SWISS has today grounded their fleet of Airbus A220s (formerly known as the Bombardier C Series). This is due to issues with the Pratt & Whitney engines on these planes.
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The airlines are demanding so much more from these next generation power plants.
Rolls on the 787, GE on the 777X, Pratt on the neo and 220.
I’m still more comfortable with an engine out than a battery fire or a frame extended beyond its max...
Now I hope TPG will get off their knee’s with this damn plane. It’s like Delta pays them to mention it’s SuPeRiOr CoMfOrT in every post.
I flew from Brussels to Zurich a few months ago on the A220 on Swiss. Rebooked last minute when my original flight from Munich to Zurich (also on he A220) was canceled about 48 hrs before the flight. Swiss didn't give a reason but probably had something to do with this. Very nice plane though.
You could probably mention that all A220/Cseries operate with P&W engines only. There is no other choice.
Flying CDG-ZRH-ATH on October 20 and looking forward to EC 261/04.
LX and I are long term "friends" on the issue of EC 261 and they are very bad losers... but they infaillingly lose 🙂
So Delta doesn't proactively ground them yet. Either it's a no big deal and Swiss is overreacting or this is just like 737MAX, keep flying till FAA says no regardless of risk.
They return back into the European skies once they are checked - which for some aircraft has taken place this afternoon, but restricted with flying no higher than 28‘000 feet.
Even though you may believe that flying on one engine isn’t “dangerous,” I’d prefer the not dangerous state of having both engines working. Could this be a mini-MAX event in the making?
@eskimo, I am not thinking 737max is an overreacting issue actually, at least I am hesitating to fly on it after at least looking through some of the info why that things happened. From going on, I would try to avoid it no matter they fix this “software” issue or not.
There have been many flights that have had both engines shut down in flight (to restart)....reported on this site. SQ A330 a couple of years ago, a few UA 777s. DL too. I want to say 2 flights I know of did not restart and it was not "catastrophic". Air Canada's "Gimli Glider" incident. A 767 ran out of fuel. Landed safely, ZERO deaths. The plane flew for another 20-30 years.
Air Transat ran out of fuel over the Atlantic Ocean and was able to land 30 mins later in the Azores.
@Roberto i’ve flown this plane type and it is actually pretty comfortable. i don’t agree with a lot of TPG journalism practices BUT these planes are comfortable.
Ok I’m sorry, but TPG does (for once) have a point about these planes. Flew EWR-DTW in economy connecting to A359 to PEK. The A220 was more comfortable, the screen more responsive, the legroom was amazing (I’m 6’2). And this was after two long haul TK flights. I applaud delta for actually investing in comfort.
Those of us Canadian taxpayers who paid through the nose to get this aircraft flying only to see BBD give it to the Bus people always maintained that the C in C Series stood for crap. I was also never a fan of the GTF as having worked with turboprops one of the bigger maintenance problems was the gearbox. Yes engine failures should be capable of letting the aircraft continue flying but uncontained engine failures can hit all sorts of other things like the fuselage and the control runs. Note to Bus: you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
I think it is interesting that in the official tweet the plane was referred to as “the C Series” and not an Airbus A220.
I still prefer flying on a C Series than on a A32x for comfort and general feel on regional flights. I'm based in Geneva so I fly on those all the time and yes, Swiss still refers to it as C Series and not A220 on their website and all their communication. It was quite chaotic in GVA yesterday but I'm sure the aircrafts will be put back in service little by little over the coming days.
Just flew GVA-DUB on one, delighted they sorted it so quickly, beautiful plane to fly.
Talking to a few passengers beforehand, not one realised that the flight was so close to being cancelled.
Swiss got the first C Series with P&W engines. Maybe later series do not have same issues.
Seems like an isolated incident. However, there have been a number of concerns with the PW1500 GTF family.
@Lucky
Maybe it's time to update the situation. It's only fair to clear their name. (and you get to sneak another post in)