they're here illegally. There's no targeted immigration enforcement. These people don't know what they're doing....
I love that all the conservatives are going along with this. Nevermind that it's a total waste of government money because everybody in the sterile section has already had their ID checked by TSA. Nevermind that ICE is literally acting like jackboot thugs on the streets grabbing random people with only their race or spoken language as "reasonable suspicion" that they're here illegally. There's no targeted immigration enforcement. These people don't know what they're doing. They're the lowest common denominator of RWNJs and they were given guns and told to harass people.
There's no justification for any of this bullcrap. Freaking Obama deported more people than Trump, and so did Biden. Both of them did it without murdering mothers or teargassing protestors. You people should be ashamed of yourselves for voting this back in. You have no morals, you have no ethics, you have no principles. All you care about is what Trump tells you to.
Even Bush was more compassionate.
I'll even throw in Clinton and Reagan.
How's that?!
bush junior was a war criminal since he wages an
illegal and unlawful war with iraq despite refusal of
unied national secretary general and others to give
permission to attack iraq mainly to take control of
iraq oil resources he acted on the advice of british intelligence
to former prime minister Tony Blair mr bush failed to
verify thru u s intellitence whether iraq had stocks of
weapons...
bush junior was a war criminal since he wages an
illegal and unlawful war with iraq despite refusal of
unied national secretary general and others to give
permission to attack iraq mainly to take control of
iraq oil resources he acted on the advice of british intelligence
to former prime minister Tony Blair mr bush failed to
verify thru u s intellitence whether iraq had stocks of
weapons of mass destruciions (wmd) iraq had fought
war for 8 years with iran and they were exhausted
completely there was ban for supply of arms and ammunitions
to Iraq. he gave strike order to capture hussain and take
control of the country no one recommended for prosecuting
him in the international court of justice for trying as war
criminal
and often they pretend to be Christians !
There is more to this. I am an American citizen. I was grabbed walking to my flight in a jetway, flying to Europe. They clearly felt I met a profile of someone carrying huge amounts of cash. There was a standoff because it seemed they felt they could not open my roll on without permission. I really had no time and had a backache. I offered them a deal (and they jumped hearing the word...
There is more to this. I am an American citizen. I was grabbed walking to my flight in a jetway, flying to Europe. They clearly felt I met a profile of someone carrying huge amounts of cash. There was a standoff because it seemed they felt they could not open my roll on without permission. I really had no time and had a backache. I offered them a deal (and they jumped hearing the word deal). I would open my bag if they let me sit.
Bottom line, it is not a question of ID, it might be about huge amounts of cash.
Sheriffs are the top law enforcement officers in their counties, they have the authority to tell federal "agencies" like ICE to go back to where they came from.
Mhm. Oh, the irony of now the 'blue' states, cities, counties, etc. needing to claim 'states rights' and the 10th Amendment. At least this time it's for something good, and not literal human enslavement.
No they do not. States (and local officers) cannot interfere with the operations of the federal government nor can they invalidate federal law.
https://ecf.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/24/08/231457P.pdf
big deal
POTUS is deliberately trying to instigate a more extreme response as a pretense of declaring martial law or invoking the insurrection act. He will attempt this, it's only a matter of time.
100%. It's a manufactured crisis.
Trump Airlines folded following bankruptcy.
This has nothing to do with ICE. I just like reminding everyone that Trump has multiple bankruptcies.
If you’re here illegally, then you have broken the law. So back to Mexico you go!
Thank you Mr President for helping us be safe again.
He's not here reading this. OMAAT doesn't have enough underage content for his taste.
Gaaat dayyyum, Jimmy. Got'em!!
There are two things from Texas: steers and queers. So are you missing balls or licking tgem?
@F Key Texas
We were safer before ICE was given a bigger budget than the US Marine Corps.
The fact that Americans are happy just letting their country become a full-fledged dictatorship is absolutely insane.
Why aren't you marching in the streets? Why don't you DO something?? Despicable and disgusting.
Your inaction will be the undoing of the world as we know it.
you do realize there are law enforcement actions throughout the world?
Only in America do you have someone that is stupid enough to park their vehicle in the middle of the street and then drop into drive when someone with a gun is right in front of the vehicle and expect it will turn out well.
Wrong. Only in America would the FIRST action of law enforcement be to shoot a citizen dead without a moment's hesitation.
Even Communist China - as evil a regime as has existed in history - tries non-lethal tactics first in such situations.
You live in a completely unhinged society that is crumbling before the world's eyes.
China that unleashed Covid on the world and welded citizens in their apartments and let them starve to death . Sterilized a million Uyghurs . Clown comment .
No, that was not the first action. It was the only responsible response to a possibly deranged Karen that disobeyed direct orders from law enforcement and then put her car in gear and drove endangering law enforcement.
I live in NYC and we are suffering quite a bit from these harmless emigrants. These are not nice people that came to work and live a safe life.
In America, we expect that police are not judge, jury, and executioner.
…. and that is what all those immigrants who have settled in North America might think Tim. The fact is that anyone who is not a Native American, is an immigrant regardless of how many years ago their ancestors arrived.
If you take lethal action in the direction of any law enforcement officer in any part of the world, you will pay a price.
In the US, law enforcement is universally armed which carries immediate consequences.
This isn't the first time CBP has engaged in these tactics in the US; why is that we now have two cases in MN where people knowing put their individual lives on the line when it has been mass protests - that didn't result in mass deaths?
And only a stupid person thinks attempting to leave a situation where there is no legitimate underlying suspicion of criminal acts is justification for summary execution in the streets.
Wise up Timmy - Delta doesn't care about you, and Donny Trump sure as shit doesn't either.
@ Robble, So you like being in a country where you can park your car in the middle of the road and keep honking at the law enforcement officers, intimidating them and obstructing them from doing their lawful duties?
Try that in any other country and let us know how it goes.
and, for accuracy, the woman in Minnesota did all of those things but got shot when she put her car in drive pointed directly at a law enforcement officer - who did get wounded.
The majority of this outrage up there has nothing to do with ICE or immigration.
It has to do with a complete absence of logic and common sense in dealing w/ someone that is visibly armed.
Do the people that...
and, for accuracy, the woman in Minnesota did all of those things but got shot when she put her car in drive pointed directly at a law enforcement officer - who did get wounded.
The majority of this outrage up there has nothing to do with ICE or immigration.
It has to do with a complete absence of logic and common sense in dealing w/ someone that is visibly armed.
Do the people that are so quick to defend these protests are asking themselves if her kids will grow up and ask if their mother's actions carried too high of a price?
Timmy - It's not true that the woman in Minnesota pointed her car directly at a law enforcement officer. Not remotely true.
@Tim - for accuracy:
1) She did not "point her car" at him - MULTIPLE videos have shown she was turning her vehicle AWAY from him. Please don't try and gaslight folks to fit your narrative - it is widely understood around the world what happened;
2) Her motherhood is not the reason this happened - ICE agents being told and taught to shoot first, ask questions later is. Using her motherhood as...
@Tim - for accuracy:
1) She did not "point her car" at him - MULTIPLE videos have shown she was turning her vehicle AWAY from him. Please don't try and gaslight folks to fit your narrative - it is widely understood around the world what happened;
2) Her motherhood is not the reason this happened - ICE agents being told and taught to shoot first, ask questions later is. Using her motherhood as a reason to shame her out of civil protest or disobedience - or just being at the wrong place at the wrong time - is pretty disgusting.
3) There are protests happening all over. More this weekend.
4) "There is clearly something going on in Minnesota and if there isn't, the feds won't find anything illegal" is ignores history and politics, and Trump's ire for the city. MSP is one of THE hubs of white American progressivism, and Trump was furious about the George Floyd protests. This is clearly about retribution - there is zero evidence "there is clearly something going on in Minnesota" needing a surge in illegal immigration enforcement. There are FAR MORE folks in Texas and Florida, for example, who are in the country illegally...but no surge there; no people getting shot in their cars; no threats of Insurrection Act.
5) "The sooner they are allowed to do what they need to do, the sooner a return to normal will return." What ICE is doing is not "normal" - whether their actions are with folks who are undocumented or US Citizens, their actions are unprecedented. If anyone has made things abnormal, it is ICE and the Trump Administration.
6) This situation is black and white: ICE agents are not following long established protocols, they are acting provocatively, and they are breaking the law. These are just facts.
Hope this all helps with "accuracy!"
Well said, Robbie and Chuck. You guys get it. And rest assured, Americans of conscience are very much not just sitting back; we are protesting, speaking-out, demanding better, but it doesn't always get the cover it deserves, unless something horrifying happens, like the murder of Renee Good. So, don't mind Tim or Aero or BlackHill or whoever. Aero isn't even in the US; besides, they probably wouldn't 'get it,' until it happens to them, personally....
Well said, Robbie and Chuck. You guys get it. And rest assured, Americans of conscience are very much not just sitting back; we are protesting, speaking-out, demanding better, but it doesn't always get the cover it deserves, unless something horrifying happens, like the murder of Renee Good. So, don't mind Tim or Aero or BlackHill or whoever. Aero isn't even in the US; besides, they probably wouldn't 'get it,' until it happens to them, personally. Kinda sad, if you think of it; pity.
1990.
stop with your ideological rants long enough to ask
1. Will this woman's kids (and wife) ask if it was really worth it to challenge law enforcement - with them paying the price for years to come?
2. Why has this type of scene not happened in other parts of the country where ICE has clearly been visibly active?
3. What has changed about ICE's techniques in MN that they...
1990.
stop with your ideological rants long enough to ask
1. Will this woman's kids (and wife) ask if it was really worth it to challenge law enforcement - with them paying the price for years to come?
2. Why has this type of scene not happened in other parts of the country where ICE has clearly been visibly active?
3. What has changed about ICE's techniques in MN that they have to consider tracking the movement of people via common carrier transport that they have not done in other parts of the country?
there is clearly something going on in Minnesota and if there isn't, the feds won't find anything illegal.
If there is, the sooner they are allowed to do what they need to do, the sooner a return to normal will return.
They have come and gone from multiple cities without individuals not being shot even though plenty of people have protested as they have every right to do so.
the fact that you live life in such a black and white world - and are joined by so many other people here - is what is beyond frightening.
Timbits, I always knew you were a fascist from your support of the most evil airline on Earth, but your support of Mango Mussolini clinched it. What I would do if I was stopped by them (cis white male, so unlikely) is simple: yell out "F you, mall cop," and keep walking. They are responsible for any response.
you know what?
they have homeless people yelling at them all day long and they don't shoot.
You'll be fine as long as you don't put your car in drive and hit the gas w/ an officer right in front of the car.
speaking of airlines, let's see how this disrupts DL's operation in MSP - or not - but I'm betting DL's contribution to the inauguration party will yield better fruit than UA's...
you know what?
they have homeless people yelling at them all day long and they don't shoot.
You'll be fine as long as you don't put your car in drive and hit the gas w/ an officer right in front of the car.
speaking of airlines, let's see how this disrupts DL's operation in MSP - or not - but I'm betting DL's contribution to the inauguration party will yield better fruit than UA's which led to a massively disruptive spring in their highest revenue hub.
do make sure that you keep me posted on any video you find, ok?
@Tim Dunn
You are completely off base.
1. ICE gave her multiple conflicting instructions
2. Rossman, in violation of DHS policy, walked in front of her vehicle
3. Rossman, in violation of DHS policy, used lethal force to try and prevent her from fleeing
That's the most charitable I can possibly be to ICE. It was a bad shoot. He PLACED HIMSELF in jeopardy, and then because of that poor judgement...
@Tim Dunn
You are completely off base.
1. ICE gave her multiple conflicting instructions
2. Rossman, in violation of DHS policy, walked in front of her vehicle
3. Rossman, in violation of DHS policy, used lethal force to try and prevent her from fleeing
That's the most charitable I can possibly be to ICE. It was a bad shoot. He PLACED HIMSELF in jeopardy, and then because of that poor judgement felt threatened enough to draw his sidearm and SHOOT MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGH HER SIDE WINDOW. That is completely unjustifiable under both his agency's published policies and the law.
Instead of deep-throating the boot, hold law enforcement to a standard that reflects their power.
Seems like Dusty gave a solid response to your disingenuous line of leading questions.
Dusty, like you, selectively believes only what he wants.
When someone puts their car into drive and hits the gas toward law enforcement, you are going to get shot.
The depth to which some people stoop to defend stupidity is beyond believable.
Tim you cunt - if Good wanted to run over the ICEstapo agent, he was right in front of her, that would have been easy.
She TURNED her wheels and GTFOH. Use your brain you twat.
@Tim
Are you aware Ross fired two shots through her SIDE window when he was to the side of her car or are you not? Are you disputing this fact? The video evidence is there for all to see. You do not have to take Noem's word for it. You are doing the very thing you accuse me of.
And you still haven't answered whether Trump and his admin deserve ANY of the blame...
@Tim
Are you aware Ross fired two shots through her SIDE window when he was to the side of her car or are you not? Are you disputing this fact? The video evidence is there for all to see. You do not have to take Noem's word for it. You are doing the very thing you accuse me of.
And you still haven't answered whether Trump and his admin deserve ANY of the blame for creating this situation in the first place by:
1. Hiring unqualified morons
2. Not training those unqualified morons
3. Giving those unqualified morons a financial incentive to detain as many people as possible
Are you that blinded by partisan hate that you CAN'T SEE how that's a recipe for abuse and tragedy?
Jonathan Ross (Not Rossman, as you call him) was hired over 10 years ago and previously worked for CBP. It's hard to pin this on Trump, as any changes to hiring/training are not relevant in this case, given the senior agent involved.
@Brian
Yes, I had the name wrong. My apologies for the error. That being said, this is not a case of one bad egg. This guy had a prior incident (under this admin) of not following DHS protocol with regards to suspects/people in motor vehicles and got dragged. DHS initially tried to pass off his shooting this time as "PTSD" or whatever from the prior incident. If that's the case and he was still...
@Brian
Yes, I had the name wrong. My apologies for the error. That being said, this is not a case of one bad egg. This guy had a prior incident (under this admin) of not following DHS protocol with regards to suspects/people in motor vehicles and got dragged. DHS initially tried to pass off his shooting this time as "PTSD" or whatever from the prior incident. If that's the case and he was still dealing with trauma from the first incident, he should never have been on the streets. He should have been working a desk.
And that's where Trump's admin comes in. Trump (Stephen Miller) is trying to deport as many people as possible, regardless of whether they're actually here illegally. They've given ICE a massive budget, they've dropped hiring and training (and presumably retention) standards through the floor. They're giving ICE agents a bonus for every arrest made, regardless of whether that arrest results in a charge or conviction. They DON'T CARE how badly these government agents behave. They're ENCOURAGING it by hiring literally the bottom of the barrel and giving them bonuses for arrests. Any borderline bad egg that's been in the agency for longer but was kept in check by the threat of accountability now has free reign to act on his worst impulses, and is surrounded by a horde of others to encourage him.
Could we see an ICE Airways lounge at MSP soon?
@UncleRonnie
MSP is Delta's hub and new competition will be trouble for them.
Ben - I rarely fly into MSP, but is it considered an international airport (I know there were international flights in the past) - but how is this different than what is done currently at places like EWR/ORD/JFK/SFO?
Because federal agents usually aren't doing this for domestic flights at EWR/ORD/JFK/SFO... but they're about to do so at MSP...
MSP is a hub for Delta. Delta inherited it from Northwest. There are many international flights operating at MSP
MSP was formerly the international airport when Northwest was
operating and later on it was bought by Delta and merged
Be sure to tell them you are waiting for the day they all hang. After due process, of course.
A lot of you seem to think that carrying this regime's water will spare you from the gulag.
But, but.. the leopards won't eat MY face... I'm 'one of the good ones'.. I came 'the right way'... /s
Most of you are bleeding immigrants if the truth be known, get with the program or get out, yes?
Most of the people commenting here are immigrants? Care to offer any data to support your wild claim?
Easy Chuck.
North America is believed to have been colonised by humans 10-20,000 years ago.
So, everyone even Native North American Indians are immigrants or descendants of.
Halt! Papiere, bitte!
On the other hand, who travels there in the winter.
German here. You may be surprised to here that in modern day Germany which is extremely left leaning, the police have the right to ask anyone for their legal papers. No one ever had an issue with that - and why would you unless you break the law? When I first came to the US many decades ago, I was always puzzled how police would not ask me if I am actually legally in the...
German here. You may be surprised to here that in modern day Germany which is extremely left leaning, the police have the right to ask anyone for their legal papers. No one ever had an issue with that - and why would you unless you break the law? When I first came to the US many decades ago, I was always puzzled how police would not ask me if I am actually legally in the country. I understand that's because police is part of the state or county which do not enforce federal laws. But this type of separation of power between states and federal government is a unique American concept. To my knowledge this does not exist in any European country and it has nothing to do whatsoever with being politically left or right. In general, I would argue that in the Western world where police are usually are not corrupt , any law abiding citizens welcomes enforcement of laws. And why wouldn't they? The folks on the extreme sides of the political spectrum on either side do not agree with the laws and want to overthrow our society which is why they hate law enforcement and the lefties have slogans like ACAB. But the cops are not the problem , are they?
I can understand your concerns. However, some Police Departments have what is called a 287(g) agreement with ICE. Under Section 287(g), Any Law Enforcement Agency can enter into an agreement to identify, process, and - when appropriate - detain immigration offenders they encounter during regular law enforcement activity. I'm all for a secure border here in the United States, but I am very concerned with how this current border situation is being handled by U.S....
I can understand your concerns. However, some Police Departments have what is called a 287(g) agreement with ICE. Under Section 287(g), Any Law Enforcement Agency can enter into an agreement to identify, process, and - when appropriate - detain immigration offenders they encounter during regular law enforcement activity. I'm all for a secure border here in the United States, but I am very concerned with how this current border situation is being handled by U.S. Border Patrol (An agency with Customs and Border Protection), ICE, HSI (Homeland Security Investigations), DEA, and the ATF. Maybe the FBI. It is a complete mess.
Problem starts when people use the loophole that says "US citizens aren’t required to show identification to ICE agents".
ICE will start using the loophole that says ICE can detain you temporarily if they have "reasonable suspicion" you're undocumented and you can't immediately prove your citizenship with ID like a passport or birth certificate, even though citizens aren't legally required to carry ID.
Both the legal.
To minimize the wastage of your time and...
Problem starts when people use the loophole that says "US citizens aren’t required to show identification to ICE agents".
ICE will start using the loophole that says ICE can detain you temporarily if they have "reasonable suspicion" you're undocumented and you can't immediately prove your citizenship with ID like a passport or birth certificate, even though citizens aren't legally required to carry ID.
Both the legal.
To minimize the wastage of your time and ICE officers time, its better to present them with your ID and move on with your daily task.
'Just comply' ...*complies, gets shot anyway* ...'obviously, a domestic terrorist...' /s
I'm brown skin. Came to this country almost 30 years ago from a third world country. Have followed laws and rightfully gained citizenship.
I know how things work in the third world countries. Sadly this country is on a downward spiral for the last 15 years.
Obey the law for the sake of yourself and others. It's not that difficult.
I'd go with 10 years, since 2016, specifically... if you still think you're 'one of the good ones' because you 'came the right way' and proudly wear a 'red hat,' I hope that works out for you. However, it often does not work out well for anyone, because these regimes keep expanding the out-group as a way to retain power. This will not last forever. In the meantime, sincerely please do take good care of yourself and yours.
That’s when they say it’s fake
since 1990 and I play on multiple aviation websites but not everyone here does,
I'll just note what someone else said about the interaction between 1990 and me.
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1990, moronic as always, keeps confusing breathless narrative for insight and then becomes indignant when anyone points out that law enforcement sometimes exists for reasons other than his personal political grievances. What makes him so exhausting to read is the constant leap from ordinary...
since 1990 and I play on multiple aviation websites but not everyone here does,
I'll just note what someone else said about the interaction between 1990 and me.
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1990, moronic as always, keeps confusing breathless narrative for insight and then becomes indignant when anyone points out that law enforcement sometimes exists for reasons other than his personal political grievances. What makes him so exhausting to read is the constant leap from ordinary policy disagreements to grand historical doom.... The irony is that all this theatrical panic creates less clarity because it treats voters as emotional spectators rather than rational adults who are capable of weighing tradeoffs.
Tim Dunn, by contrast, talks about security like a normal person. He notes that crimes exist, victims exist, and law enforcement that actually enforces the law is not inherently tyranny....Tim seems willing to admit that public order is a prerequisite for freedom, not its opposite.
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the rational middle - the largest portion - on any subject don't protest in the streets or block roads - but they do vote and pay taxes.
What that person said there can be applied to a whole lot of people in this conversation as well.
I guess I'm really that much of a threat to your odd worldview. Feel free to keep feeding me more attention, Tim. Nom nom nom...
Take your anger out on US voters that specifically said crime and illegal immigration was a very important issue in the last election.
I'm not angry; more ashamed of the way things are going. Deporting violent criminals is one thing... bullying passengers at MSP isn't that, and no majority voted for it, either.
go ahead and park yourself at MSP and document what goes down. There won't be the coverage inside security that is going on outside. The vast majority of people just want to get on their plane and go.
They have free WiFi at MSP. You won't miss a beat here
Tim, we can do better than that... after all, there's also a brand-new Delta SkyClub at G17... I'd've thought you'd be promoting that! The one at F could use a refresh. And, if you need an overnight stay, why not redeem one of those 40K IHG Premier card free nights at the nearby new-ish InterContinental at MSP. Unfortunately, no DeltaOne lounge yet... hmm... work on that!
Don't waste all of our time. Posting about an interpersonal chat that comes from another website is extremely childish. Grow up, Timmy.
The USA is a foe and not a European ally. Greenland is European. Kirsti “ Irma Grese “ Noem can rot
Yesterday Trump flipped the bird and told an employee to f. Off. How presidential. He’s a misogynistic racist narcissistic dotard. Europe should start by selling all US bonds and the majority of Americans demand the government is impeached. Why would anyone go to the World Cup and Olympics when they risk being shot.
Icarus, respectfully, the United States of America is a lot of things to a lot of different people. Our current government is not all of us, either.
If Europe wants to play hard-ball, it absolutely should sell US bonds, soon; however, that would likely plunge the global economy into a tailspin. No one would be unscathed, here or there. It inadvertently may assist the Chinese in pushing CNY everywhere; something no one in the...
Icarus, respectfully, the United States of America is a lot of things to a lot of different people. Our current government is not all of us, either.
If Europe wants to play hard-ball, it absolutely should sell US bonds, soon; however, that would likely plunge the global economy into a tailspin. No one would be unscathed, here or there. It inadvertently may assist the Chinese in pushing CNY everywhere; something no one in the West (or elsewhere) really wants.
As for the WorldCup and Olympics, I expect it will be under-attended in the US, more domestic audience, less foreign visitors, except those wealthy enough to afford it and to at least feel 'protected' by their wealth. Not sure the 1936 Games are the right comparison, but it rhymes.
Ben better be careful!!! There is a way he could be detained. Here's how...
Ben has a German passport, very legal. However, he enters the US with his US passport, as he is supposed to. Foreign passports qualify as RealID. So what if Ben carries his German passport to use as RealID because he doesn't want to take out his RealID driver's license for fear of losing it and not being able to rent a...
Ben better be careful!!! There is a way he could be detained. Here's how...
Ben has a German passport, very legal. However, he enters the US with his US passport, as he is supposed to. Foreign passports qualify as RealID. So what if Ben carries his German passport to use as RealID because he doesn't want to take out his RealID driver's license for fear of losing it and not being able to rent a car on a trip. So what if Ben travels to MSP then loses his wallet. When stopped by ICE, he will show them his German passport. ICE then uses their tablet to see no record of that passport entering the US. ILLEGAL ALIEN! Deport Ben despite his protests and showing the OMAAT website. Oh!!! Of course, Ben could straighten it out eventually but OMAAT might be off line for a few weeks while he does it.
Quite the imagination you go there. I think Ben's gonna be just fine.
So then give 3 cheers to Donald Trump!!! I didn't know you were a MAGA supporter!
I sympathize with the government officers , because they will be vilified by drunk troublemakers
Alert propagandist, always wanting to bring excuses for problems that do not exist.
Hi Maryland, hope you're feeling better by now! ;-)
Thank you for sharing even more outstanding news, Ben. You're truly the gift that keeps on giving.
Ben, this is not unprecedented, it happened in Nazi Germany, in Stalin's USSR, and many other places.
It always ends with bloodshed. Sad to see how the US has become an authoritarian state and it's just the beginning of this spiral downward.
We are not the same as those places or eras. And it doesn't have to end that way. Congress can grow a spine. The Courts can grow a spine. Companies can grow a spine. They might not. But, let's be clear: We are not powerless. And none of this is over. I still believe in non-violence.
Lawless, extremely corrupt Democrats in Minnesota are committing massive outrageous fraud in billions of dollars along with illegal immigrants primarily Somali need to be handled seriously as it is undermining national security and taxpayers money. ICE under the Trump administration is absolutely doing the right thing.
If Faux News says it, then it must be true.
Your masters told you to close your eyes and imagine the world is dark and you're spewing just that.
So.. adding ID checks at the airport (where it's already happening for anyone going through security or clearing immigration per the usual process) is supposed to address that? How?
This is intimidation and escalation - full stop. It would do nothing to secure our border (which ICE barbie constantly claims is already very secure on the stupid commercials they're constantly playing on TV).
Yeah and Trump's DOJ's refusal to cooperate with state investigators and their refusal to investigate the ICE shooter while initiating an investigation into his victim's wife was so egregious that the lead DOJ prosecutor working on the fraud cases in MN just quit his job in protest (and if he had lasted this long, its hard to say he's anti-Trump). If this were really about fraud they wouldn't have done that, but its about vilifying...
Yeah and Trump's DOJ's refusal to cooperate with state investigators and their refusal to investigate the ICE shooter while initiating an investigation into his victim's wife was so egregious that the lead DOJ prosecutor working on the fraud cases in MN just quit his job in protest (and if he had lasted this long, its hard to say he's anti-Trump). If this were really about fraud they wouldn't have done that, but its about vilifying brown people and intimidating Americans who might use their Constitutional rights to protest his regime. There's no reason to ramp up federal presence at MSP except to terrorize and punish residents of the Twin Cities.
Whatever works to get the situation under control, or even to just send a message. Speaking of our version of Nuremberg trials - we clearly need them for the people who opened our border to millions of foreigners during the last admin. One of Trump's biggest weaknesses is that he hasn't done any of that.
Trump's biggest weaknesses are probably his involvement with Epstein and age.
"to get the situation under control"... the out-of-control situation is being caused in real time by the person who claims to be your savior. You guys really don't have a clue. If jefe says the sky is green, then it must be green.
Oh honey. You appear to have the IQ of a snail.
If there are Nuremberg trials, both parties will be guilty. Trump, obviously. For the Democrats, on social media, there's a lot of hate towards rich people and wanting to raise their income taxes. Often there is a mention of a 91% income tax rate in the 1950's.
They fail to mention that Congress put in that 91% rate because they wanted to dictate investments. There were many tax deductions and tax shelters that no longer...
If there are Nuremberg trials, both parties will be guilty. Trump, obviously. For the Democrats, on social media, there's a lot of hate towards rich people and wanting to raise their income taxes. Often there is a mention of a 91% income tax rate in the 1950's.
They fail to mention that Congress put in that 91% rate because they wanted to dictate investments. There were many tax deductions and tax shelters that no longer are available. Use those and you got an income tax rate in the 30%'s. They were discontinued because government found that they encouraged bad investments. Still, the social media push is for a 91% income tax on other people, not the posters of the memes. Get this.....
Nazi Germany started a 92% wealth tax on Jews, just like social media wants 91% tax on billionaires (or even 100% if over $1B). So the progressive Democratic Socialists are just like Nazi. Try them along with Trump.
derek, bonus points for false equivalency and whataboutism. No, this ain't both-sides.
Advocating for a progressive tax structure is not the same as having a secret police or operating a paramilitary loyal to the President personally, all in violation of our Constitution.
Real ID has nothing related to citizenship. I’m on pending affirmative asylum (affirmative = not in deportation process, arrived to the US with a visa). I have a classic DL with Real ID symbol.
Almost all states provide Real ID for non-citizen if they can proof their identity
Sounds like you're about to have a rough time boarding a flight at MSP!
Is America great again yet?
Genuine question for the Trumptards, Epstein defenders and genocidal Zionists.
Regardless of your political stance, I hope we can all recognize that this is not a practical tactic that will actually increase the number of arrests or deportations, because everyone will have already demonstated that they are a lawful resident. Your identification gets validated at TSA, it's not like a bar bouncer. Therefore the obvious conclusion is that this is entirely for optics.
You don't have to be a lawful resident to get through TSA. Foreigners use foreign passports at TSA all the time.
I hope that at least, those semi-illiterate Nazis from ICE will take out their masks to check documents at the airport.
If you have nothing to hide...you have nothing to fear.
Shut it, bootlicker
A criminal all dressed up and pretending to be ‘ard Albert, old sausage?
If it's good enough for Pius Thicknesse, then it must be right. Honestly, you guys don't even have a clue which is the "good" side.
Which explains why the snowflakes who work for ICE wear masks...
So why is ICE hiding behind their masks?
If I had a child in ICE (or any branch of law enforcement), I wouldn't want them facing death threats, doxing, harassment, etc. when their picture ends up in a news article as they legally perform their duties. I'd worry about my grandchildren. The anti-ICE crowd has shown themselves as bad as the Vietnam-era protesters who treated vets so poorly. Let them hide their faces, but make the wear code numbers that the public has no access to.
Ben knows how to tap into a story that will generate more heat and much less light than the usual DL vs UA discussions.
1990 is going to be a very busy boy for the next day or so.
the fact is that CBP is finding criminals in every city where they have been operating. I don't care who finds them but Americans do not want their lives at risk because of unrestrained criminal...
Ben knows how to tap into a story that will generate more heat and much less light than the usual DL vs UA discussions.
1990 is going to be a very busy boy for the next day or so.
the fact is that CBP is finding criminals in every city where they have been operating. I don't care who finds them but Americans do not want their lives at risk because of unrestrained criminal activity.
and there are clearly specific reasons why CBP and ICE are going to down in Minnesota.
All MN needs to do is stop taking federal money and repay what they got- some of which is being cut off for now anyway - and then the feds would have no reason to be concerned about what goes on there.
A whole lot of taxpayers in other states are not interested in seeing money being sent to MN only for it to be sent out of the country for whatever reason.
Tim, Delta is gonna be disrupted by this; I guess you're more MAGA, than pro-Delta. Wild.
Absolutely Tim and yes 1990 …. you are both excellent click-bait commentators, Ben, must luv you both …. :-)
If our 'engagement' on here benefits Ben, that makes me smile.
Spot on.
MN is a donor state. They sent in $44b more than they received in return. If anything, the Feds should be cutting refund checks.
Pari, taxation without representation was kinda how 1776 started... I'd prefer a more peaceful settling of differences, and for our Congress to start to have a spine again.
Just when we thought Tim couldn't get any more insufferable or toxic...
First, Tim, you're a tiny handed cunt.
Second - notice how ICE activities are basically limited to Blue states? No illegals in Miami, OKC, the three Ohio cities, Indianapolis, Birmingham, etc? your DL-addled brain probably can't comprehend why that is.
UA-NYC, that’s a bingo!
STFU 1990. You post more than Russian Bots on X!!
Aww, thanks for the extra attention.
Luv your straight talking Ronnie …. :-)
Nazis gonna Nazi. God I CANNOT wait for our version of the Nuremberg trials. History will not be kind to these people.
you have a very smooth brain
You’re in a cult. Get help
Comparing document checks to what led to the Nuremberg trials shows horrific TDS-induced hypocrisy at best and severe mental illness at worst.
Aren’t these the same folks that wanted vaccine passports and to have camps for unvaxxed?
Aren’t there reports of somalis flying with absurd amounts of cash abroad?
You’re in a cult. Get help.
@Tuck Frump. Came here today just to give you a like. I'm waiting for the tribunals too.
ICE recruitment videos now feature a soundtrack that includes songs and chants of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. DHS is now using an actual Nazi slogan. Trump campaign ads actually used films of the Nazi's Nuremberg rallies. Trump has used slogans uttered by Hitler and other Nazi leaders.
Hitler was vegetarian as well, so clearly all vegetarians are also Nazis.
"Hitler was vegetarian as well, so clearly all vegetarians are also Nazis."
You embarrassed yourself with this comment, bless your heart. Like, your syllogism may as well have been: Hitler liked green, therefore all nuns are squirrels.
LOL! Thank you for the laugh, though.
@VkadG don’t know about that. But it’s confirmed, this VladG is definitely a dumb POS
NEXUS cards (or indeed any DHS Trusted Traveler card), any driver licence from a Canadian province, or any foreign passport are acceptable forms of ID for boarding flights in USA, whether "REALID" compliant or not.
source: TSA website. today.
Yes, that's accurate, but that isn't the issue here. TSA already does these document checks at security checkpoints; therefore, no one in that terminal is not allowed to be there; no one needs to be secondarily screened for a domestic flight (remaining within the US). If ICE were to do this on-arrival or before-departure for an international flight, that is slightly more understandable, but, for random domestic flights, this is just political theater, designed to...
Yes, that's accurate, but that isn't the issue here. TSA already does these document checks at security checkpoints; therefore, no one in that terminal is not allowed to be there; no one needs to be secondarily screened for a domestic flight (remaining within the US). If ICE were to do this on-arrival or before-departure for an international flight, that is slightly more understandable, but, for random domestic flights, this is just political theater, designed to escalate, punish 'blue' cities.
Can't even follow all that. I was simply correcting an error in Ben's post, which described ID requirements incorrectly.
Thanks again for harping on a non-issue.
1990, the more you blather on explaining for Ben, the more people are going to come to the obvious conclusion. Furthermore, it has nothing whatsoever to do with aiding Ben’s, click count.
If a bird looks like a duck, flies like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, the chances are that it is a duck, yes?
In short 1990, think on.
Aero, as DenB said: "Can't even follow all that." LOL.
That's a concern for an International Airline like Air France. I can understand Departures. But arrivals into MSP? That's actually more for U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
It's still winter... shouldn't MSP be focused on de-ICE-ing?
In the case of MSP, it's a necessary thing to do. The listless, yet corrupt, political leaders in the Twin Cities have forced this. And, I'm sure that ICE will indeed find criminal behavior. I just hope that those who are arrested will be joined by the local clown known as Tampon Tim and that Somali chick who does the dirty with her brother.
How very "show me the man, and I'll find you the crime" of you...
"How very "show me the man, and I'll find you the crime" of you..."
No, that was the last administration.
So the solution is to bring in Trump’s trigger-happy, poorly trained and barely vetted personal goon squad?
chasgoose, yeah, clearly, it's a horrible idea, and rabid-partisans or foreign dis-info-agents eat this slop up. The more we hate each other, the better for those who seek to retain power through chaos.
So dumb. God forbid the law be enforced. No, let's not have borders. Although the PRC (whom I'm sure you love) wouldn't tolerate any of these "undocumented" aliens in their country.
We shouldn't be spending money on a personal army for Trump with an amorphous and ever-expanding mission that is increasingly targeting US citizens who oppose his regime (I mean that's literally why we fought the Revolution in the first place). That money would be a lot better spent on Border Patrol and increasing the number of immigration judges and, especially, asylum officers (both at the border and internally). If we had enough asylum officers to...
We shouldn't be spending money on a personal army for Trump with an amorphous and ever-expanding mission that is increasingly targeting US citizens who oppose his regime (I mean that's literally why we fought the Revolution in the first place). That money would be a lot better spent on Border Patrol and increasing the number of immigration judges and, especially, asylum officers (both at the border and internally). If we had enough asylum officers to properly process and reject bogus asylum claims quickly we wouldn't have to release non-criminals who make asylum claims into the country on their own reconnaissance and to the extent some still get through we could process their claims much faster instead of it taking years.
This ramp-up of ICE presence has absolutely nothing to do with illegal immigration and everything to do with punishing and terrorizing residents of the Twin Cities for opposing Trump. I don't care what your politics are, but a President using federal law enforcement to retaliate against his opponents is profoundly un-American and anti-freedom. Go move to Hungary if you want to live in a country like that.
Total BS
You are such a fool.
What a typically leftist comment. You know nothing about me, can't argue why I'm wrong, so you go with a random insult. And, I'm confident that you feel great about it....like you really got me! Someone who is so simple as to think they're a genius.
God forbid we support following the law. No, anarchy is better. That's your side's viewpoint. I do not that nobody here argues that my comments regarding certain Minnesota pols is inaccurate. Because it's not.
stogieguy7, oof. Quite the set of strawmen and whataboutisms you got going on there.
I donno about the others here, but I'm certainly no fan of the CCP or PRC, because they are running a one-party dictatorship (I'd like to avoid that happening in the US); I respect the sovereignty of the free peoples of the Republic of China (Taiwan), Republic of Korea (South Korea), etc., and our other democratic allies in that region...
stogieguy7, oof. Quite the set of strawmen and whataboutisms you got going on there.
I donno about the others here, but I'm certainly no fan of the CCP or PRC, because they are running a one-party dictatorship (I'd like to avoid that happening in the US); I respect the sovereignty of the free peoples of the Republic of China (Taiwan), Republic of Korea (South Korea), etc., and our other democratic allies in that region (Japan, Philippines, etc.) Sure, no one is perfect, but they are our friends. Yet, we're not really discussing E. Asia, here, are we?
As for anarchy, not a fan, either. On the other end of the spectrum, not a fan of a police state. It doesn't have to be either extreme.
Agents on jet bridges for arriving and departing flights have more to do with taking out currency that's equivalent to US$10,000 or more as it could be used for money laundering, fund terrorism operations and for arriving flights usually arriving from high drug traffic points where drugs could be smuggled especially internally.
While you surely have heard of "Locked Up Abroad" on Nat Geo, there's this other show I enjoy "Catching A Smuggler". It...
Agents on jet bridges for arriving and departing flights have more to do with taking out currency that's equivalent to US$10,000 or more as it could be used for money laundering, fund terrorism operations and for arriving flights usually arriving from high drug traffic points where drugs could be smuggled especially internally.
While you surely have heard of "Locked Up Abroad" on Nat Geo, there's this other show I enjoy "Catching A Smuggler". It shows you operations at multiple border crossings such as land, sea, and airports as well as mail and parcels that could potentially carry drugs and other smuggled items; people are really creative on how they smuggle things! And as an avgeek like everyone on here, it shows you the behind the scenes at airports that you don't regularly get to see.
Wouldn't such currency be found during security screening (TSA)? Seems more like you've fallen for the conspiracy theory, less so the reality...
TSA is security, not law enforcement. So they can't legally seize cash unlike CBP and HSI.
But they can detain you if they suspect the cash is being used for illegal activity.
Mike, sounds like that should be the process... TSA can and should do their job, no need for ICE to be on jet bridges. Have ICE on-call at TSA, if they really must be there... probably also more cost-effective. There's usually one security screening area; many, many jet bridges. Sheesh, the inefficiency and incompetency of these fasc..
Is TSA really going to question and/or detain every single person who's carrying more than US$10,000?! And there are plenty of passengers who don't report such currency and other contraband.
While it's the job of the CBP and not ICE, they still fall under the same jurisdiction.
If you see a brick of cash on the monitor, it can and many should be flagged. Otherwise, it's not really that much. We can keep going down this rabbit hole, together, but it's not the actual issue here, like, at all.
Would TSA see a $10,OOO check on the monitor or even care to look at it? Would they care if they see $10,000 in various forms of currency?
CBP has a right to seize it if not reported even if you go over by a penny.
The law is the law. And I rather do the right thing than argue. Other countries do it too.
I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a Republican.
Mike, you're digging the hole deeper, and it's going nowhere.
The 'new' thing here, is not federal agents before or after international flights (that already happens, CPB literally processes passports at entry; occasionally agents check who's leaving the country).
What's new here is that ICE is just checking documents randomly on jet bridges before domestic flights (that's not really their jurisdiction).
As for domestic flights, there is no limit on valuables, cash,...
Mike, you're digging the hole deeper, and it's going nowhere.
The 'new' thing here, is not federal agents before or after international flights (that already happens, CPB literally processes passports at entry; occasionally agents check who's leaving the country).
What's new here is that ICE is just checking documents randomly on jet bridges before domestic flights (that's not really their jurisdiction).
As for domestic flights, there is no limit on valuables, cash, or cash equivalents for domestic flights. You wanna bring a briefcase with $1,000,000 in Benjamins from MSP-ATL, you do you. I wouldn't.
As for your partisanship, that's irrelevant. And, if you know anything about 'laws,' rarely is it as simple as 'the law is the law,' rather, usually, it depends. When folks get caught up in this, which they will, some will sue, and then all this gets litigated further, case by case.
I have a feeling 1990 is indeed Tim Dunn's alter ego.
Seeing how Mike O. is right and 1990 end up claiming to be right by going off topic and make Mike wrong seems to fit Timmy MO.
TSA should never care how much cash is on you.
Wrapping cash on your body just means a pat down. Nothing illegal.
They want one thing, stop the sanctuary policies!
Who's 'they'?
If you mean MAGA, I'm pretty sure they just want to harm their perceived enemies.
For domestic flights, no. I support ICE and I want every one of these Somalians gone. That being said I don't want a police state for citizens. Not to mention most people do not carry a passport on domestic travel. How would they prove they're a US citizen?
Mr George Racist, What do you mean “everyone of these Somalians”?
"At first they came for the Somalis, but I did not speak out for I was not a Somali..."
I see the others have this covered.
George, perhaps, a little less bull-horn, more dog-whistle, please.
To obtain a Real ID, one must prove lawful residency in the US. Thus, producing a Real ID is good enough. If you say that Real IDs can be faked in spite of their safety features, then a passport or a birth certificate can be faked.
Melania Trump and Elon Musk both over-stayed their visas. Shall we deport them?
The US Constitution allowed for the importation of slaves until 1808. All slaves imported after...
To obtain a Real ID, one must prove lawful residency in the US. Thus, producing a Real ID is good enough. If you say that Real IDs can be faked in spite of their safety features, then a passport or a birth certificate can be faked.
Melania Trump and Elon Musk both over-stayed their visas. Shall we deport them?
The US Constitution allowed for the importation of slaves until 1808. All slaves imported after 1808 were done so illegally. As most Black Americans would likely trace one line of their family tree to one of those imported after 1808. Would it be your wish to get rid of all ni**ers as well?
@ The Other Jack no, you don't need to prove lawful residency in USA to obtain a RealID® card. NEXUS cards are RealID® compliant and are issued to Canadians who neither live nor work in USA. The same is true of other DHS Trusted Traveler cards, which are issues to various classes of persons not resident in USA.
We have plenty of DLs from CA and NY to prove that illegals have Real ID DL. With many of their lastname or first name saying UNKNOWN.
That's not ID. That's fraud.
@ The Other Jack,
You're not wrong. There are plenty of illegals with Name saying NO GIVEN NAME were given real ID from CA< NY and other blue states.
Feel free to google "Illegal Real ID scam" or "NO Name given Real ID.
This is exactly what Democrats want so they can keep importing illegals to vote for them.
Also see how ICE Arrests Rafael Andres Rubio Bohorquez Criminal Illegal Alien Employed by...
@ The Other Jack,
You're not wrong. There are plenty of illegals with Name saying NO GIVEN NAME were given real ID from CA< NY and other blue states.
Feel free to google "Illegal Real ID scam" or "NO Name given Real ID.
This is exactly what Democrats want so they can keep importing illegals to vote for them.
Also see how ICE Arrests Rafael Andres Rubio Bohorquez Criminal Illegal Alien Employed by New York City Council.
They are committing many crimes, not just being in the US. Like this guy, how did he get SSN when he came on Visitor Visa and overstayed. How did NYC council employ him without I9 Verification? How did SS taxes were paid by NYC council for this employee? They break every law in the nation and democrats and liberals support such lawbreakers for votes.
Lets say someone got Real ID with the lawful status and their visa is revoked after that. Do you still consider their presence as lawful?
Not a somali, but they aren't going any where. 30 Years too late.
Excellent news, about time.
Aren't you concerned, you know, as an importer/exporter of latex, potato chips, corn, and long matches?
Absolutely insane that we are having to "show papers" just to not be kidnapped and disappeared by our government and even more insane that more than half the readers here seem to be a fan of this. What happened to our 4th amendment rights? No searches without probable cause? Did we just throw that out?
We do already have to show papers at airports as-is (TSA); this secondary search is silly. That said, our protections under the 4th are limited in airports and certain other contexts.
For comparison, in some other countries, like Australia, for domestic flights, you just scan your boarding pass at security, no ID check.
Our rights are limited in airports as it pertains to the safety of a flight full of people. The infringements on our liberty at airports were never supposed to extend into arbitrary questioning about our citizenship.
I am mind boggled at the sheer number of people who go along with this. But then again, millions of people supported Hitler. Humanity gonna humanity, welp.
XenaWP, other than a vocal minority of right-wingers and foreign disinfo agents on-line, most people, on the groun, in-person, are horrified by all of this, and know that it isn't right, at all. Less, 'welp,' and more, "all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
I'd really like to believe that's true. But half the country voted for him. And I think close to half are still ambivalent or supportive of what he's doing.
I remember being horrified when I realized/learned that a large percentage of the population is naturally inclined towards authoritarian governments: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/28/who-likes-authoritarianism-and-how-do-they-want-to-change-their-government/
Not sure why I'm wasting my time on here commenting. It won't change anything. I increasingly have no desire to have any interaction with them...
I'd really like to believe that's true. But half the country voted for him. And I think close to half are still ambivalent or supportive of what he's doing.
I remember being horrified when I realized/learned that a large percentage of the population is naturally inclined towards authoritarian governments: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/28/who-likes-authoritarianism-and-how-do-they-want-to-change-their-government/
Not sure why I'm wasting my time on here commenting. It won't change anything. I increasingly have no desire to have any interaction with them (and I'm sure the feeling is mutual). It's just tragic and pitiful that the vast majority of people don't recognize the real issue is class warfare.
Xena, you're always welcome to comment here, if you want to, and, no, it isn't a waste of time. Your individual commentary may not change anything, but, in the aggregate it does matter. It shows that people are not just going along with this. Also, you're not wrong about the class issues here.
Not to get in the weeds here, but, it's not literally 'half' the country; it's more like 1/3, in 2024, 77...
Xena, you're always welcome to comment here, if you want to, and, no, it isn't a waste of time. Your individual commentary may not change anything, but, in the aggregate it does matter. It shows that people are not just going along with this. Also, you're not wrong about the class issues here.
Not to get in the weeds here, but, it's not literally 'half' the country; it's more like 1/3, in 2024, 77 million vs. 75 million, so, about 154 million in a country of 340 million (174 million were registered, so 20 million sat it out). And, keep in mind, since he took office, his support has fallen, because most of his policies and implementation are pretty bad for us.
I am equally mind boggled and ashamed that so many people, especially on this site, are okay with this. Here's the difference between now and 1930's/40's Germany: These hateful people are writing this on the internet. What goes on the internet never fully goes away. They can't burn the papers to hide what they have said. One day, when all of this is over and the trials start, it will be much harder for them...
I am equally mind boggled and ashamed that so many people, especially on this site, are okay with this. Here's the difference between now and 1930's/40's Germany: These hateful people are writing this on the internet. What goes on the internet never fully goes away. They can't burn the papers to hide what they have said. One day, when all of this is over and the trials start, it will be much harder for them to hide their true colors when they felt empowered to hate. And that is a date I'm looking forward to immensely.
"...more insane that more than half the readers here seem to be a fan of this."
It's not half the readers, it's less than half of the commenters, because many of the pro fat orange Nazi commenters are trolls that go from site to site leaving their crap stains in their wakes. A huge majority of Americans are opposed to the violence being plagued on major US cities, including over half of self-identified Republic party members.
TravelinWilly, agreed, it's very few people, actually.
You know what is absolutely insane?
The very politicians we trust to provide us with safe environment keep importing unverified and dangerous illegals so they will have more congressional representatives. And even more insane is liberals supporting such things in the name of compassion.
We are a country of law, if one cannot respect and follow our laws, one should not be here in the first place.
BlackHill, put in other words, 'just following orders' isn't a valid defense. This isn't about upholding the 'law,' it's not 'rule of law,' this is 'rule by law,' and the 'law' appears to be whatever those in-power decide it is, often on a whim, in direct violation of our Constitution.
This is not about safety, law, or anything else, except intimidation and political theater. It's red-meat for Trump's base (attack the blue cities). There's already ID checks at TSA. This will inevitably disrupt flights and be bad for nearly everyone, including the airlines that operate there.
We see federal agents on the jet bridges at JFK, but it's mostly for departing and arriving international flights. To do this for domestic flights is absurd. Expect unnecessary detentions. Expect racial profiling. And, expect decent people to use their 1St Amendment right to 'disrespect' agents, then 'incidents' and delayed or cancelled flights. None of this should be happening.
How good is the ID check when even illegals with NO NAME GIVEN can get real ID from NY, CA and maybe other blue states.
What's even the purpose of ID if name says NO NAME GIVEN?
100%
Sure would be nice to hear something from the hometown airline, too.
Yeah, Pari, this isn't 'great' for Delta. Sure, Tim seems to think it doesn't matter because it's low-season at MSP (heart of winter). Besides, anyone who watches Fox News thinks Minnesota is war zone already anyway (it wasn't and it still isn't), so it's not like they're going through there anytime soon.
Northwest Orient would never put up with this nonsense. Delta, well, we’ll just have to wait and see.