The Aviation Herald has the story of a strange incident that happened a few days ago, and it just seems like shouldn’t have happened…
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Besides the aircraft inspection, the airline might have wanted to position a fresh cockpit crew and deadhead the original cockpit back home.
Such a mishap is stressful on the unlucky crew and you would not want to burden them with operating home before debriefing them.
Better to debrief them and give them some challenging taxi exercises in the simulator before releasing them on the line.
There is no AFD.. this is very old language! Chart Supplement Guide!
Most airlines do not use those government charts but instead custom made Jeppessen charts or Navblue charts. There are usually notes in the company pages about unusable taxiways and this should be briefed ahead of time.
@Ben Can we use ‘United Kingdom’ and not England please!
I.e. it should read: Birmingham, United Kingdom (BHX)
I think the comment has incorrect math. The left turn from C to A is 110 degrees (which is a wide turn), while the left turn is 70 degrees (a sharp turn).
But Birmingham is in England, no? (Not in Scotland or Wales). And, yes, England is part of Great Britain, which is part of the United Kingdom…
So Ben was within his rights…
Why is this a problem? Birmingham is a city in the country of England, which is one of four constituent countries of the UK.
Are you also going to nitpick that Ben wrote "Melbourne, Florida" and not "Melbourne, United States?"
As a Brit, I see nothing wrong with Birmingham, England whatsoever, so I don't really understand your criticism. Both England and the UK are countries, saying England is just more specific and there is no ambiguity in writing it that way.
Actually England is a country but the UK is a nation. Nobody has English citizenship.
The UK competes in the Olympics but England competes in the soccer world cup, as does Scotland, Northern Ireland etc.
Interestingly (to me), TUI serves a lot of destinations from Orlando-Melbourne Airport. I believe they fly to 6 destinations in the UK, 3 of which I believe are operating this time of year. They have about 6x weekly flights from that airport this week.
I wonder if it is worth the cost savings for TUI to fly to Melbourne Airport (MLB) rather than Orlando International Airport (MCO). MLB is quite a hike for the tourists on those flights looking to go to the theme parks. And with the lack of public transportation in Central Florida, I imagine a lot of people would find it better to fly directly into MCO and take hotel shuttles to the theme park areas.
They'd just RTO'd, so they were coming from the runway, not the terminal.
I don't know how well Melbourne's taxiway are designed to accommodate widebody aircraft. I'm reminded of a ATC communication way back when that had an Iberia A340-600 crew telling JFK ground they were unable to take taxiway "C".
Where is the GoFundMe to buy software that will allow boxes to be drawn in color and not just gray like the rest of the airline map?
Non pilots will be surprised to learn that taxiing at a major airport is sometimes more challenging the flight itself.
“Actually England is a country but the UK is a nation. Nobody has English citizenship.”
In British English I think we’d say that the other way round: England is a nation (one of the four “home nations”), while the UK is a country.
Though now I think about it we might actually say the UK is a state, but I realise that would confuse many Americans (“state” as in “head of state” — ie, president, king, etc. Not Delaware or wherever.
Whatever. I’m not bothered by “Birmingham, England” either. Provided we never see “Edinburgh, England”…
It's British citizenship. And as an example when an athlete is competing, it's GBR after their name.
Open up a Chart Supplement and go to the Legend pages. At the top of each page it says Airport/Facility Directory Legend.
"I believe the controller is supposed to clear only what the aircraft can safely do." Could not be more wrong. Perhaps the blatherskite writing that drivel could stick to subjects he has nonzero knowledge of.
Pilots are responsible for complying with ATC clearances or advising if they cannot.
So in my 33 years as an ATC I was supposed to learn what every one of the literally thousands of aircraft I controlled could and could not do safely?
Tui is an all inclusive travel provider. They use Melbourne and have motor coaches that transport the vacationers to their pre-arranged housing near the parks.
Thomas Cook did the same thing from the UK to Orlando-Sanford.
It's not uncommon to see UK travelers walking up and down Vineland-Apopka to get to the liquor store outside Downtown Disney to pick up some booze since they don't have rental cars. Buses pick up the groups and shuttle them to the parks.
@The nice Paul
All German websites I have come across will insist on "Belfast, Grossbritannien" !