United Airlines has just announced two long haul routes out of Chicago — there’s a new route that makes sense, while there’s a route reinstatement that does surprise me.
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Ben, EWR-TLV has been flown daily throughout the pandemic. This is an increase to 10x/week.
EWR to TLV has been one of 4 TATL routes UA has flown pretty much regularly since the pandemic out of EWR (LHR, FRA, and AMS being the other 3). The ORD-TLV add is not really surprising, as UA can make it work and is the #1 US airline to Israel anyway. With EL AL temporarily shut down, this actually makes some sense. As for ORD-HKG resuming, on a 777-300ER, once a week, this is all about cargo, not pax.
United has been running lots of cargo-only HKG-ORD flights the last few months (as well as HKG-SFO)
UA is already running the ORD-HKG flights UA2865/2866 daily with a 77W and no pax, so they're just adding cabin crew and catering to accept pax once a week in September.
As far as SFO, they are already running SFO-HKG-SIN flights UA2871/2862 4 times per week with a 789 and no pax. With CX already offering HKG-SFO there's no market there for UA (nobody who is sane would fly UA over CX). EWR is too long and thin of a route to make any sense given the lack of demand.
Terrific news, but the TLV route is most likely opening due to the incentive from the Israeli government to open new routes that other airlines don't fly and the fact that LY wasn't able to launch it.
I'm surprised to see ORD-TLV coming on line before IAD-TLV is resumed. I think the United hub that has suffered the most during this pandemic and slow recovery has been IAD. Seems like United is back to thinking of EWR as its European gateway.
Great news about the Tel Aviv service!
Tel Aviv is a fabulous destination and tech hub.
seems like American continues to ceed Chicago to United.
Delta is also adding a extra service to Tel Aviv.
American hates to compete. Not only are they continuing to cede Chicago to United, but they're ceding New York and Los Angeles to Delta. About the only city where they're aggressively competing is Seattle, but that's only because they have Alaska teaming with them. I can't understand the thought process behind giving up on the three largest cities in the US.
I am confused - since most US citizens are not currently allowed to enter Israel why are they adding flights unless it is really for freight.
Freight definitely was the first thing that came to mind for HKG.
United must do well in the freight market out of Chicago as well to be able to invest in this hub and their network out of Chicago as my impression was always that it was a bit of a mediocre market for some of their major international destinations particularly in Asia. But it does seem they are investing more here than AA.
TLV, with there CORONA counts rising to the sky at the moment again and having all those US planes arriving with possible infected people, i think the country will soon stop all traffic again to TLV.
New Infections in the last days around 800 every day, compared to only 76 in mid June. That was when limited flights were only allowed to land in TLV.
High risk area and with all those people from high risk countries arriving (USA), don't think it's too wise to fly there now.
There is nothing wrong with the timing for ORD-HKG, since UA had similar timing for 25 years before they suspend this route , and even when CX start their own ORD-HKG, CX had similar timing as well
@Francis -- There are a number of people who are dual US-Israeli citizens, so there is some demand from travelers allowed to enter Israel
Maybe the new Hong Kong route is to do with a more broader contract with a company? For example, the contract might say that that United has to operate a minimum of one weekly flight between Chicago and Hong Kong; so while that particularly route might not be profitable to the Airline, the overall contract will be profitable.
For UA resuming flight between SFO/ORD and Hong Kong, it retreats for resident in US and Canada.
Exactly what is a "long haul business market" ? When only 20% of the seats are business class, the 80% of passengers in back are far from worthless. Even with daily service, business travel to the formerly great city of Hong Kong would drop off sharply.
you guys, UA is starting the ORD service since there is an incentive from the Israeli government to do so. I guess they decided there's no difference between the IAD and the ORD service, and the ORD service awards them with €250k, so they said why not do that. I guess they wanted to start the ORD service for a long time, but LY was about to too, and before UA, and due to the state LY is in now, it's obviously not happening. I believe there should be a cooling period from when one airline announcing it opens a new route before that announcement is "expired" for the incentive side of things. So if LY were to operate it first, and within a certain time frame, UA wouldn't get the incentive.