Well here’s an entertaining interaction between Emirates Airbus A380 pilots and air traffic controllers at New York Kennedy Airport (JFK). To be honest, I’ve heard JFK ATC be more unprofessional (admittedly that’s a high bar!), but still…
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JFK air traffic controllers & Emirates pilots argue
YouTube channel You can see ATC has air traffic control audio and a visualization of an interaction that happened at JFK on the early afternoon of December 9, 2025, as Emirates flight EK201 was taxiing to its gate after landing from Dubai (DXB). If you’re into this kind of stuff, I’d recommend watching the below video, though let me also summarize what makes this noteworthy.
The Emirates A380 was given several sets of instructions to taxi to the gate, and here’s the meat of the interaction:
- After being given initial taxi instructions, the Emirates pilot advised that their gate was occupied
- The tower controller advised the Emirates A380 to make the right turn on taxiway A, and hold short of taxiway D
- A short while later, while taxiing across an active runway, the tower controller advised the Emirates A380 to instead go straight ahead on taxiway A, and hold short of taxiway D
- The air traffic controller told the Emirates A380 not to stop due to traffic behind them, though it’s clear that the Emirates pilots were confused by the instructions, so slowed down
- The pilots were told to expedite their taxi, though since they were confused by the instructions, they sought clarification
- After taxiing for some time, the pilots seemingly forgot to switch to the ground frequency as was requested, so the tower controller told them to switch frequencies
- At this point, the Emirates pilot acknowledged the instructions, but said “by the way, sir, your instructions were not clear before, so just expediting was not a good idea, there is no need to be rude, just be more professional next time and more clear, thank you”
- The controller didn’t like being called out in this way, so tried to challenge the pilot on his claim, asking if the instructions were unclear, to which the Emirates pilot responded “yes, it was unclear, we are four pilots here, nobody understood you, and there is a native English speaker, so more professional and more clear, thank you very much”
- The air traffic controller wanted to keep arguing the point, and the Emirates pilot then simply responded by indicating they would switch frequencies
- Funny enough, clearly the tower controller told his ground controller buddy what was going on, so then the other air traffic controller wanted to continue arguing on frequency… oy
My take on this contentious JFK ATC interaction
Some (but not all) air traffic controllers at JFK are known for being among the least friendly and most unhelpful that you’ll find anywhere. Funny enough, I’d actually say that by JFK standards, the tower controller wasn’t that unprofessional, at least in terms of his tone. In particular, obviously the Emirates pilot spoke up due to cumulative frustration, rather than that final interaction, specifically.
For those who may not fully understand what’s going on here, what happened is that the air traffic controller wanted the A380 to taxi all the way around the airport. So initially the instruction was to turn right onto taxiway A, but presumably when the controller realized that the gate was occupied, he instead wanted the A380 to use taxiway A, but in the other direction, to keep the plane moving.
I can understand why the Emirates pilots might have been confused, since they weren’t necessarily expecting those instructions, and they assumed there was some other context they were missing. After all, it’s rare that you’re given continuous taxi instructions spanning such a distance.
But this is also where the problems originated:
- The pilots were clearly confused, so telling pilots to expedite their taxi when they clearly didn’t understand where they were supposed to go isn’t a great practice, especially since they were given these instructions while crossing a runway
- What I find most absurd is how combative both the tower and ground controller were with wanting to prove that they were right; they were like children, and didn’t want to let go of what happened until the pilots apologized, basically
- The issue with some air traffic controllers is that they have a plot of land that’s a few square miles that they spend half of their life controlling, and they fail to consider that maybe some pilots have never flown there, haven’t been there in months or years, etc.; they exclusively view things through the lens of whether it makes sense to them, rather than whether it might makes sense to someone who has never been to an airport before
So this just seems like a situation where a little clarification would’ve gone a long way. Like, “I’m going to taxi you all the way around the airport, so instead of turning right on taxiway A, proceed straight ahead…”

Bottom line
The pilots of an Emirates Airbus A380 and air traffic controllers at JFK got into it over instructions for taxiing. Clearly the Emirates pilots just didn’t understand the change in instructions, and the air traffic controller told them to hurry, despite their confusion.
The pilot asked the controller to be more professional, but that didn’t go over well, as he then didn’t want to drop that “feedback.” He was so obsessed with being proven right that he even had his buddy, the ground controller, continue the argument on his behalf, on another frequency.
One wonders, when these JFK controllers have a day off and hang out together, do they just go to a bar and discuss how stupid they think everyone in the world is, except for them?
What do you make of this Emirates A380 & JFK ATC interaction?
JFK controllers are JFK controllers. They operate some of the most complex airspace in the world and they are always so nice. To the pilots making a solid six figure flying widebodies man up and let it roll off.
Obsolete humans.
How many more accidents and casualties we have to endure before we remove the leading cause of accidents.
Your gramophone needle is stuck in that same old, same old groove Esk, yes?
This tribal mentality of handing off an argument from the tower to ground control will lead to nothing good.
Had the ground controller been professional, they would have tried to recover from the tower's previous issues (whose fault it was doesn't even matter at that point) with politeness and professionalism.
When there's a devastating incursion at JFK, the first place I would look would be at JFK ATC, to see if they were too...
This tribal mentality of handing off an argument from the tower to ground control will lead to nothing good.
Had the ground controller been professional, they would have tried to recover from the tower's previous issues (whose fault it was doesn't even matter at that point) with politeness and professionalism.
When there's a devastating incursion at JFK, the first place I would look would be at JFK ATC, to see if they were too busy chest-thumping and fighting to do their actual jobs. What a bunch of unprofessional holes.
And before anyone says it, being overworked is no excuse or reason to be utterly hostile to pilots.
Both parties are partly to blame. EK pilots could have asked for clarification earlier rather than just taxiing very slow and then giving unsolicited constructive criticism later to the ATC. If that gate was actually free then we wouldn't have hard all this nonsense.
DEI hires under Biden
The quantity of evidence you have that these controllers were hired under Biden equals the level of consideration to which any rational person ought to give your comment.
No dude. It was DEI hires enabled by Obama changes to ATC test to favor african American candidates:
From the lawsuit against the FAA filed by the Mountain States Legal Foundation:
…a candidate could be awarded 15 points, the highest possible for any question, if they indicated that their lowest grades in high school were in science…. In contrast, an applicant was awarded only 2 points if they had a pilot’s certificate and no points...
No dude. It was DEI hires enabled by Obama changes to ATC test to favor african American candidates:
From the lawsuit against the FAA filed by the Mountain States Legal Foundation:
…a candidate could be awarded 15 points, the highest possible for any question, if they indicated that their lowest grades in high school were in science…. In contrast, an applicant was awarded only 2 points if they had a pilot’s certificate and no points were awarded for having a Control Tower Operator rating or having Instrument Flight Rules experience…. In addition, one question on the Biographical Questionnaire awarded an applicant 10 points, the most available for that question, if the applicant answered s/he had not been employed in the prior three years. Another question awarded 4 or 8 points if the applicant had been unemployed five or more months in the prior three years. Statistics from the Department of Labor indicate that African Americans had the highest unemployment rate in 2010–2014.
I know controllers have a tough job, and I'm sure 99% of them are great people. But kudos to the Emirates crew for calling them out. We need so much more of this in aviation (like with FLIGHT ATTENDANTS) but it doesn't happen because people are afraid of the consequences. Well, the only way that behavior gets corrected is by calling it out. That should be normalized.
These tense exchanges with JFK ATC seem to happen often enough to raise concerns about that location's ATC leadership.