In recent years, we’ve seen airline pilots in the United States (particularly at the “big three” carriers, as well as at regional carriers) get huge pay increases, and they’re now very well compensated. As you’d expect, not everyone realizes that, though, and sometimes it’s funny to see the reactions that people have to this reality.
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American captain shares $458K+ compensation on Reddit
A Miami-based American Airlines Boeing 737 captain posted in the r/Salary subreddit, where… people seemingly just share their salaries with little context (the internet is a fascinating place, eh?). The pilot’s total year to date compensation has been $457,894.51, and the hourly pay is $360+ (this only applies to flight hours).
I’ve written in the past about how much airline pilots earn, and how their pay is structured. Generally speaking, pilots can fly up to 1,000 hours per year, so you can multiply their hourly pay by around 1,000, and then it only goes up from there, after adding in things like per diem pay, etc.
This pilot isn’t even maxed out in terms of earning potential. The pilot is at the top of the Boeing 737 captain pay scale (which currently maxes out at around $361 per hour). However:
- American pilots continue to get pay increases through 2027, under their current contract
- This pilot can get even higher pay if they move up to larger aircraft; for example, under the current pay scale, a Boeing 777 captain could earn up to $447 per hour, so that’s roughly 24% higher than the Boeing 737 captain pay
So a wide body captain can easily clear $500K per year. American, Delta, and United, all have virtually identical hourly pay, though they also have profit sharing. Since Delta is by far the most profitable, you can expect that Delta pilots are paid even better, and some very senior Delta captains are probably earning close to $600K, including profit sharing.

As you’d expect, the internet has quite some takes on this
I wasn’t surprised by these numbers, since I was familiar with pilot pay scales. However, understandably a lot of people weren’t expecting this. I think a lot of people have respect for pilots, but wouldn’t assume they’re that well compensated. The responses generally fall into one of two camps:
- “What on earth, they earn in a month what I earn into a year, how can they be paid that much?”
- “They have a lot of responsibility and it takes a lot of time before you get to these pay amounts, so they deserve it”
My opinion is somewhere in the middle. I respect pilots a lot, and ultimately their high pay is due to their very strong unions, plus our 1,500-hour rule for pilots, which greatly limits the pilot pipeline, and gives them a strong negotiating point.
I’m not a huge fan of trying to compare pay between people and assessing who “deserves” what, because all too often it’s not fair. Like, how much should a surgeon make, how much should a pilot make, and how much should a teacher make?
I will say this — I know a lot of management employees at airlines are rather frustrated about the massive pay raises that pilots have received, while they haven’t. At many airlines, your average captain is earning more than your average mid-level executive who is making some major decisions for the airline.
It’s also important to acknowledge that coming out of the pandemic was possibly the best time in history to be a pilot. Airlines were hiring like crazy, airline pilot pay increased massively, and the pathway from first officer to captain was also faster than ever before, due to the number of retirements.
Pilots have to invest quite a bit of time and money into their flight training (if they don’t go the military route, which requires time, but not money), both to get specific licenses and sufficient hours. Then they have to typically work at a regional airline for some amount of time, to build up hours. And then they can get a job at their “forever” airline, and work their way up the ranks there.
There’s no denying that the entire pathway has just been much faster than before in recent years. For example, you have pilots now who maybe spent a year or two at a regional airline, then a job at the legacy, and were then able to bid on a captain position within a year or two (though with limited seniority, and therefore, limited control over their schedule).
Also keep in mind that historically, airlines haven’t really been stable businesses. Pilots get these great contracts, but then in bankruptcy, everything is renegotiated. Of course we now have airline executives who claim their airlines will never be in bankruptcy again, their airlines will never lose money again, etc. I have a different take, but…

Bottom line
An American Airlines pilot shared their total compensation for the year on Reddit, which was around $458K. Unsurprisingly, many people don’t realize how well compensated pilots are nowadays, and this person isn’t even at the top of the pay scale yet.
This kind of pay tends to draw mixed reactions. One thing is for sure — it shows the strength of the pilot unions in the United States, that these kinds of contracts can be negotiated. It also shows the strength of the credit card market in the United States, that these contracts can be paid for. 😉
What do you make of this pilot compensation, and the internet’s response?
Lol at anyone who thinks $500k is a good salary.
A freaking data scientist at Pinterest makes $600k. Fully remote job, individual contributor (not management), leetcode easy interview questions. Then the actual job is SQL monkeying. Same thing at DoorDash and Meta and these places don’t even ask leetcode.
The average partner at Skadden makes $6 million and they are constantly being poached by Kirkland with offers of $10 million or more.
$500k was a...
Lol at anyone who thinks $500k is a good salary.
A freaking data scientist at Pinterest makes $600k. Fully remote job, individual contributor (not management), leetcode easy interview questions. Then the actual job is SQL monkeying. Same thing at DoorDash and Meta and these places don’t even ask leetcode.
The average partner at Skadden makes $6 million and they are constantly being poached by Kirkland with offers of $10 million or more.
$500k was a good salary in the 1990s, which is probably when a bunch of us in this comment section were born. It’s still a good salary in the middle of the country, which is probably where a bunch of us aren’t keen on traveling. If you like to live an upper middle class lifestyle in a major coastal metro and travel to places with Fine Hotels and Resorts you need at least $2 million a year.
If you think they don't deserve it, go ahead and learn that skill and get the job. With an increase in eligible pilots, salaries will come down. That's part of the reason the salary market is bearing this price.
If they "deserve" it or not, everyone can decide for themselves. What I do find odd is that pay is so much higher compared to other western countries, and that there is so much variance based on the type of aircraft flown. Becoming type rated on aircraft A does not take three times as much/long as aircraft B.
Why does my 777 counterpart make so much more than my 737 self?
So a bus driver should be paid a lot more or even a truck driver as they statistically kill more?
Good for them. Pay them $100M for all I care. When they are flying me and my love ones, I want the best.
Getta loada Mr. Moneybags ova’ere!
Compare this to an "average" NFL QB, including starters and back ups, who are making maybe $5 or $10 million per season without the same level of responsibility. One makes a bad decision and they throw a pick 6 interception, the other 100+ people die.
I see comments about the cost of pilot training. A Google search will reveal flying schools in Europe charging the equivalent of two months of that guy's salary for the full airline pilot qualification, it really isn't a lot in the grand scheme of things (and presumably there'll also be cheaper options in Mexico, Brazil, Asia etc).
I congratulate these pilots. They spend time every year doing recurring training in addition to being on the "road" for days at a time, many working holidays and weekends. The pressure is real. The sacrifice is real. Hats off to these guys. As stated, the airline business has a "rocky" past in terms of layoffs, etc...If I were young, I would seriously consider the profession.
If you think that is overheating then check it this guy Darren Byrd on YouTube.
He breaks down exactly how much he makes on each trip in detail. How many hours x hourly pay, per diem paid, extra paid for international flight, how much is contributed to his 401k, etc.
How he games the pilot scheduling system at American to make the most and work the least.
Given the amount of money they put out for flight training not to mention the time they're well worth the pay. Better than some C level imbecile that spends their day spouting the latest LinkedIn language. Pilots actually do something real.
Although not sure posting one's income on Reddit is a particularly wise move.
Pilots also go into ALOT of debt for flight school, and have NO idea what the environment will be coming out of it...they work for regionals for PENNIES for a LONG time, and then a limited amount make this amount. The COMPANY makes BILLIONS, and we have people fighting over if employees should get paid as much as they were able to negotiate, which ends up being nothing compared to UPPER management. It PROVES the value of unions.
"they work for regionals for PENNIES for a LONG time"
hasn't been true in years now
Expecting remuneration to be rational is like expecting airfares/award redemptions to be rational. So my "take" on this news is... it's a game and this is how they're currently doing. I'm definitely NOT envious.
I think this is one of the reasons why US carriers cannot provide quality service. Middle Eastern and Asian carriers who are considered top-notch pay their pilots less than a half of that. Then, they can invest more on the inflight service.
...Meanwhile in the US, some flight attendants are so underpaid that they are eligible for food stamps. How can they provide "service" when they're not paid any better than at waffle house?
I think this is one of the reasons why US carriers cannot provide quality service. Middle Eastern and Asian carriers who are considered top-notch pay their pilots less than a half of that. Then, they can invest more on the inflight service.
Meanwhile in the US, some flight attendants are so underpaid that they are eligible for food stamps. How can they provide "service" when they're not paid any better than at waffle house?
I don't mean US pilots should be paid like in the East(I know the cost of living is a lot higher in the US), but with this cost structure, I don't know how US carriers can enhance their service without raising the airfare significantly.
This is such a profoundly uneducated take. Youre mad about flight attendants but blame pilots? The reason why quality service doesn’t exist is because this the US. You should know the US folk think service is beneath them.
"...I don't know how US carriers can enhance their service without raising the airfare significantly."
A good starting point is paying senior management salaries that are inline with what their contributions actually are. Drop in the bucket? Sure. But it's a good starting point without having to gouge customers even more (the drip drip drip of fees) and/or paying even less to those who do the yeoman's work (FAs, cust service reps, etc. etc. etc.)....
"...I don't know how US carriers can enhance their service without raising the airfare significantly."
A good starting point is paying senior management salaries that are inline with what their contributions actually are. Drop in the bucket? Sure. But it's a good starting point without having to gouge customers even more (the drip drip drip of fees) and/or paying even less to those who do the yeoman's work (FAs, cust service reps, etc. etc. etc.). There are myriad ways to find money to enhance service; another easy win? Stop the stock buybacks.
There was a regular, recurting ad in the inflight magazines oh so many years ago - it said, "You don't get what you deserve - you get what you negotiate". Pilots are traditionally paid well, and the pilots at American (and Delta and United) have negotiated well.
Also - what you're able to command in pay in ANY profession has never been about "fairness" or "what you deserve". There are two general factors that come...
There was a regular, recurting ad in the inflight magazines oh so many years ago - it said, "You don't get what you deserve - you get what you negotiate". Pilots are traditionally paid well, and the pilots at American (and Delta and United) have negotiated well.
Also - what you're able to command in pay in ANY profession has never been about "fairness" or "what you deserve". There are two general factors that come into play:
1) The more difficult it is to replace you, the higher a salary you can command. As an HR rep, it is harder to find a qualified, experienced pilot and it takes about 3 months of training after hiring once you find one. Southwest received thousands of flight attendant applications in the one hour their window to apply was open, and training is 4 weeks. Ramp workers are trained in 1-2 weeks.
2) You make more $$$ in direct relationship with the amount of money your job produces. Pilots flying 777s can produce close to 500k in revenue for an airline in one flight (300 pax, $1,000 per ticket average, plus cargo). Pilot's equivalent of being a teacher - a flight instructor - produce maybe $300 in revenue per flight. Even thought flight instructors are " rare" and hard to replace, they only make about $30k - $40k per year.
This is why I keep to myself. Absolutely no need to share my personal business.
I like hiding under a rock :D
Well, good for that particular pilot, but they are an outlier. Most crews make far less, and the career paths can vary wildly. Thankfully, American and United and other airlines have robust unions fighting for all their members. Delta’s pilots union has been around since 1934! If only their flights attendants, baggage handlers, and maintenance technicians would organize, then, not only could they still enjoy profit-sharing, but also have greater job protections, which is especially...
Well, good for that particular pilot, but they are an outlier. Most crews make far less, and the career paths can vary wildly. Thankfully, American and United and other airlines have robust unions fighting for all their members. Delta’s pilots union has been around since 1934! If only their flights attendants, baggage handlers, and maintenance technicians would organize, then, not only could they still enjoy profit-sharing, but also have greater job protections, which is especially important during economic downturns, mergers, etc.
Where’s @Tim Dunn to tell us otherwise that FA’s should save their dues and get a gaming console or whatever the propaganda line was?
And what does an AA Eagle Pilot make - $25K per year? Your life if in their hands, just like the $500K per year pilots.
@ Randy -- They used to get paid peanuts, but not anymore. Now starting pay for a regional pilot is six figures:
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional/envoy_air